Holmes

2005-10-04 Thread Aviram Jenik
On my system, Holmes just displays a list of files that matched the query. 
There is no title, date, or hit indication - just a list of file names with 
full paths. Best works nicely, so I imagine it's not a dependency problem. Am 
I missing something?

- Aviram
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Re: Holmes

2005-10-04 Thread Joel Mandell
Do we have to say that the holmes tool is under development :)

 On my system, Holmes just displays a list of files that matched the query. 
 There is no title, date, or hit indication - just a list of file names with 
 full paths. Best works nicely, so I imagine it's not a dependency problem. Am 
 I missing something?
 
 - Aviram


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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Henry S. Thompson
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Built and installed new release.

Previous problem persists, minor change -- loops now w/o setting
BEAGLE_EXERCISE_THE_DOG:

Note that extended attributes _are_ supported on the (local) /disk/b
filesystem, although my home dir is on NFS.

/home/ht beagled --web-root /home/ht/.beagle/webroot/  --deny-backend mail 
- --deny-backend EvolutionDataServer  --debug --fg 
INFO: Starting Beagle Daemon (version 0.1.1)
DEBUG: Command Line:
/group/ltg/projects/lcontrib9/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --web-root
/home/ht/.beagle/webroot/ --deny-backend mail --deny-backend
EvolutionDataServer --debug --fg
WARN: Extended attributes are not supported on this filesystem.  Many
search backends will not be available
DEBUG: Starting main loop
DEBUG: Starting messaging server
DEBUG: Loading Beagle.Util.Conf+IndexingConfig from indexing.xml
DEBUG: Initializing index synchronization
DEBUG: Synchronizing... (target=Local)
DEBUG: Synchronized successfully in .16s
DEBUG: Starting QueryDriver
DEBUG: Found 0 types in EvolutionDataServer, Version=0.0.0.0,
Culture=neutral
DEBUG: Found index helper at
/group/ltg/projects/lcontrib9/lib/beagle/beagled-index-helper
INFO: KMail folders not found. Will keep trying 
inotify_init: Function not implemented
Inotify not supported!  You need a 2.6.13 kernel or later with
CONFIG_INOTIFY enabled.WARN: Could not initialize inotify
DEBUG: Starting FileSystemWatcher Backend
DEBUG: Found 11 types in BeagleDaemonLib, Version=1.4.3.3,
Culture=neutral
DEBUG: Found 0 user-configured static queryables
DEBUG: Adding root: /disk/b
DEBUG: Loaded 0 records from
/tmp/beagle-ht-a6be612b-04b8-4ce6-9a16-e00cdc761a40/Indexes/FileSystemIndex/FileAttributesStore.db
in 0.000s
DEBUG: Done starting FileSystemQueryable
INFO: Starting KMail backend
DEBUG: Starting Scheduler thread
DEBUG: KMail directories (local mail)
/home/ht/.kde/share/apps/kmail/dimap not found, will repoll.
INFO: This Computer Hostname: erasmus.inf.ed.ac.uk
DEBUG: Starting WebBackEnd
INFO: Starting WebServiceBackEnd
DEBUG: Global WebServicesAccess Enabled
DEBUG: Starting Internal Web Server
BeagleXsp
Listening on port: 
Listening on address: 0.0.0.0
Root directory: /amd/nfs/pegasus/disk/ptn051/ht/.beagle/webroot
DEBUG: BeagleXSP Applications list:
/:/home/ht/.beagle/webroot/,/beagle:/home/ht/.beagle/webroot//beagle,/beagle/local:/group/ltg/projects/lcontrib9,/beagle/gnome:/usr,/beagle/kde3:/usr,/beagle/img:/home/ht/.beagle/img
DEBUG: Daemon initialization finished after 2.18s
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
...
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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Jon Trowbridge
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:52 +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
 inotify_init: Function not implemented
 Inotify not supported!  You need a 2.6.13 kernel or later with
 CONFIG_INOTIFY enabled.WARN: Could not initialize inotify 

The looping that you have observed is probably not a bug.  When inotify
is not available, Beagle has to keep re-crawling the file system to look
for changes.  I suspect that is what is happening here.

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Henry S. Thompson
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Jon Trowbridge writes:

 The looping that you have observed is probably not a bug.  When inotify
 is not available, Beagle has to keep re-crawling the file system to look
 for changes.  I suspect that is what is happening here.

That's not unreasonable, of course, but it's not recursing, and so is
looping very fast!  That is, it's not actually indexing any files,
which are all in subdirectories. . .

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Tom von Schwerdtner
On 10/4/05, Jon Trowbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:36 +, Charlie Law wrote:
  Has the Beagle wiki site been hijacked? I get a page about Banshee
  music file sharing.

 www.beagle-project.org looks OK to me.  Is anyone else seeing this?

No, beaglewiki.org and beagle-project.org both look OK.

-Tom
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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread David Coeurjolly

Nope... this wiki history seems clean..

dav

Jon Trowbridge writes:
  On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:36 +, Charlie Law wrote:
   Has the Beagle wiki site been hijacked? I get a page about Banshee
   music file sharing.
  
  www.beagle-project.org looks OK to me.  Is anyone else seeing this?
  
  -J
  
  
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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Charlie Law
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:43:59 -0400
Jon Trowbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:36 +, Charlie Law wrote:
  Has the Beagle wiki site been hijacked? I get a page about Banshee
  music file sharing.
 
 www.beagle-project.org looks OK to me.  Is anyone else seeing this?
 
It must have been a local reroute of some kind. If I log on through a VPN, I 
get a good beagle page. When I log on to the site without the VPN, I get a page 
about Banshee file sharing. 

I'm on an unfamiliar network right now, so I suspect there's something strange. 
But it appears to be local, not general.
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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread D Bera
 That's not unreasonable, of course, but it's not recursing, and so is
 looping very fast!  That is, it's not actually indexing any files,
 which are all in subdirectories. . .

I also noticed similar behaviour - wait for some time - it takes a
while for the file system backend to find the subdirectories and
actually index the files in them.
On second thought, probably the poll time for non-inotify case
shouldnt be that low.

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Henry S. Thompson
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D Bera writes:

 That's not unreasonable, of course, but it's not recursing, and so is
 looping very fast!  That is, it's not actually indexing any files,
 which are all in subdirectories. . .

 I also noticed similar behaviour - wait for some time - it takes a
 while for the file system backend to find the subdirectories and
 actually index the files in them.
 On second thought, probably the poll time for non-inotify case
 shouldnt be that low.

So after about 1 hour, I got the following:

...
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'

Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: null key
Parameter name: key
in [0x000c7] System.Collections.Hashtable:Find (System.Object key)
in [0x2] (at
/tmp/scratch/BUILD/mono-1.1.8.3/mcs/class/corlib/System.Collections/Hashtable.cs:395)
System.Collections.Hashtable:Contains (System.Object key)
in 0x00231 Beagle.Util.Scheduler:Worker ()
in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void ()

Is this progress?

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Joe Shaw
Hi,

On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:36 +, Charlie Law wrote:
 Has the Beagle wiki site been hijacked? I get a page about Banshee music file 
 sharing.

The Beagle and Banshee wikis are hosted off the same machine.  This
might be vhost/caching issue on either the server or (since you
mentioned later that you're using a VPN) your client.  Try
shift-clicking refresh.

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Jon Trowbridge
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 19:11 +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
 Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: null key

That is fixed in 0.1.1.

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread D Bera
  That's not unreasonable, of course, but it's not recursing, and so is
  looping very fast!  That is, it's not actually indexing any files,
  which are all in subdirectories. . .
 
  I also noticed similar behaviour - wait for some time - it takes a
  while for the file system backend to find the subdirectories and
  actually index the files in them.
  On second thought, probably the poll time for non-inotify case
  shouldnt be that low.

 So after about 1 hour, I got the following:

 ...
 DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'
 DEBUG: Done crawling '/disk/b'

 Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: null key
 Parameter name: key
 in [0x000c7] System.Collections.Hashtable:Find (System.Object key)
 in [0x2] (at
 /tmp/scratch/BUILD/mono-1.1.8.3/mcs/class/corlib/System.Collections/Hashtable.cs:395)
 System.Collections.Hashtable:Contains (System.Object key)
 in 0x00231 Beagle.Util.Scheduler:Worker ()
 in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void ()

 Is this progress?

8-) Nops... its an error.
But I remember seeing some question (either in mailing list or irc)
about the exception above. I dont remember the problem or fix. Do you
have any objectionable files in the directory /disk/b ? Any ppt or doc
files ?
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Ideas to improve scoring

2005-10-04 Thread Kevin Kubasik
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Ok, I am getting more familiar with C# (as some of you know I am
hoping to become a more productive user) But these little quarks in
scoring have been nagging me, I have played with some simple fixes,
but none of them have worked very well. regardless, here it goes.

Ok, so if I run a query for Environmental, I would hope to turn up
something that might relate to the environment, the problem is, our
search term isn't broken down. I tried at first to create a simple set
of rules (like easy plurals, if a word ends in 's' run the query
without the 's' as well etc) but there's really nothing universal.
What about harnessing a pre-exisiting spelling lib to offer some of
this functionality? Again, not familiar on the specifics, but offer a
check box in best or beagle-settings that allows for 'fuzzy-searches'
which also query works within a certain lexiconal range.

Something to consider for Holmes (should be decide to integrate a
linking to some spelling lib/program such as gtk-spell or aspell or
ispell or whatever) would be a 'did you mean ' type prompt, I
think integration into best atm isn't worth the effort, but if were
thinking ground up, why not.

The issue at this point comes with scoring these parallel results,
since we can't live query multiple queries and then sort them on
arrival, we would have to query each word individually, and based on
is lexiconal difference from the original, adjust its scoring,. This
part would no doubt be the hardest, but an alpha implementation
probably wouldn't want to include it.

I dunno, the idea is rought, and I currently have been downed with the
flu, thus heavy doses of NyQuill have inspired this, if its completely
impractial/beyond the scope of this project, then so be it, otherwise,
lets discuss it and try to make a working model.

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Re: Ideas to improve scoring

2005-10-04 Thread Jon Trowbridge
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:06 -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
 Ok, so if I run a query for Environmental, I would hope to turn up
 something that might relate to the environment, the problem is, our
 search term isn't broken down. I tried at first to create a simple set
 of rules (like easy plurals, if a word ends in 's' run the query
 without the 's' as well etc) but there's really nothing universal.

This is called 'stemming', and is already implemented in Beagle.  We use
the Porter Stemmer provided by Lucene.  A description of the algorithm
is available at:
http://www.tartarus.org/~martin/PorterStemmer/

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Henry S. Thompson
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Jon Trowbridge writes:

 On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 19:11 +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
 Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: null key

 That is fixed in 0.1.1.

I'm using 0.1.1 :-(

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Re: Beagle 0.1.1

2005-10-04 Thread Henry S. Thompson
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D Bera writes:

 Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: null key
 Parameter name: key
 in [0x000c7] System.Collections.Hashtable:Find (System.Object key)
 in [0x2] (at
 /tmp/scratch/BUILD/mono-1.1.8.3/mcs/class/corlib/System.Collections/Hashtable.cs:395)
 System.Collections.Hashtable:Contains (System.Object key)
 in 0x00231 Beagle.Util.Scheduler:Worker ()
 in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void ()

 Is this progress?

 8-) Nops... its an error.
 But I remember seeing some question (either in mailing list or irc)
 about the exception above. I dont remember the problem or fix. Do you
 have any objectionable files in the directory /disk/b ? Any ppt or doc
 files ?

Probably - I wasn't aware Beagle was vulnerable in this way -- where
can I find out more about 'objectionable' files?

Thanks,

ht
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