Re: Moving to subversion?
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Joshua Hoblitt wrote: > Are you going to go ahead with the conversion? I'm eager to switch to SVK. Since no one said no, I do plan to, it's just a matter of tuits, which have been in amazingly short supply for a while. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
Hi Dave, Are you going to go ahead with the conversion? I'm eager to switch to SVK. Cheers, -J -- On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I'm getting fed up with the damn sourceforge CVS instability and slowness. > > What do people think of moving to Subversion, hosted either on my own box > (svn.urth.org) or maybe svn.perl.org if I can talk Ask and/or Robert into > it? > > I'd convert the existing CVS repo, and since we don't have any branches > (AFAIK), it should work fine (tags convert ok, IIRC). > > Subversion runs on Windows (and there's a binary installer), Linux, BSDs, > Solaris, and Mac OS X. > > Objections? Comments? > > > -dave > > /*=== > House Absolute Consulting > www.houseabsolute.com > ===*/ >
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:54:34AM +0100, David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 22, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: > > >I should have added that the emails include the diff. No. See example below. > As an attachment? That's what has distinguished activitymail over the > last two years or so. It's probably trivial to change. It's hardly rocket science. Tim. Author: timbo Date: Thu Apr 22 14:29:51 2004 New Revision: 291 Modified: dbd-oracle/trunk/dbdimp.c dbd-oracle/trunk/t/24implicit_utf8.t Log: Extend new unicode logic to Oracle versions below 9.2 (at least >= Oracle 9.0.1 works now) Modified: dbd-oracle/trunk/dbdimp.c == --- dbd-oracle/trunk/dbdimp.c (original) +++ dbd-oracle/trunk/dbdimp.c Thu Apr 22 14:29:51 2004 @@ -39,7 +39,6 @@
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Apr 22, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: I should have added that the emails include the diff. As an attachment? That's what has distinguished activitymail over the last two years or so. David
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Apr 22, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: It's well worth the move, IMO. Yeah, I think so, too. I'll check it out as soon as I have the tuits and Ask gives me the a-ok. Cheers, David
Re: Moving to subversion?
I should have added that the emails include the diff. Tim. On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 04:07:11PM +0100, David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 22, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: > > >I don't know what activitymail is, but I do know that svn.perl.org > >sends emails for each commit (to a mailing list that corresponds to the > >module being changed). > > That's what activitymail does, but it sends the diffs from the (CVS) > commits, too, optionally as an attachment. > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/activitymail/ > > Regards, > > David
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 22, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: > > > I don't know what activitymail is, but I do know that svn.perl.org > > sends emails for each commit (to a mailing list that corresponds to the > > module being changed). > > That's what activitymail does, but it sends the diffs from the (CVS) > commits, too, optionally as an attachment. The mailer.py script for subversion does send diffs. Adding an option to send them as an attachment shouldn't be too hard, since you'd just have to throw in a MIME boundary at the right point and tweak the header. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, David Wheeler wrote: > My only objection to svn is that activitymail doesn't work with it. > Perhaps someone could convince the maintainer of that program to find > the tuits to port it, eh? Um, yeah, that maintainer should! There are two scripts that come with Subversion for sending emails on commits. I've been using the python one (mailer.py), and it works well. But porting activitymail probably wouldn't be too hard, I'd think. > Otherwise, I'm thinking of moving my projects to svn, too, probably > after I attend the svn tutorial at OSCON this summer. It's well worth the move, IMO. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Apr 22, 2004, at 4:01 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: I don't know what activitymail is, but I do know that svn.perl.org sends emails for each commit (to a mailing list that corresponds to the module being changed). That's what activitymail does, but it sends the diffs from the (CVS) commits, too, optionally as an attachment. http://search.cpan.org/dist/activitymail/ Regards, David
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:39:17AM +0100, David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 22, 2004, at 5:45 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > >Objections? Comments? > > My only objection to svn is that activitymail doesn't work with it. > Perhaps someone could convince the maintainer of that program to find > the tuits to port it, eh? I don't know what activitymail is, but I do know that svn.perl.org sends emails for each commit (to a mailing list that corresponds to the module being changed). Tim.
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Apr 22, 2004, at 2:23 PM, John Peacock wrote: Rather than try and force activitymail to work with Subversion, it is probably more profitable to look at the existing scripts and improve them to correspond to what you expect the e-mail's to look like. Agreed, that's what I'll do when I find the tuits. Reading the source on existing CVS notification scripts was how I came up with activitymail in the first place. Cheers, David
Re: Moving to subversion?
David Wheeler wrote: My only objection to svn is that activitymail doesn't work with it. Perhaps someone could convince the maintainer of that program to find the tuits to port it, eh? I haven't used activitymail, but from a quick reading of the POD, it seems like a waste to try and port it to Subversion. One of the problems with CVS is that there is no true multifile commit (i.e. each file is committed independently). This means that programs like activitymail must reassemble the set of files which constitute a single commit. Subversion, on the other hand, does perform a multifile atomic commit, so it is much easier to have a post-commit hook reflect changes. There are at two post-commit e-mail scripts in the SVN distro, and I know that there are more floating out there on the list. Rather than try and force activitymail to work with Subversion, it is probably more profitable to look at the existing scripts and improve them to correspond to what you expect the e-mail's to look like. John -- John Peacock Director of Information Research and Technology Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group 4501 Forbes Boulevard Suite H Lanham, MD 20706 301-459-3366 x.5010 fax 301-429-5748
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Apr 22, 2004, at 5:45 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: Objections? Comments? My only objection to svn is that activitymail doesn't work with it. Perhaps someone could convince the maintainer of that program to find the tuits to port it, eh? Otherwise, I'm thinking of moving my projects to svn, too, probably after I attend the svn tutorial at OSCON this summer. Cheers, David
Re: Moving to subversion?
Just on a usability note, I'm in favor. I've been using svn on several in-house projects over the last year or so, with no complaints -- well, setting up the server end is somewhat involved, but once it's set up you rarely have to visit it again. The added functionality (proper handling of directories, renaming, etc) are beyond worth it. Oh, for the OS X question, here's my first hit on google: http://www.pycs.net/bbum/2004/3/16/ Cheers, Matt
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Daisuke Maki wrote: > Too bad we can't just get a free copy of Perforce. I really enjoyed it > at my previous work. We probably could, but I wouldn't use it. I prefer free software over propietary when given the choice, and Subversion works quite well. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
Hmmm, I haven't used Subversion before, but as long as there's something for OS X, it's fine... (And speaking of which: http://www.pycs.net/bbum/2004/3/16/). Too bad we can't just get a free copy of Perforce. I really enjoyed it at my previous work. Now I need to go read about svn. --d Dave Rolsky wrote: I'm getting fed up with the damn sourceforge CVS instability and slowness. What do people think of moving to Subversion, hosted either on my own box (svn.urth.org) or maybe svn.perl.org if I can talk Ask and/or Robert into it? I'd convert the existing CVS repo, and since we don't have any branches (AFAIK), it should work fine (tags convert ok, IIRC). Subversion runs on Windows (and there's a binary installer), Linux, BSDs, Solaris, and Mac OS X. Objections? Comments? -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Joshua Hoblitt wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Dave Rolsky wrote: > > > I'm getting fed up with the damn sourceforge CVS instability and slowness. > > But at least it's backed up occasionaly... > > > What do people think of moving to Subversion, hosted either on my own box > > (svn.urth.org) or maybe svn.perl.org if I can talk Ask and/or Robert into > > it? > > I'd say svn.perl.org would be my first choice (as long as one is doing > backups). I'm also willing to host the SVN tree. Well, I do backup the SVN repos on my server, but I'd like it to be on svn.perl.org too, just cause that's cooler ;) They're hosting DBI and DBD::Oracle currently, so I'm thinking it might be possible. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Moving to subversion?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I'm getting fed up with the damn sourceforge CVS instability and slowness. But at least it's backed up occasionaly... > What do people think of moving to Subversion, hosted either on my own box > (svn.urth.org) or maybe svn.perl.org if I can talk Ask and/or Robert into > it? I'd say svn.perl.org would be my first choice (as long as one is doing backups). I'm also willing to host the SVN tree. -J --
Moving to subversion?
I'm getting fed up with the damn sourceforge CVS instability and slowness. What do people think of moving to Subversion, hosted either on my own box (svn.urth.org) or maybe svn.perl.org if I can talk Ask and/or Robert into it? I'd convert the existing CVS repo, and since we don't have any branches (AFAIK), it should work fine (tags convert ok, IIRC). Subversion runs on Windows (and there's a binary installer), Linux, BSDs, Solaris, and Mac OS X. Objections? Comments? -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
