Re: Sacoolas case: Will it help Assange?
New Information: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-assange/extradition-hearing-for-wikileaks-assange-to-be-split-in-two-parts-idUSKBN1ZM1LN Extradition hearing for WikiLeaks' Assange to be split in two parts LONDON (Reuters) - The London hearing to decide whether WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange can be extradited to the United States to face charges including spying will be split in two, with the second half delayed until May, a judge ruled on Thursday. On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 12:28:15 AM PST, jim bell wrote: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7922781/America-REFUSES-hand-diplomats-wife-accused-killing-19-year-old-British-biker-Harry-Dun.html [Partial quote follows:] * Motorcyclist Harry Dunn, 19, was killed in a head-on collision with a car in August * Anne Sacoolas is believed to have been driving on the wrong side of the road * She was charged with causing death by dangerous driving but fled the country * US Secretary of State Pompeo turned down extradition request for Mrs Sacoolas By JOE MIDDLETON FOR MAILONLINE and SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE Harry Dunn's furious family have slammed the 'indefensible' US decision to block the deportation of Anne Sacoolas in a 'dark day for the special relationship' and demanded a meeting with Boris Johnson. America yesterday refused to hand over a diplomat's wife who is accused of killing a 19-year-old British biker in a crash near a US airbase. Mr Dunn was killed in a head-on collision with a car on August 27 last year near RAF Croughton, in Northamptonshire. Anne Sacoolas, 42, the wife of a US intelligence official, is believed to have been driving on the wrong side of the road and was charged with causing death by dangerous driving. But she claimed diplomatic immunity and flew to the US. [end of partial quote] Jim Bell's comments follow: The one silver lining to this cloud of a case (biker hit by diplomat's wife in UK, who fled to America claiming diplomatic immunity) is that it might make the British judges think twice about approving the extradiiton of Julian Assange to America. After some looking, mostly using google to find ' "Julian Assange" "extraterritoriality" ' , I haven't found anything credible justifying the extradition of Julian Assange, for any reason. If anything, quite the opposite. I'd sure like to read any filings in a British court on this subject. Maybe the filings haven't been made, yet. Jim Bell - Assange seemingly abandoned by organization of journalists: (and) Assange spied on while in London Embassy. https://www.justice-integrity.org/news-reports/1731-december-2019-news Extradition hearing will begin Feb 24, 2020 for a week, and will continue May 18, 2020 for three weeks. --- https://dcperiodical.com/all-posts/ "Julian Assange's Transfer Out of Solitary is Good, But it's Not Enough" Jim Bell
Re: Sacoolas case: Will it help Assange?
On 29/01/2020 08:27, jim bell wrote: The one silver lining to this cloud of a case (biker hit by diplomat's wife in UK, who fled to America claiming diplomatic immunity) is that it might make the British judges think twice about approving the extradiiton of Julian Assange to America. No, they won't care. This is for three reasons: (1) The two cases are genuinely not substantively linked in any way, (2) the whole Sacoolas thing is Boris posturing so as to be seen to be doing something (even though it's a pointless something), and (3) Assange's extradition is already effectively decided; of course he's going to be extradited. An additional point on the Sacoolas affair: As I understand it, she had legitimate and genuine diplomatic immunity in the UK. As such, there was never any possibility that she could be held accountable in any way or that she could ever be extradited from the USA. As the US State Department said, it would set a dangerous precedent to extradite her. Like it or not, they are right. Even when diplomats commit serious (alleged) crimes, they are in practice exempt from prosecution in the host country. That's the way it has always been and, all things considered, the way it should be. I.e. The benefits of this arrangement outweigh the drawbacks, overall. It beggared belief in my view that the UK actually formally requested extradition of Sacoolas: They knew it would be rejected. They would have rejected it themselves if the circumstances had been reversed. The only possible reason to go ahead with the extradition request was, as I mentioned above, for the Boris administration to be seen to be doing something (even though they knew it could not, would not, and should not amount to anything). That the British government then expressed surprise at the rejection is even more absurd. After some looking, mostly using google to find ' "Julian Assange" "extraterritoriality" ' , I haven't found anything credible justifying the extradition of Julian Assange, for any reason. Isn't there an extradition treaty between the UK and USA? As such, if he is accused of a serious crime in the USA then there seems to be little reason for the UK courts or government to prevent his extradition (although the USA's apparent presumption of extraterritoriality certainly grates). He did not have diplomatic immunity, as Sacoolas did.
Sacoolas case: Will it help Assange?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7922781/America-REFUSES-hand-diplomats-wife-accused-killing-19-year-old-British-biker-Harry-Dun.html [Partial quote follows:] * Motorcyclist Harry Dunn, 19, was killed in a head-on collision with a car in August * Anne Sacoolas is believed to have been driving on the wrong side of the road * She was charged with causing death by dangerous driving but fled the country * US Secretary of State Pompeo turned down extradition request for Mrs Sacoolas By JOE MIDDLETON FOR MAILONLINE and SEBASTIAN MURPHY-BATES FOR MAILONLINE Harry Dunn's furious family have slammed the 'indefensible' US decision to block the deportation of Anne Sacoolas in a 'dark day for the special relationship' and demanded a meeting with Boris Johnson. America yesterday refused to hand over a diplomat's wife who is accused of killing a 19-year-old British biker in a crash near a US airbase. Mr Dunn was killed in a head-on collision with a car on August 27 last year near RAF Croughton, in Northamptonshire. Anne Sacoolas, 42, the wife of a US intelligence official, is believed to have been driving on the wrong side of the road and was charged with causing death by dangerous driving. But she claimed diplomatic immunity and flew to the US. [end of partial quote] Jim Bell's comments follow: The one silver lining to this cloud of a case (biker hit by diplomat's wife in UK, who fled to America claiming diplomatic immunity) is that it might make the British judges think twice about approving the extradiiton of Julian Assange to America. After some looking, mostly using google to find ' "Julian Assange" "extraterritoriality" ' , I haven't found anything credible justifying the extradition of Julian Assange, for any reason. If anything, quite the opposite. I'd sure like to read any filings in a British court on this subject. Maybe the filings haven't been made, yet. Jim Bell - Assange seemingly abandoned by organization of journalists: (and) Assange spied on while in London Embassy. https://www.justice-integrity.org/news-reports/1731-december-2019-news Extradition hearing will begin Feb 24, 2020 for a week, and will continue May 18, 2020 for three weeks. --- https://dcperiodical.com/all-posts/ "Julian Assange's Transfer Out of Solitary is Good, But it's Not Enough" Jim Bell
