Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Pete

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has managed to install the Checkpoint 
SecureClient under AMD64 at all?


I just started a new job this week and need remote access for when I'm 
on call, and I have a VPN token and need to use the Checkpoint client.


Unfortunately, they only supply RedHat 7.2/7.3 software, and there's 
lots of warnings and errors when I alien the package.


I'm currently running Sid, but am considering going back to Sarge 
because I don't get the time to do all the updates any more.


However, a deciding factor is if I have to do a dual boot with XP so I 
can use remote access...


Any ideas greatly appreciated!

Pete


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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Pete

Clive Menzies wrote:


I can't help with your question re: Checkpoint but I'm in the same
postion of having to reboot into XP for VPN remote access.

I came up with the following possibilities and have had a cursory look
at vpnc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search vpn | grep client
vpnc - Cisco-compatible VPN client
webmin-pptp-client - PPTP client configuration module for webmin

I don't particularly want to install webmin just for this functionality.

So I too would welcome feedback from someone whose using a VPN client.

Regards

Clive

 


Thanks Clive, glad to see I'm not the only one in this position.

I have no intention of installing RedHat (I'd rather dual boot XP!), but 
I have seen somewhere on a Google search that FreeSwan will talk to 
Checkpoint, but as I know next to nothing about either at this stage, 
that sounds like a rather hard path to take, although I might be wrong.


Also, I thought FreeSwan was just for IPSec VPN's, but the company I'm 
working for now are talking PIN numbers and the VPN token, so it may not 
be that simple.


Pete


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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/06/05 21:22), Pete wrote:
 Clive Menzies wrote:
 
 I can't help with your question re: Checkpoint but I'm in the same
 postion of having to reboot into XP for VPN remote access.
 
 I came up with the following possibilities and have had a cursory look
 at vpnc:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search vpn | grep client
 vpnc - Cisco-compatible VPN client
 webmin-pptp-client - PPTP client configuration module for webmin
 

 Thanks Clive, glad to see I'm not the only one in this position.
 
 I have no intention of installing RedHat (I'd rather dual boot XP!), but 
 I have seen somewhere on a Google search that FreeSwan will talk to 
 Checkpoint, but as I know next to nothing about either at this stage, 
 that sounds like a rather hard path to take, although I might be wrong.
 
 Also, I thought FreeSwan was just for IPSec VPN's, but the company I'm 
 working for now are talking PIN numbers and the VPN token, so it may not 
 be that simple.

I just looked at openswan but on trying to install it got:
WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!

Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do.

  openswan ipsec-tools libgmp3 gawk host

Given the functionality involved, I'm a little hesitant to proceed -
just call me wimp ;)

It too is IPSec based but the router I connect to allows both IPSec and
PPTP.

Regards

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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:14:50PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
 I can't help with your question re: Checkpoint but I'm in the same
 postion of having to reboot into XP for VPN remote access.
 
 I came up with the following possibilities and have had a cursory look
 at vpnc:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search vpn | grep client
 vpnc - Cisco-compatible VPN client
 webmin-pptp-client - PPTP client configuration module for webmin
 
 I don't particularly want to install webmin just for this functionality.
 
 So I too would welcome feedback from someone whose using a VPN client.

Well you would not want pptp for anything, so the webmin module isn't
interesting.  PPTP is really that bad.  NT4 was really about the only
thing to ever try to promote it until the flaws in the encryption system
were shown to make it very insecure.

For IPsec you can use the openswan code along with the kernel modules
for IPsec, or you could use something like the cisco compatible one
(which is also IPsec based I believe).

Len Sorensen


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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:22:55PM +1000, Pete wrote:
 Thanks Clive, glad to see I'm not the only one in this position.
 
 I have no intention of installing RedHat (I'd rather dual boot XP!), but 
 I have seen somewhere on a Google search that FreeSwan will talk to 
 Checkpoint, but as I know next to nothing about either at this stage, 
 that sounds like a rather hard path to take, although I might be wrong.
 
 Also, I thought FreeSwan was just for IPSec VPN's, but the company I'm 
 working for now are talking PIN numbers and the VPN token, so it may not 
 be that simple.

It is quite likely openswan (decendany of freeswan) can talk to
checkpoint, but that doesn't mean it can necesaily deal with any
proprietary authentication options they added.  If people use just the
normal features, interoperability is usually simple.  Add weird
complicated non standard features, and life becomes much harder if you
want to use any other vendors stuff.

You could always install a 32bit chroot and try to use the redhat
package in there (perhaps running rpm to extract it (not install it) or
alien to convert to a tar file, would let you place it in /usr/local of
the chroot and use it from there).

Len Sorensen


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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Cameron Patrick
Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 01:20:05PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
  I just looked at openswan but on trying to install it got:
  WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!
 
 Never seen that message before.  Are you running some silly signature
 checking feature in apt or debsigs?  If so expect to see a lot of that
 until some day when all debian packages are actually signed.

Debian packages _are_ signed, and have been for a while.  The amd64
packages are signed with a different key to the standard Debian ones,
though, so maybe you need to tell apt where to get the signature from?

curl http://amd64.debian.net/archive.key | apt-key add -

(Untested but should do the trick.)

Cameron.



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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/06/05 08:24), Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 Well you would not want pptp for anything, so the webmin module isn't
 interesting.  PPTP is really that bad.  NT4 was really about the only
 thing to ever try to promote it until the flaws in the encryption system
 were shown to make it very insecure.
 
 For IPsec you can use the openswan code along with the kernel modules
 for IPsec, or you could use something like the cisco compatible one
 (which is also IPsec based I believe).
 
Thanks Len

I shall go and dig around the router docs and and ensure only IPSec
connections are allowed.  

Regards

Clive

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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Pete said:
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone has managed to install the Checkpoint 
 SecureClient under AMD64 at all?
 
 I just started a new job this week and need remote access for when I'm 
 on call, and I have a VPN token and need to use the Checkpoint client.
 
 Unfortunately, they only supply RedHat 7.2/7.3 software, and there's 
 lots of warnings and errors when I alien the package.
 
 I'm currently running Sid, but am considering going back to Sarge 
 because I don't get the time to do all the updates any more.
 
 However, a deciding factor is if I have to do a dual boot with XP so I 
 can use remote access...
 
 Any ideas greatly appreciated!

You really should only need the openswan package.  the 2.6 kernel has a
native ipsec stack, so you don't even have to compile extra modules.  I
have used openswan against a checkpoint router with success, although I
suppose it would depend on the configuration being used on the
checkpoint.
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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Pete

Lennart Sorensen wrote:


On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:22:55PM +1000, Pete wrote:
 


Thanks Clive, glad to see I'm not the only one in this position.

I have no intention of installing RedHat (I'd rather dual boot XP!), but 
I have seen somewhere on a Google search that FreeSwan will talk to 
Checkpoint, but as I know next to nothing about either at this stage, 
that sounds like a rather hard path to take, although I might be wrong.


Also, I thought FreeSwan was just for IPSec VPN's, but the company I'm 
working for now are talking PIN numbers and the VPN token, so it may not 
be that simple.
   



It is quite likely openswan (decendany of freeswan) can talk to
checkpoint, but that doesn't mean it can necesaily deal with any
proprietary authentication options they added.  If people use just the
normal features, interoperability is usually simple.  Add weird
complicated non standard features, and life becomes much harder if you
want to use any other vendors stuff.

You could always install a 32bit chroot and try to use the redhat
package in there (perhaps running rpm to extract it (not install it) or
alien to convert to a tar file, would let you place it in /usr/local of
the chroot and use it from there).

Len Sorensen
 

Thanks Len, I tried to install it in my ia32 chroot last night, but I 
was using my laptop from upstairs and XDMCP to my PC, so the display 
wasn't set in the chroot and I couldn't be bothered sorting that out at 
the time due to my current flu symptoms...


Anyway, I'll have another go at this while I'm sitting at my PC and see 
if that's a bit better.


I'll also see if I can find out today what the actual deal is in terms 
of if it's just plain IPSec or more than that.


Pete


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Re: Checkpoint Firewall Client on AMD64

2005-06-29 Thread Pete

Stephen Gran wrote:


This one time, at band camp, Pete said:
 


Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has managed to install the Checkpoint 
SecureClient under AMD64 at all?


I just started a new job this week and need remote access for when I'm 
on call, and I have a VPN token and need to use the Checkpoint client.


Unfortunately, they only supply RedHat 7.2/7.3 software, and there's 
lots of warnings and errors when I alien the package.


I'm currently running Sid, but am considering going back to Sarge 
because I don't get the time to do all the updates any more.


However, a deciding factor is if I have to do a dual boot with XP so I 
can use remote access...


Any ideas greatly appreciated!
   



You really should only need the openswan package.  the 2.6 kernel has a
native ipsec stack, so you don't even have to compile extra modules.  I
have used openswan against a checkpoint router with success, although I
suppose it would depend on the configuration being used on the
checkpoint.
 


Thanks Stephen, I'm glad to hear someone's done it before!

In the past, I've only used PPTP (ugly) VPN's and IPSec tunnels between 
SnapGears, so Checkpoint is all new to me, and I'll never claim to be an 
expert on IPSec in general either.


I'll see how I go and report back to the list when I know some more.

Pete


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