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Re: Echelon-like resources...

2002-10-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga

At 10:52 AM -0700 on 10/13/02, Bill Stewart wrote:


> (You may not remember, but there was a program from fortify.net
> that "fixed" 40-bit implementations of Netscape,
> and there was even a one-liner Javascript signature-line program
> that let you set Netscape to use 128 bits...

Not to mention the plaintext settings imbedded in the Netscape *executable*.

"...it took you long enough", said a Netscape cypherpunk at the time of its
discovery...

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RAH
Who saw them making the t-shirts, with pasted text from the file itself at
FC97, complete with "cypherpunks policy" on it...

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Re: was: Echelon-like resources..

2002-10-13 Thread Sunder
> Yes: The factory was bombed, but actual  
> deaths were one night watchman, "not tens 
> of thousands", and he asserted that the  
> Sudanese government are the good guys in 
> the civil war, and their opponents  
> terrorists. 

And how many of their citizens have or will die due to lack of those very
same pharamceuticals that the bombed factory can no longer produce? Or
suffer from disease due to the same?

Perhaps not tens of thousands, but more than just the single night
watchman, I'd say.

The point isn't how many deaths, but what collateral damage was done.  Not
just in the sense of civilian casualties, but also the damage inflicted on
those by the effect of not having said facility around.


Of course, for all you and I really know that could have been an Anthrax
factory cleverly disguised as as a pharmaceuticals factory, but we can put
up rethorical questions and answers such as these for the next millenia
and not get anywhere either.




Re: Echelon-like resources...

2002-10-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:

> And indeed, in a world where most messages are fairly weakly encrypted, 
> bursts of strongly-encrypted messages will stand out all the more and 
> possibly flag the need for other methods of investigation.

Doesn't figure: while it's easy to screen for high information entropy
(archives have a signature), telling weak encryption from strong is
nontrivial, unless it's conveniently labeled, and you're limiting the
attack to a tiny fraction of the entire traffic, not realtime.

And of course you can package 'strong' encryption into a 'weak' encryption 
envelope, so you will only know that 'strong' encryption has been used 
after you've broken the 'weak' envelope.




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Re: why bother signing? (was Re: What email encryption is actually in use?)

2002-10-13 Thread Julian Assange
> There have been episodes of spoofing on this list.  If client
> side encryption "just worked", and if what is considerably more
> difficult, checking the signatures "just worked", there would
> be no bother, hence it would be rational to sign

Not "just work" but "opt out" is what you are looking for. If there
are n posters to the list and m people signing, then their are only
n-m spoof targets. As m approaches n, the number of forgeries
rapidly approaches zero as there is no one left worth spoofing who
can be spoofed. But as each individuals chance of being spoofed
approaches zero, the benefit gained by signing also approaches
zero. Consequently unless there are additional costs to non-signing
above and beyond spoof protection there will always be a substantial
number of unsigned messages.

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On topic!

2002-10-13 Thread Ryan Sorensen
Talking to someone who was at the legendary cypherpunks anniversary bbq.
He brought up the fact that someone there was talking about "private
hedonistic cells" (any errors are mine, not his, and whoever talked
about this, if they have any more thoughts on the matter, please feel
free to email me.)

Brought this to mind.

Identity Based Encryption schemes. Fairly unworkable on the global scale
for a number of reasons. Shrink the space. Say a small group. Split the
secret for the key issuer, probably using a k-of-n scheme, where any new
member needs k people to give k pieces of the new secret key to the new
member. Transparent encryption to group members.

Use broadcast encryption things for mail to group members, or subsets
thereof.

Open problems: Can you have an easily extensible k-of-n scheme? Or even
an n-of-n? Key problem here being the fact that the former scheme is
still valid, just ignore the fact that there's a new member.

k would obviously be configurable based on group policies, number needed
to instantiate a new member, and all that good stuff.

What else can you do with a formulation like this? What else would be
-useful- given a formulation like this? Proofs of membership to the
outside? To other group members? Anonymity inside the group? Conditional
anonymity subject to open by k (not necessarily the same k as before)
members?

Homogoneous front to the outside world? Internal cash? Group-generated
random schemes? Mental poker put to some purpose?

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