Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:23:45PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > The more arches are built by the same person, the easier coordination is. > So your offer is very welcome. > > Note that you'll need to check out the kernel udeb package sources from > the *sarge branch* of the d-i SVN repo for the different arches as ABI > numbers have to be updated there. yes, np. I'll try to have these done by this weekend. > I could do i386, sparc and S/390 myself if needed, but only next week. > > I'm still not sure about the status of AMD64 in this update. It would be > nice if AMD64 could be brought back in line with the other arches with > r3. If the kernel updates cannot be released into the main archive for > AMD64, we'll have to skip that arch for d-i too. I don't think its very likely that amd64/sarge will be added to debian.org, but this is a good question for the amd64.debian.net maintainers. The next point release of sarge will have a kernel ABI change which will break net install flavors of d-i. We are preparing an updated d-i to go along with this release - does the amd64.debian.net project wish to follow suit? I have an interest (job-related) in seeing amd64.debian.net track sarge point releases, so if there is a desire but lack of resources, please let me know. -- dann frazier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The right tool ?
Hello dear maintainers, I have a little question: What is today the right tool, to handle the packages ? apt ? synaptic ? aptitude ? kpackage ? Which one is recommended and preferred as "state of the art" ? Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 06:15 pm, Francesco Pietra wrote: > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > > > Hi Matthew: > > > > > Thank you. However: > > > > > > > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > > > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > > > > > > > $man alias > > > > > No manual entry for alias > > > > > > > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > > > > > > > I think that should have been: > > > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > > > # make > > > > > > Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root > > > prompt #make > > > gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > > > make: gcc: Command not found > > > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > > > that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > > > > > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > > > > > > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > > > > currently installable for some reason on your system. > > > > > > Just to detail what errors: > > > #apt-get install gcc > > > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. > > > E: Broken packages. > > > > > > > What output/errors do you get from: > > > > apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > > > > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > > Reading.. > > > Building dependency tree... > > > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. > > > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is > > > only available from another source. > > > However the following packages replace it: > > > gcc-4.0-locales > > > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at > > > http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > > > > > My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with > > > only main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): > > > deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib > > > non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main > > > contrib non-free > > > > Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as > > etch has been moved to there > > > > something like > > ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > > Now tried: > #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list > deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no > update/upgrade occurs at all > > Then also tried: > #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list > deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no > update/upgrade occurs at all > > (installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from > debian.inode.at) > > TO ADD that with either 'au' or without in the sources.list, the result of > gcc trial install is the same as with debian.inode.at, i.e.: > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > Reading.. > Building dependency tree... > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This > may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only > available from another source. > However the following packages replace it: > gcc-4.0-locales > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:... > E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > francesco pietra > > ___ > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > > > > > thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice > > > > > > francesco pietra > > > > > > > Len Sorensen > > > > > > -- May as well try this # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" # export gcc # make -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with package verification
On 6/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, get the key 010908312D230C5F from a keyserver with gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F and import it with apt-key add. So use the following command: gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F sks.keyserver.penguin.de | apt-key add - Replace the keyserver with a more suitable server inside the U.S. And after that you shouldn't bother anymore with missing keys. Thanks for the advice but it seems that key isn't found. For example, velo# gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F keyserver.pgp.com | apt-key add gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory gpg: "keyserver.pgp.com" not a key ID: skipping gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 I tries a couple other keyservers with the same results. What else can I try? TIA, -a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > > Hi Matthew: > > > > Thank you. However: > > > > > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > > > > > $man alias > > > > No manual entry for alias > > > > > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > > > > > I think that should have been: > > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > > # make > > > > Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root > > prompt #make > > gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > > make: gcc: Command not found > > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > > that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > > > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > > > > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > > > currently installable for some reason on your system. > > > > Just to detail what errors: > > #apt-get install gcc > > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. > > E: Broken packages. > > > > > What output/errors do you get from: > > > apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > Reading.. > > Building dependency tree... > > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This > > may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only > > available from another source. > > However the following packages replace it: > > gcc-4.0-locales > > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at > > http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > > > My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only > > main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): > > deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib > > non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main > > contrib non-free > > Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as > etch has been moved to there > > something like > ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free Now tried: #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no update/upgrade occurs at all Then also tried: #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no update/upgrade occurs at all (installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from debian.inode.at) TO ADD that with either 'au' or without in the sources.list, the result of gcc trial install is the same as with debian.inode.at, i.e.: #apt-get install gcc-4.0 Reading.. Building dependency tree... Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. However the following packages replace it: gcc-4.0-locales W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. francesco pietra ___ > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > > > thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice > > > > francesco pietra > > > > > Len Sorensen > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > > Hi Matthew: > > > > Thank you. However: > > > > > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > > > > > $man alias > > > > No manual entry for alias > > > > > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > > > > > I think that should have been: > > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > > # make > > > > Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root > > prompt #make > > gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > > make: gcc: Command not found > > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > > that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > > > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > > > > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > > > currently installable for some reason on your system. > > > > Just to detail what errors: > > #apt-get install gcc > > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. > > E: Broken packages. > > > > > What output/errors do you get from: > > > apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > Reading.. > > Building dependency tree... > > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This > > may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only > > available from another source. > > However the following packages replace it: > > gcc-4.0-locales > > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at > > http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > > > My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only > > main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): > > deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib > > non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main > > contrib non-free > > Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as > etch has been moved to there > > something like > ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free Now tried: #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no update/upgrade occurs at all Then also tried: #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no update/upgrade occurs at all (installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from debian.inode.at) francesco pietra ___ > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > > > thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice > > > > francesco pietra > > > > > Len Sorensen > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 00:05, Matthias Julius wrote: > Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think that should have been: > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > # make > > What also might work (depending on Makefile): > > # CC=gcc-4.1 make # CC=gcc-4.1 make make: gcc: Command not found make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > > or > > # ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 /usr/local/bin/gcc > (if /usr/local/bin is in $PATH) > > > Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think that should have been: > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > # make What also might work (depending on Makefile): # CC=gcc-4.1 make or # ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 /usr/local/bin/gcc (if /usr/local/bin is in $PATH) Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
Paul Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man pvresize Ahh, this is new in testing. I didn't know that since I am running Sarge. And there is no pvresize. Thanks, Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > Hi Matthew: > > > Thank you. However: > > > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > > > $man alias > > > No manual entry for alias > > > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > > > I think that should have been: > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > # make > Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt > #make > gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > make: gcc: Command not found > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > > > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > > currently installable for some reason on your system. > > Just to detail what errors: > #apt-get install gcc > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. > E: Broken packages. > > > > What output/errors do you get from: > > apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > Reading.. > Building dependency tree... > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may > mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available > from another source. > However the following packages replace it: > gcc-4.0-locales > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:... > E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only > main > and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): > deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free > deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free That is not a valid source anymore. It isn't maintained. You can use: http://location/debian etch main contrib non-free or http://location/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free Only sarge is maintained on the old unofficial amd64 sites. etch and sid are no longer updated. You have to move to the official debian mirrors with /debian dir instead. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > > Hi Matthew: > > > Thank you. However: > > > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > > > $man alias > > > No manual entry for alias > > > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > > > I think that should have been: > > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > > # make > Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt > #make > gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > make: gcc: Command not found > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > > > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > > currently installable for some reason on your system. > > Just to detail what errors: > #apt-get install gcc > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. > E: Broken packages. > > > > What output/errors do you get from: > > apt-get install gcc-4.0 > > #apt-get install gcc-4.0 > Reading.. > Building dependency tree... > Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may > mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available > from another source. > However the following packages replace it: > gcc-4.0-locales > W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:... > E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. > > My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only > main > and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): > deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free > deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as etch has been moved to there something like ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free > > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > > thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice > > francesco pietra > > > Len Sorensen > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sarge3 kernel build & r3
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 21:32, dann frazier wrote: > I don't think its very likely that amd64/sarge will be added to > debian.org, I did not mean to imply that of course. > but this is a good question for the amd64.debian.net maintainers. The main reason we need to know is that the d-i source needs to be updated for the ABI change and so we need to know if this update should happen for AMD64 as well as for the other arches *before* we _upload_ it. Also, from a CD building point of view amd64 is the same as other arches, even if its packages reside on a different mirror. CDs for amd64 are normally built at the same time as other arches and it would be nice if they could follow the same timeline as the main archive. If need be, the _build_ of the new installer images and the build of CDs for AMD64 could be delayed, but preferably not. pgphnsLvVfH58.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Hi Matthew: > > Thank you. However: > > > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > -bash: alias: make: not found > > > > $man alias > > No manual entry for alias > > > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea > > I think that should have been: > # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" > # make Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt #make gcc - g -02 -c -o active.o active.c make: gcc: Command not found make: *** [active.o] Error 127 that is, as if the alis was not activated. > > Not sure make can use shell aliases though. > > So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not > currently installable for some reason on your system. Just to detail what errors: #apt-get install gcc gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable. E: Broken packages. > > What output/errors do you get from: > apt-get install gcc-4.0 #apt-get install gcc-4.0 Reading.. Building dependency tree... Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. However the following packages replace it: gcc-4.0-locales W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate. My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing): deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice francesco pietra > Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi Matthew: > Thank you. However: > > $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > -bash: alias: make: not found > > $man alias > No manual entry for alias > > I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea I think that should have been: # alias gcc="gcc-4.1" # make Not sure make can use shell aliases though. So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not currently installable for some reason on your system. What output/errors do you get from: apt-get install gcc-4.0 Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
> > I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to > > risk trying it. > > I would be willing to risk that (since I have a backup). I just would > like to know before whether and how LVM is supposed to deal with that. man pvresize Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
Hi Matthew: Thank you. However: $alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make -bash: alias: make: not found $man alias No manual entry for alias I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:20, Matthew Robinson wrote: > Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Hi Joe: > > Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc: > > > > #apt-get install gcc > > gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but is not installable > > E: Broken packages. > > > > francesco pietra > > > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote: > >> Francesco Pietra wrote: > >>> Hi Len: > >>> perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong > >>> green tea, because I am getting really confused: > >>> > >>> #dselect > >>> shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last > >>> * highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) > >>> > >>> In contrast (?) > >>> #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > >>> dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found > >>> > >>> but see below from a perusal of directories > >>> > >>> Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ > >>> swap, /home, /tmp > >>> > >>> /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 > >>> > >>> Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: > >>> $make > >>> gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > >>> make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > >>> > >>> thank you > >>> francesco pietra > >>> > >>> On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Why with amd64 debian etch > > > > $gcc -v > > $gcc --version > > are unrecognized and there is no > > $man gcc > > page? > > > > While > > #dselect > > reveals that both > > gcc-4.1 and make > > are installed from base installation. > > > > Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use > > of queries with respect to 32bit etch. > > Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the > current gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. > > # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > gcc: /usr/bin/gcc > > Len Sorensen > >> > >> "gcc" is a symbolic link, provided by the "gcc" package. Since you don't > >> have the "gcc" package, you have no "gcc". > >> > >> Either compile your app using "gcc-4.1" instead of "gcc", or install the > >> "gcc" package. > > How about alias: > > alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make > > or a symlink: > > ln -s `which gcc-4.1` /usr/local/bin/gcc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 03:41:33PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi Len: > perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, > because I am getting really confused: > > #dselect > shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * > highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) Does dselect show gcc (not gcc-4.1) as installed? Does 'dpkg -l gcc' say gcc is installed? Does 'apt-get install gcc' do anything? > In contrast (?) > #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found So you don't have a /usr/bin/gcc which probably means you don't have the gcc (no version) package installed. > but see below from a perusal of directories > > Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ > swap, /home, /tmp > > /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 > > Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: > $make > gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 Makes sense. If only gcc-4.1 is installed, then you only have /usr/bin/gcc-4.1, not /usr/bin/gcc since the gcc package provides that. As far as I can tell, gcc still depends on gcc-4.0 since the transition isn't done to gcc 4.1, so using gcc will currently use gcc-4.0.3 until it is transitioned and the gcc package updated to default to gcc-4.1. Here is the state of my machine right now: debian:~# dpkg -l gcc\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-=-=-== ii gcc 4.0.3-4 The GNU C compiler un gcc-2.95 (no description available) un gcc-3.2(no description available) ii gcc-3.3-base 3.3.6-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) un gcc-3.5(no description available) un gcc-3.5-base (no description available) ii gcc-4.0 4.0.3-3 The GNU C compiler ii gcc-4.0-base 4.0.3-3 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) un gcc-4.0-doc(no description available) un gcc-4.0-locales(no description available) ii gcc-4.1 4.1.1-2 The GNU C compiler ii gcc-4.1-base 4.1.1-2 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) un gcc-4.1-doc(no description available) un gcc-4.1-locales(no description available) un gcc-doc(no description available) So I have installed the packages: gcc gcc-3.3-base gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi Joe: Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc: #apt-get install gcc gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but is not installable E: Broken packages. francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote: Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi Len: perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, because I am getting really confused: #dselect shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) In contrast (?) #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found but see below from a perusal of directories Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ swap, /home, /tmp /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: $make gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c make: *** [active.o] Error 127 thank you francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Why with amd64 debian etch $gcc -v $gcc --version are unrecognized and there is no $man gcc page? While #dselect reveals that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed from base installation. Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of queries with respect to 32bit etch. Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc gcc: /usr/bin/gcc Len Sorensen "gcc" is a symbolic link, provided by the "gcc" package. Since you don't have the "gcc" package, you have no "gcc". Either compile your app using "gcc-4.1" instead of "gcc", or install the "gcc" package. How about alias: alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make or a symlink: ln -s `which gcc-4.1` /usr/local/bin/gcc
Re: gcc
Hi Joe: Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc: #apt-get install gcc gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (>=4.0.2-5) but is not installable E: Broken packages. francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote: > Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Hi Len: > > perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green > > tea, because I am getting really confused: > > > > #dselect > > shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * > > highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) > > > > In contrast (?) > > #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > > dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found > > > > but see below from a perusal of directories > > > > Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ > > swap, /home, /tmp > > > > /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 > > > > Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: > > $make > > gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c > > make: *** [active.o] Error 127 > > > > thank you > > francesco pietra > > > > On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > >>> Why with amd64 debian etch > >>> > >>> $gcc -v > >>> $gcc --version > >>> are unrecognized and there is no > >>> $man gcc > >>> page? > >>> > >>> While > >>> #dselect > >>> reveals that both > >>> gcc-4.1 and make > >>> are installed from base installation. > >>> > >>> Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of > >>> queries with respect to 32bit etch. > >> > >> Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current > >> gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. > >> > >> # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > >> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc > >> > >> Len Sorensen > > "gcc" is a symbolic link, provided by the "gcc" package. Since you don't > have the "gcc" package, you have no "gcc". > > Either compile your app using "gcc-4.1" instead of "gcc", or install the > "gcc" package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:58:24AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: >> That sounds very promising. I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk >> used as PV. > > Well I don't think I have tried that. I have tried moving all LVM data > to other drives, then removing the PV, resizing it, and readding the > larger PV, and then adding it back to LVM. Unfortunately my RAID5 is the only volume in my LVM. So it is not really possible here to move the date somewhere else. > > I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to > risk trying it. I would be willing to risk that (since I have a backup). I just would like to know before whether and how LVM is supposed to deal with that. I guess I should go back and RTFM. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi Len: perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, because I am getting really confused: #dselect shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) In contrast (?) #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found but see below from a perusal of directories Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ swap, /home, /tmp /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: $make gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c make: *** [active.o] Error 127 thank you francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Why with amd64 debian etch $gcc -v $gcc --version are unrecognized and there is no $man gcc page? While #dselect reveals that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed from base installation. Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of queries with respect to 32bit etch. Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc gcc: /usr/bin/gcc Len Sorensen "gcc" is a symbolic link, provided by the "gcc" package. Since you don't have the "gcc" package, you have no "gcc". Either compile your app using "gcc-4.1" instead of "gcc", or install the "gcc" package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
Hi Len: perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, because I am getting really confused: #dselect shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt) In contrast (?) #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found but see below from a perusal of directories Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ swap, /home, /tmp /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1 Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only: $make gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c make: *** [active.o] Error 127 thank you francesco pietra On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Why with amd64 debian etch > > > > $gcc -v > > $gcc --version > > are unrecognized and there is no > > $man gcc > > page? > > > > While > > #dselect > > reveals that both > > gcc-4.1 and make > > are installed from base installation. > > > > Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of > > queries with respect to 32bit etch. > > Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current > gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. > > # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > gcc: /usr/bin/gcc > > Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Why with amd64 debian etch > > $gcc -v > $gcc --version > are unrecognized and there is no > $man gcc > page? > > While > #dselect > reveals that both > gcc-4.1 and make > are installed from base installation. > > Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of > queries > with respect to 32bit etch. Is gcc installed? gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version. # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc gcc: /usr/bin/gcc Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcc
Why with amd64 debian etch $gcc -v $gcc --version are unrecognized and there is no $man gcc page? While #dselect reveals that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed from base installation. Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of queries with respect to 32bit etch. thank you francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:58:24AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > That sounds very promising. I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk > used as PV. Well I don't think I have tried that. I have tried moving all LVM data to other drives, then removing the PV, resizing it, and readding the larger PV, and then adding it back to LVM. I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to risk trying it. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n > disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem > transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the > underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes > you have to resize the FS yourself. That sounds very promising. I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk used as PV. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: k8-smp
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:12:33AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel > for > multi dual opteron. > uname -a reports: > Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP > > In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following: > > Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but > NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same > bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a > local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit > slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other > CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See > ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf > The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for > multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers > to "symmetric multiprocessor", see > http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html. They _are_ SMP. Every processor is identical and of the same speed. The fact memory access speed is not symetric doesn't mean the CPUs aren't. > Do smp specified on kernel and NUMA for the opteron characteristics fit > together? I can imagine that SMP specified on the kernel chosen simply refers > to the presence of more than one dual-opteron. Anyway, it is a bit confusing > because it might be seen in conflict with the NUMA characteristics of > opteron. SMP simply refers to more than one cpu thread/core/whatever executes code. Intel's hyper threading, dual core, multiple processors, all require SMP. > If it is a silly question, I beg pardon. Not silly. It is getting somewhat confusing. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:25:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n > disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem > transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the > underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes > you have to resize the FS yourself. Rearanging the underlying blocks is a major job, and if interrupted in the middle, leaves a huge mess (unless it cleverly maintains the state of the data somewhere). The filesystem part on top is trivial to deal with afterwards. On the other hand, moving from raid5 with n disks to raid6 with n+1 disks, ought to be easier, although still not trivial. Resizing raids is one of the few places a good hardware raid card seems to have an advantage. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with package verification
Hi, get the key 010908312D230C5F from a keyserver with gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F and import it with apt-key add. So use the following command: gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F sks.keyserver.penguin.de | apt-key add - Replace the keyserver with a more suitable server inside the U.S. And after that you shouldn't bother anymore with missing keys. Kind regards, Marko Kaiser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with package verification
Greetings,After changing my /etc/apt/sources.list to containdeb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-freeI am having problems with verifying packages: # apt-get updateGet:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B]Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseErr http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseGet:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing Release [35.4kB]Ign http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseHit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main PackagesHit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free PackagesFetched 35.6kB in 2s (15.8kB/s)Reading package lists... DoneW: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5FW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Also, if I attempt to run apt-setup, my selection are again mirror.espri.arizona.edu and debian.csail.mit.edu/. How can I get myself realigned again? TIA, -a
Re: k8-smp
Francesco Pietra wrote: After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel for multi dual opteron. uname -a reports: Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following: Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers to "symmetric multiprocessor", see http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html. It's called SMP for traditional reasons - don't worry, it's perfectly appropriate for NUMA systems like Itanium and Opteron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
k8-smp
After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel for multi dual opteron. uname -a reports: Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following: Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers to "symmetric multiprocessor", see http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html. Do smp specified on kernel and NUMA for the opteron characteristics fit together? I can imagine that SMP specified on the kernel chosen simply refers to the presence of more than one dual-opteron. Anyway, it is a bit confusing because it might be seen in conflict with the NUMA characteristics of opteron. If it is a silly question, I beg pardon. francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID5
Dan Serban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Recent kernels and mdadm have support for rebuilding a raid >> now. Better to use that where possible. >> >> MfG >> Goswin >> >> > > To say.. move from RAID1 to RAID6? I wasn't aware, seeing that the > number of devices changes, and the filesystem has to be modified. Cool > if true. I'll go rtfm. I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes you have to resize the FS yourself. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
