blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> I have a howto on how to install nvidia drivers the debian way (as well as 
> any other type of kernel module package) at 
> http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/

The nvidia driver wasn't istalled, as i stated, so there was nothing
for --uninstall to remove. Your howto helped, i'm replying from gnome.

"Well I would have expected the nv driver to work fine with the 6150
although I have never actualyl used on of those low end onboard
chips."
Gimme high-end money and i'll get a high-end offboard chip. ;-)
Actually, it wasn't nv causing the problem. I got the framebuffer
error again after switching to the nvidia driver:

(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
(EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or
errors above for possible reasons
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

I ran dpkg-reconfigure again, this time choosing No in the framebuffer
question (Use kernel framebuffer device interface?) and choosing the
nvidia driver instead of nv, and it worked. I didn't need to comment
"dri" and "glx" either. So, the issue was the framebuffer.

Thanks again.

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Re: blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
On 11/28/07, Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:24:38PM -0600, Jaime Ochoa Malag?n wrote:
> > you always could use vesa driver, this just work and let you work...
>
> Surprisingly many modern video cards don't have VESA support, so often
> you can't.

Good to know, just in case ;-)

This card could have a good vesa support because no seems to be a new model...

>
> > In etch (non-free) there is an OLD nvidia closed driver that should work for
> > you in etch...
>
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Re: blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:24:38PM -0600, Jaime Ochoa Malag?n wrote:
> you always could use vesa driver, this just work and let you work...

Surprisingly many modern video cards don't have VESA support, so often
you can't.

> In etch (non-free) there is an OLD nvidia closed driver that should work for
> you in etch...

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Re: blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
you always could use vesa driver, this just work and let you work...

In etch (non-free) there is an OLD nvidia closed driver that should work for
you in etch...

good luck

On 11/28/07, Nuno Magalhães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Greetings earthlings.
> There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it.
>
>
> I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1
> - worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu
> 5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64,
> complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X).
>
> So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed
> Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after "io scheduler
> cfq registered" and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to
> burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i
> dealt with,  added "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack"
> to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
>
> Which is better, ALSA or OSS?
>
> The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian "basic"
> install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a
> Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and
> the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
> (does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from
> the first graphics-related PID:
> 3018 ?00:00:00 gdm
> 3024 ?00:00:00 gdm
> 3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg
> 3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd
> 3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient
> 3062 ?00:00:00 atd
> 3069 ?00:00:00 cron
> 3104 tty1 00:00:00 login
> 3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty
> 3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter
> How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4.
>
> The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here:
>
> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelmenu=2
> Basically:
> - AMD Athlon 64 3500+
> - graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think
> - 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit)
> - phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG
>
> X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from
> their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it
> complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver
> 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out
> loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly
> enough issuing "gcc -v > file" or similar for xorg won't redirect but
> that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get
> it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers,
> even sweeter.
>
> Here are the usual suspects:
>
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf
>
> uname -a gives:
> Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64
> GNU/Linux
>
> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It
> detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600,
> 960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box
> is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X
> works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the
> window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its
> xconf:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf
> I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to
> remote an X session to the old box.
>
> After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log
> (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
> (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or
> errors above for possible reasons
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> Full log:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log
> Resulting xconf:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf
>
> ...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started.
> When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing
> the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box,
> still XFree86), but now...
>
>
> Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's
> probably a very easy and silly thing to solve.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Fica bem, porta-te mal.
> Be well, misbehave.
>
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Re: blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:44:09PM +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote:
> Greetings earthlings.
> There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it.
> 
> 
> I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1
> - worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu
> 5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64,
> complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X).
> 
> So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed
> Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after "io scheduler
> cfq registered" and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to
> burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i
> dealt with,  added "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack"
> to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
> 
> Which is better, ALSA or OSS?

ALSA

> The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian "basic"
> install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a
> Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and
> the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
> (does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from
> the first graphics-related PID:
>  3018 ?00:00:00 gdm
>  3024 ?00:00:00 gdm
>  3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg
>  3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd
>  3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient
>  3062 ?00:00:00 atd
>  3069 ?00:00:00 cron
>  3104 tty1 00:00:00 login
>  3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty
>  3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter
> How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4.
> 
> The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here:
> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelmenu=2
> Basically:
> - AMD Athlon 64 3500+
> - graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think
> - 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit)
> - phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG
> 
> X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from
> their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it
> complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver
> 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out
> loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly
> enough issuing "gcc -v > file" or similar for xorg won't redirect but
> that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get
> it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers,
> even sweeter.

Running 3rd party installers is always a very bad idea.  The nvidia
installer overwrites files that belong to dpkg, which will overwrite
them on a future upgrade with no notice and things will nicely break on
you.  I have a howto on how to install nvidia drivers the debian way (as
well as any other type of kernel module package) at
http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/

> Here are the usual suspects:
> 
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf
> 
> uname -a gives:
> Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 
> GNU/Linux
> 
> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It
> detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600,
> 960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box
> is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X
> works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the
> window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its
> xconf:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf
> I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to
> remote an X session to the old box.
> 
> After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log
> (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
> (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or
> errors above for possible reasons
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> Full log:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log
> Resulting xconf:
> http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf
> 
> ...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started.
> When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing
> the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box,
> still XFree86), but now...
> 
> 
> Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's
> probably a very easy and silly thing to solve.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Well I would have expected the nv driver to work fine with the 6150
although I have never actualyl used on of those low end onboard chips.
The nvidia driver on the other hand tends to work very well for me on
all the nvidia cards I have used, 

blank Xorg on Etch

2007-11-28 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Greetings earthlings.
There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it.


I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1
- worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu
5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64,
complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X).

So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed
Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after "io scheduler
cfq registered" and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to
burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i
dealt with,  added "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack"
to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base

Which is better, ALSA or OSS?

The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian "basic"
install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a
Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and
the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
(does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from
the first graphics-related PID:
 3018 ?00:00:00 gdm
 3024 ?00:00:00 gdm
 3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg
 3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd
 3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient
 3062 ?00:00:00 atd
 3069 ?00:00:00 cron
 3104 tty1 00:00:00 login
 3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty
 3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter
How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4.

The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here:
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=101&l3=296&l4=0&model=1138&modelmenu=2
Basically:
- AMD Athlon 64 3500+
- graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think
- 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit)
- phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG

X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from
their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it
complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver
4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out
loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly
enough issuing "gcc -v > file" or similar for xorg won't redirect but
that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get
it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers,
even sweeter.

Here are the usual suspects:

http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf

uname -a gives:
Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It
detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600,
960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box
is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X
works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the
window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its
xconf:
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf
I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to
remote an X session to the old box.

After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log
(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
(EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or
errors above for possible reasons
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
Full log:
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log
Resulting xconf:
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf

...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started.
When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing
the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box,
still XFree86), but now...


Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's
probably a very easy and silly thing to solve.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Fica bem, porta-te mal.
Be well, misbehave.


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