Re: amd64 dualcore nad raid1

2006-03-24 Thread Naz Gassiep
I use that exact board with the same setup. The RAID1 on it is not true 
RAID, so I use the Linux Software RAID to set up two RAID1 arrays of 2 
drives each (i need two separate physical arrays for my purposes).


It works well, and performance is good. Debian Sarge with the 2.6 kernel 
detects all hardware nicely.  I recommend that setup.


- Naz

Francesco Pietra wrote:
i intend to setup a workstation for quantum mechanical calculations (organic 
chemistry) with a couple of amd64 dualcore 265 and a couple of STA hard disks 
360GB raid 1 (mirroring for security reasons).


Do you think that mainboard Tyan Thunder S2877ANDF x 2 Dual Opteron under 
debian testing/unstable provides adequate raid 1 support without going to 
expensive 3ware products? I plan to have 2GB ram, but that is not enough for 
the calculations and frequent access to disk occurs.


Remember that i am based in italy where the market is under rigid control by 
whom you can easily imagine so that it is not easy to get what one wants (for 
example main boards). i am happy when i meet a handler who follows my linux 
requests, most do not.


thanks for answering
Francesco Pietra




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Re: amd64 dualcore nad raid1

2006-03-24 Thread Naz Gassiep
Apologies, I use a slightly different board, the one on the Tyan 
Transport Server Chassis GT24. Its the same chipset though, so you can 
pretty safely assume Sarge will have the same support for it.


- Naz.

Naz Gassiep wrote:
I use that exact board with the same setup. The RAID1 on it is not true 
RAID, so I use the Linux Software RAID to set up two RAID1 arrays of 2 
drives each (i need two separate physical arrays for my purposes).


It works well, and performance is good. Debian Sarge with the 2.6 kernel 
detects all hardware nicely.  I recommend that setup.


- Naz

Francesco Pietra wrote:
i intend to setup a workstation for quantum mechanical calculations 
(organic chemistry) with a couple of amd64 dualcore 265 and a couple 
of STA hard disks 360GB raid 1 (mirroring for security reasons).


Do you think that mainboard Tyan Thunder S2877ANDF x 2 Dual Opteron 
under debian testing/unstable provides adequate raid 1 support without 
going to expensive 3ware products? I plan to have 2GB ram, but that is 
not enough for the calculations and frequent access to disk occurs.


Remember that i am based in italy where the market is under rigid 
control by whom you can easily imagine so that it is not easy to get 
what one wants (for example main boards). i am happy when i meet a 
handler who follows my linux requests, most do not.


thanks for answering
Francesco Pietra






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2006-03-23 Thread John Galatti

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:53:58AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:40:47PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 i intend to setup a workstation for quantum mechanical calculations 
 (organic
 chemistry) with a couple of amd64 dualcore 265 and a couple of STA hard 
 disks

 360GB raid 1 (mirroring for security reasons).

 Do you think that mainboard Tyan Thunder S2877ANDF x 2 Dual Opteron 
 under
 debian testing/unstable provides adequate raid 1 support without going 
 to
 expensive 3ware products? I plan to have 2GB ram, but that is not 
 enough for

 the calculations and frequent access to disk occurs.

 Remember that i am based in italy where the market is under rigid 
 control by
 whom you can easily imagine so that it is not easy to get what one 
 wants (for
 example main boards). i am happy when i meet a handler who follows my 
 linux

 requests, most do not.

raid1 is trivial to do with just the cpu.  Writing is simply writing the
same data to both drives (no calculations requried) and reqding is just
comparing the data (or just read one copy).  No need for hardware raid
for raid1 at all.

Len Sorensen


And from what I've heard, Linux's software raid is more reliable and
simple than most hardware RAIDs.

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Re: amd64 dualcore nad raid1

2006-03-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:40:47PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 i intend to setup a workstation for quantum mechanical calculations (organic 
 chemistry) with a couple of amd64 dualcore 265 and a couple of STA hard disks 
 360GB raid 1 (mirroring for security reasons).
 
 Do you think that mainboard Tyan Thunder S2877ANDF x 2 Dual Opteron under 
 debian testing/unstable provides adequate raid 1 support without going to 
 expensive 3ware products? I plan to have 2GB ram, but that is not enough for 
 the calculations and frequent access to disk occurs.
 
 Remember that i am based in italy where the market is under rigid control by 
 whom you can easily imagine so that it is not easy to get what one wants (for 
 example main boards). i am happy when i meet a handler who follows my linux 
 requests, most do not.

raid1 is trivial to do with just the cpu.  Writing is simply writing the
same data to both drives (no calculations requried) and reqding is just
comparing the data (or just read one copy).  No need for hardware raid
for raid1 at all.

Len Sorensen


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Re: amd64 dualcore nad raid1

2006-03-22 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:53:58AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 05:40:47PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  i intend to setup a workstation for quantum mechanical calculations 
  (organic 
  chemistry) with a couple of amd64 dualcore 265 and a couple of STA hard 
  disks 
  360GB raid 1 (mirroring for security reasons).
  
  Do you think that mainboard Tyan Thunder S2877ANDF x 2 Dual Opteron under 
  debian testing/unstable provides adequate raid 1 support without going to 
  expensive 3ware products? I plan to have 2GB ram, but that is not enough 
  for 
  the calculations and frequent access to disk occurs.
  
  Remember that i am based in italy where the market is under rigid control 
  by 
  whom you can easily imagine so that it is not easy to get what one wants 
  (for 
  example main boards). i am happy when i meet a handler who follows my linux 
  requests, most do not.
 
 raid1 is trivial to do with just the cpu.  Writing is simply writing the
 same data to both drives (no calculations requried) and reqding is just
 comparing the data (or just read one copy).  No need for hardware raid
 for raid1 at all.
 
 Len Sorensen

And from what I've heard, Linux's software raid is more reliable and 
simple than most hardware RAIDs.

-- hendrik


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Re: amd64 dualcore nad raid1

2006-03-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
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 And from what I've heard, Linux's software raid is more reliable and 
 simple than most hardware RAIDs.
 
 -- hendrik
 
 

All of my research on the topic certainly agrees with that assessment.
Basically, I have found:

- If you pay less than about US$1000 for your card, you are getting
fakeraid (that is, software RAID implemented in firmware)
- With disks being so cheap today, you are hard pressed to justify using
anything other than RAID1
- The software RAID in the kernel is much more uniform, in that you can
manage disparate hardware in exactly the same way

-Roberto

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