Re: Kernel Configuration Question

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Crilly
On 12/22/06 12:10:41PM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote:
 
 I hate to answer my own posting but it belatedly has occurred to me that 
 perhaps it's not possible to mount a root partition using LVM without an 
 initrd.img. I've booted without an initrd.img before  I've used LVM before, 
 but not with the root partition as part of the logical volumes. Yes, no, 
 maybe?
 

That's pretty much it, you need to run the LVM tools (vgchange I think) to
scan for and setup the logical volumes. There is no code in the kernel to
do that for you so you have to use an initramfs image if your root is on
LVM. But why go through all of that trouble to not use one? The only burden
it puts on you is to run 'update-initramfs -u -k kernel-version' on of
the off chance that you change something that also needs to go in the image,
normal updates to things like LVM tools, udev, etc should update it for you.

Jim.


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Re: Kernel Configuration Question

2006-12-23 Thread Mike Reinehr
On Saturday 23 December 2006 09:35, Jim Crilly wrote:
 On 12/22/06 12:10:41PM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote:
  I hate to answer my own posting but it belatedly has occurred to me that
  perhaps it's not possible to mount a root partition using LVM without an
  initrd.img. I've booted without an initrd.img before  I've used LVM
  before, but not with the root partition as part of the logical volumes.
  Yes, no, maybe?

 That's pretty much it, you need to run the LVM tools (vgchange I think) to
 scan for and setup the logical volumes. There is no code in the kernel to
 do that for you so you have to use an initramfs image if your root is on
 LVM. But why go through all of that trouble to not use one? The only burden
 it puts on you is to run 'update-initramfs -u -k kernel-version' on of
 the off chance that you change something that also needs to go in the
 image, normal updates to things like LVM tools, udev, etc should update it
 for you.

 Jim.

Thanks for confirming this. I think I may have read something about this last 
year when I first researched LVM but then forgot.

As for not using an initrd.img, long ago I became a confirmed follower of the 
KISS theory of operations (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and was just trying to 
pare my kernel of any unnecessary pieces. But, as you say, it's not that much 
trouble to maintain an initrd.img.

Cheers!

cmr

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Re: Kernel Configuration Question

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Crilly
On 12/23/06 11:25:25AM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote:
 On Saturday 23 December 2006 09:35, Jim Crilly wrote:
  On 12/22/06 12:10:41PM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote:
   I hate to answer my own posting but it belatedly has occurred to me that
   perhaps it's not possible to mount a root partition using LVM without an
   initrd.img. I've booted without an initrd.img before  I've used LVM
   before, but not with the root partition as part of the logical volumes.
   Yes, no, maybe?
 
  That's pretty much it, you need to run the LVM tools (vgchange I think) to
  scan for and setup the logical volumes. There is no code in the kernel to
  do that for you so you have to use an initramfs image if your root is on
  LVM. But why go through all of that trouble to not use one? The only burden
  it puts on you is to run 'update-initramfs -u -k kernel-version' on of
  the off chance that you change something that also needs to go in the
  image, normal updates to things like LVM tools, udev, etc should update it
  for you.
 
  Jim.
 
 Thanks for confirming this. I think I may have read something about this last 
 year when I first researched LVM but then forgot.
 
 As for not using an initrd.img, long ago I became a confirmed follower of the 
 KISS theory of operations (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and was just trying to 
 pare my kernel of any unnecessary pieces. But, as you say, it's not that much 
 trouble to maintain an initrd.img.
 

Exactly, it's virtually 0 maintenance unless you're doing really odd, complex
things in your initramfs and even then once you set it up and put the
files under /etc/initramfs-tools/ it'll keep working. A decent example is
this, I setup this box with some dm-crypt block devices and by default the
generic aes module is used, to switch to aes_x86_64 all I had to do
was put the module name in /etc/modules, update my initramfs and reboot, if
they had been compiled in statically I would have been stuck recompiling my
kernel for that. And with the kernel people wanting to push more and more
device discovery and setup to userland it's going to be unavoidable at some
point anyway.

Jim.


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Mouse problem

2006-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

I use a usb-mouse. Last days are began strange problems with it. It becomes 
slow until stopping... and so I must change USB port, hoping that it restarts.

In /var/log/messages:

...
Dec 24 08:35:35 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using 
uhci_hcd and address 17
Dec 24 08:35:35 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Dec 24 08:35:35 localhost kernel: input: Fellowes Opti mouse3 as 
/class/input/input7
Dec 24 08:35:35 localhost kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Fellowes Opti 
mouse3] on usb-:00:10.0-2
Dec 24 08:49:04 localhost -- MARK --
Dec 24 08:57:05 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: reset low speed USB device using 
uhci_hcd and address 17
Dec 24 08:57:07 localhost last message repeated 3 times
Dec 24 08:57:08 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 17
Dec 24 08:57:08 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using 
uhci_hcd and address 18
Dec 24 08:57:09 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using 
uhci_hcd and address 19
Dec 24 08:57:09 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Dec 24 08:57:09 localhost kernel: input: Fellowes Opti mouse3 as 
/class/input/input8
Dec 24 08:57:09 localhost kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Fellowes Opti 
mouse3] on usb-:00:10.0-2
Dec 24 08:58:38 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 
lost sync at byte 4
Dec 24 08:58:38 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 
lost sync at byte 1
Dec 24 08:58:38 localhost kernel: psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 
- driver resynched.

Have you any idea?

Thanks,
Giulio


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