Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:54:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:16:54AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Unless the board is high end and has some other chip on board, then no. Intel does not make a hardware raid chip that I am aware of. The intel960 is used on some other companies raid cards, but I have never seen it on a motherboard. Certainly the ICH7 is not a hardware raid chip. The i960 is a processor from many years ago (not x86 compatible). That's right. Used in many postscript printers and a number of raid cards to do the work. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 12:00:50AM +, Tony Power wrote: I downloaded SID from ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/ but the installer says the CD has no modules and then the only chace is to go to the shell. Is http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/amd64/current/ the right place to download SID? I ask this because I can't find any SID net-installer. Can you, please, point me on the right direction? And can you, please, confirm if the RAID is, or not, done by hardware (not fake)? Unless the board is high end and has some other chip on board, then no. Intel does not make a hardware raid chip that I am aware of. The intel960 is used on some other companies raid cards, but I have never seen it on a motherboard. Certainly the ICH7 is not a hardware raid chip. The main chipset of the board is _never_ hardware raid capable. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:16:54AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Unless the board is high end and has some other chip on board, then no. Intel does not make a hardware raid chip that I am aware of. The intel960 is used on some other companies raid cards, but I have never seen it on a motherboard. Certainly the ICH7 is not a hardware raid chip. The i960 is a processor from many years ago (not x86 compatible). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel SE7230 + ICH7
Hi! Did anyone managed to install debian on a machine with: - Intel SE7230 chipset; - ICH7 I/O controller; - SATA RAID I (HW); If anyone did it, please let me know. My SATA drives aren't detected, so I can't install Debian. I don't want to use PATA. Thanks ;)
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 07:20:40PM +, Tony Power wrote: Did anyone managed to install debian on a machine with: - Intel SE7230 chipset; - ICH7 I/O controller; - SATA RAID I (HW); If anyone did it, please let me know. My SATA drives aren't detected, so I can't install Debian. I don't want to use PATA. Which installer? As in which architecture and version of debian, and if not Sarge, which date/version of the installer? Does that board have a hardware raid at all? Intel's ICH7 certainly doens't do hardware raid. It does do fakeraid, which is not supported nor recomended (For performance and reliability reasons). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
Thanks for your prompt answer! On 11/21/05, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 07:20:40PM +, Tony Power wrote: Did anyone managed to install debian on a machine with: - Intel SE7230 chipset; - ICH7 I/O controller; - SATA RAID I (HW); If anyone did it, please let me know. My SATA drives aren't detected, so I can't install Debian. I don't want to use PATA.Which installer?As in which architecture and version of debian, and ifnot Sarge, which date/version of the installer? I tried: Sarge / Etch Net-Install AMD64 / i386 / IA64 Sarge / Etch CD-Install AMD64 / i386 / IA64 All of them are recent, not more than a week. Of those, only IA64 doesn't boot. The others boot, but don't detect my drives (2x180 Sata drives that I want on RAID 1). I even tried SID i386, net-install (2005/11/19), but it didn't have any kernel modules on cd. Does that board have a hardware raid at all?Intel's ICH7 certainlydoens't do hardware raid.It does do fakeraid, which is not supported nor recomended (For performance and reliability reasons). That's bad news for me because a thought it has hardware raid. Well, there are drivers for Linux: http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7230NH1-e/index.htm Only they are for RedHat or Suse. Can you give me a suggestion? Thank you very much :) (antónio) Len Sorensen--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 07:43:49PM +, Tony Power wrote: I tried: Sarge / Etch Net-Install AMD64 / i386 / IA64 Sarge / Etch CD-Install AMD64 / i386 / IA64 All of them are recent, not more than a week. Of those, only IA64 doesn't boot. It shouldn't. IA64 is itanium. The others boot, but don't detect my drives (2x180 Sata drives that I want on RAID 1). I even tried SID i386, net-install (2005/11/19), but it didn't have any kernel modules on cd. Does that board have a hardware raid at all? Intel's ICH7 certainly doens't do hardware raid. It does do fakeraid, which is not supported nor recomended (For performance and reliability reasons). That's bad news for me because a thought it has hardware raid. Well, there are drivers for Linux: http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7230NH1-e/index.htm Only they are for RedHat or Suse. Can you give me a suggestion? Disable raid in the bios, and setup software raid in linux. It is a better solution. Hardware raid isn't cheap since it involves a dedicated cpu to do all the work for the raid (although for raid1 that isn't much at all). Faking it with the bios and the drivers isn't any better than doing it straight in software in linux, and at least then you can see what is happening and control it, and it is portable to other systems unlike the fakeraid setup which usually won't work with any other controller. The installer might even see the drives when the controller is back in it's native sata mode. Well at least the etch ones might, the sarge one might not. Make sure to boot the 2.6 installer kernel on sarge, not 2.4. No chance of 2.4 working on that new a system. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
Tony Power wrote: Hi! Did anyone managed to install debian on a machine with: - Intel SE7230 chipset; - ICH7 I/O controller; - SATA RAID I (HW); If anyone did it, please let me know. My SATA drives aren't detected, so I can't install Debian. I don't want to use PATA. I use a Intel Board with ICH7 with latest sid installer on amd64. And yes, first it didn't recognized the SATA HDs and the network controller. But if I used the netinstall CD with expert mode and went back and explicit tried to recognized the HD/network again and again, eth1 and both SATA appeared on screen. Seems like autodetect doesn't know these hardware, but drivers work well. Thanks ;) Cya Lars -- - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik WissensVisualisierung Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7
I downloaded SID from ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/ but the installer says the CD has no modules and then the only chace is to go to the shell. Is http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/amd64/current/ the right place to download SID? I ask this because I can't find any SID net-installer. Can you, please, point me on the right direction? And can you, please, confirm if the RAID is, or not, done by hardware (not fake)? Thank you (antónio)On 11/21/05, Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Power wrote: Hi! Did anyone managed to install debian on a machine with: - Intel SE7230 chipset; - ICH7 I/O controller; - SATA RAID I (HW); If anyone did it, please let me know. My SATA drives aren't detected, so I can't install Debian. I don't want to use PATA.I use a Intel Board with ICH7 with latest sid installer on amd64.And yes, first it didn't recognized the SATA HDs and the network controller. But if I used the netinstall CD with expert mode and went back andexplicit tried to recognized the HD/network again and again, eth1 andboth SATA appeared on screen.Seems like autodetect doesn't know these hardware, but drivers work well. Thanks ;)CyaLars---TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik WissensVisualisierungTel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03
