Re: amd64 and video card experiences?

2004-08-15 Thread Tom Vier
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:29:36AM +0200, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote:
> I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about
> hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series.

i have a 9200 and it works in 32bit mode, and i'm pretty sure in 64bits,
too. what doesn't work is 32bit drm + 64bit kernel.

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Re: amd64 and video card experiences?

2004-08-15 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:29:36AM +0200, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ever since I got close to the stage where I wanted to upgrade my Matrox
> P650 with a Sledgehammer (pun intended) I am looking for experiences by
> others with ATI or nVidia cards, especially with the OSS-drivers
> (especially since ATI has stil not delivered an AMD64-enabled
> Linux-driver).
> 
> Unfortunately posts about them are a bit rare it seems, especially for
> Debian.
> So I would like to hear some experiences from you people.
> 
> I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about
> hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series.

   I have an ATi Radeon 9600 Pro. It works (in the sense that I can
get X running acceptably). 2D works; 3D is unsupported. There are no
64-bit capable drivers for the 3D parts of the card for linux yet.
ATi are being completely uncommunicative on the subject, and I'm
starting to regret buying the card, after having been a happy ATi
customer for many years.

   Just my experience,
   Hugo.

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Re: Bug#260747: removing "--enable-final" allows successful compilation of arts-1.3.0

2004-08-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 03:39:10PM -0500, David Dumas wrote:
> I was referring to the rules for arts-1.3.0-1, specifically, lines 73-76:
> 
> # run configure with build tree $(objdir)
> cd $(objdir) && \
> CC=gcc-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 ../configure $(configkde) --enable-final \
> --with-alsa

So this really is a bug in arts.  arts should not be using
options that are marked experimental.


Kurt




Re: Bug#260747: removing "--enable-final" allows successful compilation of arts-1.3.0

2004-08-15 Thread David Dumas
I was referring to the rules for arts-1.3.0-1, specifically, lines 73-76:

# run configure with build tree $(objdir)
cd $(objdir) && \
CC=gcc-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 ../configure $(configkde) --enable-final \
--with-alsa

However, as you point out, gcc/g++ 3.3 is used to build the package by
default.  I removed the CC and CXX settings and rebuilt with the
default version on my system (3.4.1), and experienced the segfault in
mcopidl.

I then removed the suspicious "--enable-final" option and the package
compiled successfully with 3.4.1.  Thus in the end I replaced the
rules quoted above with:

# run configure with build tree $(objdir)
cd $(objdir) && \
../configure $(configkde) \
--with-alsa

-David

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:56:08 +0200, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the version you cite is not made by the gcc-3.4 package in unstable
> nor do I see that --enable-final is passed at configure time.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> David Dumas writes:
> > I experienced the segfault in mcopidl when compiling arts-1.3.0 with
> > gcc 3.4.1 under debian unstable (amd64).  I looked at debian/rules and
> > found that "--enable-final" is passed to configure; this option has
> > the following description in the configure usage message:
> >
> >   --enable-final  build size optimized apps (experimental - needs 
> > lots
> >   of memory)
> >
> > Why would the debian package optimize for size?  Anyway, removing this
> > option allowed a successful build, i.e. no segfault in mcopidl.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > $ gcc -v
> > Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux/3.4.1/specs
> > Configured with: ../src/configure -v
> > --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang
> > --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib
> > --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.4 --enable-shared
> > --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
> > --program-suffix=-3.4 --enable-__cxa_atexit
> > --enable-libstdcxx-allocator=mt --enable-clocale=gnu
> > --enable-libstdcxx-debug --disable-werror x86_64-linux
> > Thread model: posix
> > gcc version 3.4.1 (Debian 3.4.1-5.0.0.2.amd64)
> >




Re: Bug#260747: removing "--enable-final" allows successful compilation of arts-1.3.0

2004-08-15 Thread Matthias Klose
the version you cite is not made by the gcc-3.4 package in unstable
nor do I see that --enable-final is passed at configure time.

Matthias

David Dumas writes:
> I experienced the segfault in mcopidl when compiling arts-1.3.0 with
> gcc 3.4.1 under debian unstable (amd64).  I looked at debian/rules and
> found that "--enable-final" is passed to configure; this option has
> the following description in the configure usage message:
> 
>   --enable-final  build size optimized apps (experimental - needs lots
>   of memory)
> 
> Why would the debian package optimize for size?  Anyway, removing this
> option allowed a successful build, i.e. no segfault in mcopidl.
> 
> -David
> 
> $ gcc -v
> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux/3.4.1/specs
> Configured with: ../src/configure -v
> --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang
> --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib
> --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/3.4 --enable-shared
> --with-system-zlib --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
> --program-suffix=-3.4 --enable-__cxa_atexit
> --enable-libstdcxx-allocator=mt --enable-clocale=gnu
> --enable-libstdcxx-debug --disable-werror x86_64-linux
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 3.4.1 (Debian 3.4.1-5.0.0.2.amd64)
> 
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Re: 2.6.8 based installer?

2004-08-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:04:59AM +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Are any of the currently available installers based on 2.6.8? 

Not yet.  There currently isn't a kernel image with 2.6.8
available yet but work is in progress.

> (A better question would perhaps be "How can I find out if any of the 
> currently available installers are based on 2.6.8?" :)

In the debian-installer dir there is a stats file (stats.txt)
that's made each day with all udebs that are on the image
including the kernels.  It currently tells the last ones are
still with 2.6.7-5.


Kurt




Asus notebook

2004-08-15 Thread Vampir0 Ner0
Hi folks, first of all thanks for the work on Debian-amd64! It will take 
computing to another age!  ;-)
Now, let's begin: I always love new tech so I'd want to buy an Athlon 64 
notebook, exactly the *Asus L5846DFUH*. Is there anyone who just tried it?
I know that amd64 pool is nearly complete (or is at 100%?), so should I 
install virtually any package of the *main* area for this architecture? 
Should be better waiting a little and install the *gcc 3.4* versions? I 
don't mind installing Sarge, I can go on with *Sid*(amd64). Is the 
hardware support decent? *Nvidia drivers*? Is there any program for 
which I need 32bit libraries or can I install *pure64* with no fear? 
Thanks a lot

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2.6.8 based installer?

2004-08-15 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Hi
Are any of the currently available installers based on 2.6.8? 

(A better question would perhaps be "How can I find out if any of the 
currently available installers are based on 2.6.8?" :)

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amd64 and video card experiences?

2004-08-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
Hi,

Ever since I got close to the stage where I wanted to upgrade my Matrox
P650 with a Sledgehammer (pun intended) I am looking for experiences by
others with ATI or nVidia cards, especially with the OSS-drivers
(especially since ATI has stil not delivered an AMD64-enabled
Linux-driver).

Unfortunately posts about them are a bit rare it seems, especially for
Debian.
So I would like to hear some experiences from you people.

I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about
hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series.

thanx,
Thomas