Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Matthews

I did have the chance to test a Tyan S2895 (www.k8we.com).

I tried Suse, Fedora, FreeBSD and Debian (all the Amd64 ports).

Debian performed the best of all on that mainboard. Though, I would have 
liked to put the OS through more testing on it.


I could use the NVIDIA chipset with Debian.

Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).


tim


Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:


On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 15:09 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 


On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:08:54PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
   


There seem to be two product lines available for quad dual core opterons
at this point, one based on the Iwill H4203 (MB+Chasis), and the other
on the Tyan S4882. Both are based on the AMD chipset. The Iwill MB has
only IDE controller on board, the Tyan has SATA or SCSI. The machine
will be used for compute-intensive tasks, server functions being not as
important. I would appreciate any comments on either, or comparisons.
Are there new MBs/systems in the works to be introduced in the near
future, before 2006?
 


When is AMD supposed to switch to the new socket?  I am wondering if it
makes sense to buy a new system before or after that switch.  I like
buying things when I know the socket will be around for a while (I have
an Asus A7V which was one of the first socket A boards out, and it is
early enough revision to have some stupidities, like the IDE activity
light only working for one of the ide controllers. :)
   



I have heard socket F is not till late 2006. There is an nvidia 8-way MB
+daughter. The MB may be used for quad dual (not sure), the DB could be
great for expansion. But apparently there is no kernel support for the
nvidia chipset, and indeed I have found no vendor selling it with Linux.

 


As for chipsets for quad systems, I don't know if there are any new ones
coming any time soon.  I have seen dual systems with nvidia, and I have
seen systems with AMD.  I think I read that serverworks might be making
an opteron chipset, but I don't know if that is true.

Len Sorensen
   



Elaine
 




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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Allan Wind
On 2005-08-23T22:48:28+0100, Tim Matthews wrote:
 Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
 it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).

Anything besides installation (drivers + bios flash)?


/Allan


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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 22:48 +0100, Tim Matthews wrote:
 I did have the chance to test a Tyan S2895 (www.k8we.com).
 
 I tried Suse, Fedora, FreeBSD and Debian (all the Amd64 ports).
 
 Debian performed the best of all on that mainboard. Though, I would have 
 liked to put the OS through more testing on it.

 I could use the NVIDIA chipset with Debian.
 
 Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
 it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).
 
Was any proprietary driver required for the S2895?

Was there no detectable difference in performance for cpu/memory/disk
tests between the 2 chipsets?

Thanks,

Elaine

 tim
 
 



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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Samat Jain

What was particularly wrong with it?

The SuperMicro H8DCE (which I sent a compatibilty report a few days ago 
to this list) is based on the same chipset, more or less. It's a dual 
northbridge (one for each CPU) nVidia 2200/2050 combination.


The only issues I've been having with it:
- not gotten temperature sensing to work with the nVidia SMBus system
- have to run the kernel with noapic (with Debian's kernels as well as 
my own 2.6.12)
- the gigabit NIC with the forcedeth driver won't go above 10MB/sec 
(even though the OSS driver supposedly supports gigabit operation).


Samat

Tim Matthews wrote:

Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).




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