Re: intel i3 processor
[snip] >> There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64. The >> sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are: >> >> - Adobe Flash > > Well at the moment 64bit flash is broken but it is possible to install > and use. Flash on linux is in general rather bad though. i run amd64 debian, i use flash for some online games, my solution, I installed ia32libs and installed seamonkey from their website into /usr/local/lib as a 32 bit app and installed the 32bit flash player. moral you can run 32 bit apps ontop of a 64 userland, with the right libraries. Alex [snip[ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilamzpxjof-ha7jtm8hfgwljijfw-p6ityi2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:14:17PM +0530, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > I am actually quiet happy with 32bit , but it looks like the future is > going to be 64bit. So if I build my comp this year , I will be using > it for the next 3 - 4 years or so . I am under a confusion whether to > go for 32bit or 64bit. Well personally I have 64bit on my laptop, my work desktop, and two out of three desktops at home (one is an old athlon so it wasn't an option). So I run 64bit if possible on the hardware. If proprietary binaries are important to you, then you might want 32bit instead. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100719162604.gc2...@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:07:47PM +0530, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > I don't use Flash and Skpype. I need emacs and Java OpenJDK 6 , these > are the two most important things . If they are already ported to > amd64 . Then its good news . Those work just fine on amd64. I use OpenJDK 6 all the time, and while I don't use emacs, I'm quite certain I'd have heard if it didn't work. According to [0], all Core i3 models support the amd64 architecture (which Intel calls Intel 64). Personally, if you don't need proprietary 32-bit programs, I certainly encourage you to go with amd64: it can provide small general speed improvements overall as well as very significant ones in some applications. 32-bit programs can be run very easily on an amd64 Debian system if they only use libraries installed by the ia32-libs* packages. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i3_microprocessors -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > If you want to use more than 3GB ram efficiently, or get the most out > of your system, use 64bit. For a bit less hassles, use 32bit. I am actually quiet happy with 32bit , but it looks like the future is going to be 64bit. So if I build my comp this year , I will be using it for the next 3 - 4 years or so . I am under a confusion whether to go for 32bit or 64bit. -- http://www.fsf.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ http://en.windows7sins.org/ R.Siddharth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikmetr_sixgxtsx-mheuy3-nm3gobebko4c7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:28:57AM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Siddharth Ravikumar > wrote: > > I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel > > i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be > > the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? . > > > > i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether > > 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact > > that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system . > > There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64. The > sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are: > > - Adobe Flash Well at the moment 64bit flash is broken but it is possible to install and use. Flash on linux is in general rather bad though. > - Possibly Skype > - Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources) > > If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should > certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit. > > If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit > - it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are > considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of > memory. If you want to use more than 3GB ram efficiently, or get the most out of your system, use 64bit. For a bit less hassles, use 32bit. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100719143343.gb2...@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Christopher Browne wrote: >> i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether >> 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact >> that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system . > > There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64. The > sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are: > > - Adobe Flash > - Possibly Skype > - Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources) > > If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should > certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit. > > If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit > - it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are > considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of > memory. I don't use Flash and Skpype. I need emacs and Java OpenJDK 6 , these are the two most important things . If they are already ported to amd64 . Then its good news . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinoyakrl67nybf-iy12stedfkwlyjpyr-qt2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: intel i3 processor
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote: > I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel > i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be > the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? . > > i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether > 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact > that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system . There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64. The sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are: - Adobe Flash - Possibly Skype - Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources) If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit. If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit - it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of memory. -- http://linuxfinances.info/info/linuxdistributions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikda-elii6ewqm4hrraty_eap8_hted4psbm...@mail.gmail.com
intel i3 processor
I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? . i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system . Thanks for your help ! -- http://www.fsf.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ http://en.windows7sins.org/ R.Siddharth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilfahxxvhsqosokssblsaeltpiaqku0zhrtm...@mail.gmail.com
