Re: Etch Upgrade Puzzle

2006-06-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 10:42:53AM -0400, Carl Brown wrote:
> I just switched my sources.list over to the new mirrors, using:
> 
> deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> 
> apt-get upgrade says:
> 
> 837 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 504 not upgraded.
> 
> Among the packages held back are:
> x-window-system-core, kde*, and gnome*.
> 
> So I think that it might be time for a dist-upgrade due to the excessive 
> number of held back packages.
> 
> But apt-get dist-upgrade says:
> 
> 1136 upgraded, 111 newly installed, 157 to remove and 153 not upgraded.
> 
> Among the packages to remove are:
> gnome-core kde-core kdebase x-window-system x-window-system-core 
> xfree86-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xserver-xorg
> 
> Obviously I don't want to do that!
> Any ideas about what could be causing this?

I don't think kde has made it into etch on amd64 yet.  The x.org 7
transition took a while, and now other things are trickling in.

etch on amd64 is far from complete package wise, but it is slowly
getting better every day.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Etch Upgrade Puzzle

2006-06-03 Thread Scott Thomas
On Saturday 03 June 2006 10:42 am, Carl Brown wrote:
> I just switched my sources.list over to the new mirrors, using:
>
> deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
>
> apt-get upgrade says:
>
> 837 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 504 not upgraded.
>
> Among the packages held back are:
> x-window-system-core, kde*, and gnome*.
>
> So I think that it might be time for a dist-upgrade due to the excessive
> number of held back packages.
>
> But apt-get dist-upgrade says:
>
> 1136 upgraded, 111 newly installed, 157 to remove and 153 not upgraded.
>
> Among the packages to remove are:
> gnome-core kde-core kdebase x-window-system x-window-system-core
> xfree86-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xserver-xorg
>
> Obviously I don't want to do that!
> Any ideas about what could be causing this?
>

I had the same issue - it is because gnome and kde are not yet complete in 
etch. Consequently, I did the etch install, then did 

aptitude -t stable install kde 

(should be the same principle for gnome), and ended up with a working (but 
older!) kde on an installation that is fundamentally etch. 

Beware, however, that this would mean you may have some issues with things 
like KOffice (older version), OpenOffice.org (only version I can get to work 
is experimental, and then only Writer, but supposedly there is a chroot 32bit 
version that works - I just found dead links), and AbiWord (crashes for me - 
and others have put this on the bug report - 100% of the time when you click 
the "Print" button).

Scott


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Re: Etch Upgrade Puzzle

2006-06-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 10:42:53AM -0400, Carl Brown wrote:
> I just switched my sources.list over to the new mirrors, using:
> 
> deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
> deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

[...]

amd64 testing is not complete yet in the official archive.
That may be the cause.

> So I think that it might be time for a dist-upgrade due to the excessive 
> number of held back packages.

You should really use a frontend that will follow recommendations etc,
such as aptitude or dselect.


Hamish
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Etch Upgrade Puzzle

2006-06-03 Thread Carl Brown
I just switched my sources.list over to the new mirrors, using:

deb ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

apt-get upgrade says:

837 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 504 not upgraded.

Among the packages held back are:
x-window-system-core, kde*, and gnome*.

So I think that it might be time for a dist-upgrade due to the excessive 
number of held back packages.

But apt-get dist-upgrade says:

1136 upgraded, 111 newly installed, 157 to remove and 153 not upgraded.

Among the packages to remove are:
gnome-core kde-core kdebase x-window-system x-window-system-core 
xfree86-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xserver-xorg

Obviously I don't want to do that!
Any ideas about what could be causing this?

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Carl Brown
Whitefield, NH USA


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