Re: Why does this happen ?
Am Dienstag 26 Juni 2007 schrieb Douglas Allan Tutty: On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 11:01:05AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Oh sorry, I did not prezise my question corretly. I know that both conflict. This is clear for me. What I want to know is, WHY such a conflict happens. Why can (in my case) nexuis not access to libcurl4 and the other ones stay access to libcurl3 ? This was my question, as IMO both libs seem independent for me. On the other hand I wondered, why apt does not inhibit the deinstallation of the other programs or the installation of libcurl 4. Is it, because the philosophy says, in linux everything is allowed to be done and controlled by root ? My question aimed less to the technical side, but to the philosophical side. You want to install libcurl4 which conflicts with your installed libcurl3. Lets assume that they both contain identially named files that would overwrite each other on installation. They may not be destined for eventual coexistance so that is not planned for in their namespace. So apt will remove libcurl3. However, your packages A, B, and C depend on libcurl3 (which is now removed). So apt will remove A, B, and C. Sounds like you're running unstable. Things like this should never happen in stable. The maintainers for A, B, and C can't update them to work with libcurl4 until its available. So the timeline looks like this: libcurl4 becomes available. New package D needs libcurl4. A, B, and C already exist and need libcurl3. Maintainers for A, B, and C, start to transition their packages to use the new libcurl4. Here's where you're at now. Eventually, A, B, C, and D will all depend on libcurl4 and libcurl3 will be obsolete. So philosophically, one must be philosophical about problems when running unstable. Doug. Hi Doug ! Thank you very much for this explanation. This is exactly, what I wanted to know. Yes, I am running unstable. Now I know, that this could be a normal behaviour, but mostly in unstable. Again: Thanks for the help. It explains a lot of things for me. Regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is (or will aptitude) be obsolete ?
Hi dear maintainers, I am running Debian-amd64 and Debian (32-bit) ,both unstable My question is: is aptitude going to be obsolete ? In 32-bit-system aptitude was already been deinstalled by apt-get dist-upgrade, because there is a library missing (libapt-pkg-libc6*). Is this going to be in debian-amd64, too ? IMO aptitude is an essential package. Or is this a bug in Debian 32-bit ? Regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is (or will aptitude) be obsolete ?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 10:15:14AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: I am running Debian-amd64 and Debian (32-bit) ,both unstable My question is: is aptitude going to be obsolete ? No. In 32-bit-system aptitude was already been deinstalled by apt-get dist-upgrade, because there is a library missing (libapt-pkg-libc6*). Is this going to be in debian-amd64, too ? Probably. IMO aptitude is an essential package. Technically, it isn't. But it certainly is very useful. Or is this a bug in Debian 32-bit ? Yes. A known one, and one soon to be (if not already is) fixed. -- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho, Jyväskylä http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
how-to compile 64 bit modules on 32 bit system with m-a ?
Hi all, I have 32 bit debian(testing) with 64 bit stock kernel (linux-image-2.6.18-4-amd64) (of course i have 64 bit processor) is there standard way to build 64 bit modules (nvidia, rt2500) with module-assistant ? i guess 64bit chroot may be solution, but any other ? -- Jamil Djadala [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: opteron 175: only one core recognized
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:55:43PM +0800, Tim Yang wrote: Well, from the AMD spec I think 1-way means you can only put 1 chip on the motherboard, but it is still dual-core. Certainly everything I can find says the 175 is a dual core 2.2GHz for one socket systems. Sounds like either the BIOS is too old to support dual core, or the BIOS has SMP or ACPI or something else required for multi processor stuff turned off. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD 64 X2
hello, I want to buy a new system with an AMD64 X2, as I want to try virtualization I need to know what kind of processor contains the Pacifica (now AMD-V) set of instructions. Does anybody have any information about that as the documents I have found are not crystal clear. Regards Storm66 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 X2
On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I want to buy a new system with an AMD64 X2, as I want to try virtualization I need to know what kind of processor contains the Pacifica (now AMD-V) set of instructions. Does anybody have any information about that as the documents I have found are not crystal clear. Try refer these, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd_64_x2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors#Athlon_64_X2 -- Regards, Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin Web: http://www.irwan.name/ Blog: http://blog.irwan.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 X2
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 06:28:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to buy a new system with an AMD64 X2, as I want to try virtualization I need to know what kind of processor contains the Pacifica (now AMD-V) set of instructions. Does anybody have any information about that as the documents I have found are not crystal clear. Any revision F or G series has Pacifica. That would be Windsor and Brisbane cores. Unfortunately you can't say 'Athlon 64 X2 3800+ has pacifica and 3700+ does not'. Identical spec'ed models exist for many revisions. I guess you should be able to tell from the packaging what revision the chip is somehow. It appears though that none of the mobile X2's have Pacifica, which I find somewhat surprising. Now at the same time, I would be very surprised if any computer store still has any revision E or older chips in stock anymore, so most likely it isn't really a problem, but you still want to make sure. So much simpler with the Core 2 chips. Their model numbers actually change when the features change it would seem. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: googleearth RAM Cache
Hi all, Concerning the google 'flight control' helicopter-steering mode which suddenly got 'disruptive'. After some tests, i'm still not clear how it works - but it's ok, now. What finally made a difference, was trimming the RAM cache down to 600M. Google default is about 400, for 2G Ram, and i pushed it up to 1024 in the beginning because i though that would enhance things. I think i may have to accept that 2G of slow 333Mhz DDR2memory (though running in dual mode) just is not fast enough for the google aircraft. At least for high speed low-level flight through the Grand Canyon, and investigatin glacial gorges and volvanos in the Sierra Nevada ;) The same applies for ADSL2000 with slow uplink -- and then the googleearth server may have some load at times, too. I always find it not easy to determine the exact RAM type just by the stickers on the bars. They say 'Corsair Value Select VS1GB667D2' which seem to be the same. On each 64M chip there are cryptic numbers like '64M8CFEG PS0900635'. So usually i trust BIOS wich in this case says 'DDRII667 (333MHz)'. I would be interested can i tell by dmidecode what kind of RAM is installed ? It looks like Handle 0x0007, DMI type 5, 24 bytes Memory Controller Information Error Detecting Method: 64-bit ECC Error Correcting Capabilities: None Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave Current Interleave: One-way Interleave Maximum Memory Module Size: 2048 MB Maximum Total Memory Size: 8192 MB Supported Speeds: 70 ns 60 ns Supported Memory Types: DIMM SDRAM Memory Module Voltage: 3.3 V Associated Memory Slots: 4 0x0008 0x0009 0x000A 0x000B Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities: None Handle 0x0008, DMI type 6, 12 bytes Memory Module Information Socket Designation: DIMM0 Bank Connections: 0 2 Current Speed: 5 ns Type: ECC DIMM Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Handle 0x0009, DMI type 6, 12 bytes Memory Module Information Socket Designation: DIMM1 Bank Connections: 0 2 Current Speed: 5 ns Type: ECC DIMM Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Error Status: OK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian on Intel Mac Pro
Hi list, I have a whole bunch of Mac Pros at work running MacOS X. It's a waste to have such exquisite hardware ran by that OS. After hitting my head against Darwin for months I decided to install Debian on them. I failed miserably with the Debian installer. After a couple of days of tries I finally found a workaround to the Debian installer mishaps, which I think are due to Apple firmware. I have prepared a Wiki on the matter, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro The trick was to make an installer with a mactel-linux patched kernel image. Nevertheless, it would be nice if Debian could tackle Mac Pros in future releases. Ricardo Yanez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 X2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I want to buy a new system with an AMD64 X2, as I want to try virtualization I need to know what kind of processor contains the Pacifica (now AMD-V) set of instructions. Does anybody have any information about that as the documents I have found are not crystal clear. Regards Storm66 If the system you want has been assembled, just get a LiveCD with a recent kernel, boot it up and look at /proc/cpuinfo. I just got (late March) an Athlon64 X2 4200+ at CompUsa and it does have the magic virtualization stuff (the svm in flags is the gimmick, IIRC). This is what mine looks like with a 2.6.21 kernel: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 75 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2210.046 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy bogomips: 4422.77 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
