Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[hendrik]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:27:23AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> > I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found 
> > no 
> > way to get write-access as a normal user. 
> > 
> > What is the debian-way?
> 
> Why is this on debian-amd64?

Perhaps because the user is having the problem on a 64-bit debian 
system.  Perhaps he suspects he's having trouble because the 64 bits in 
his Linux might be incompatible in some subtle way with the 32 bit in 
Windows.

Perhaps he just doesn't know better.

Perhaps the quality of advice in this group is superior to that on 
debian-user.

-- hendrik


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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Karthik Ramgopal]

mount your partition as

mount -t ntfs-3g   -rw

if you want automount add a line to /etc/fstab as

 ntfs-3g  rw,user,auto   0 0

Users are generally not given mount with rw permissions for security
reasons.

Regards,
Karthik

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

> Hamish Moffatt  writes:
>
> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> >> I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i
> found no
> >> way to get write-access as a normal user.
> >>
> >> What is the debian-way?
>
> apt-get install ntfs-3g
>
> > Why is this on debian-amd64?
> >
> > Hamish
>
> Because it shouldn't.
>
> MfG
> Goswin
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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Hamish Moffatt  writes:

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
>> I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
>> way to get write-access as a normal user. 
>> 
>> What is the debian-way?

apt-get install ntfs-3g

> Why is this on debian-amd64?
>
> Hamish

Because it shouldn't.

MfG
 Goswin


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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:21:10PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
> way to get write-access as a normal user. 
> 
> What is the debian-way?

Why is this on debian-amd64?

Hamish
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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[hendrik]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 01:47:49AM +0700, Alexey Salmin wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM,   wrote:
> > A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
> > the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
> > understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
> > progessed since them.
> >
> > - hendrik
> >
> 
> They did actually. But developers were modifying the ntfs-3g driver, not ntfs.
> Since version 1.0 (February 21, 2007) it's stable and safe to use.

That recociles both versions of the story.  Thanks.

- hendrik


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RE: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Kushal Koolwal]

Not sure if your problem is resolved or not but I had a similar issue a while 
back and I was able to resolve like this:
http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/02/24/howto-mount-windows-ntfs-partition-as-read-write-in-debian-linux/

I think somebody already mentioned ntfs-3g.

Kushal Koolwal

I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/


> From: hans.ullr...@loop.de
> To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: mounting ntfs partitions?
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:32:56 +0200
>
>
>
> Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 schrieb hend...@topoi.pooq.com:
>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>
>>> Hans-J. Ullrich:
>
>>>> how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
>
>>>> I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i
>
>>>> found no way to get write-access as a normal user.
>
>>>
>
>>> The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
>
>>> is a feature constraint you have to live with.
>
>>
>
>> A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
>
>> the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
>
>> understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such). I thought that things had
>
>> progessed since them.
>
>>
>
>> - hendrik
>
>>
>
>>>> What is the debian-way?
>
>>>
>
>>> Use ntfs-3g.
>
>>>
>
>>> J.
>
>>> --
>
>>> I often play sports / do exercise.
>
>>> [Agree] [Disagree]
>
>>>
>
>
>
> Ah, yes, this does it explain. I know, that ntfs to set r-w is always 
> dangerous, and as far as I know, the kerne-module sets the ntfs-partition to 
> read-only.
>
>
>
> In my case, there are no important datas on the partition, I use it for 
> testing purposes or as a container to save files for a short time. I just 
> wondered, that users are not allowed to mount partitions r-w (usb, vfat, 
> external drives), but meanwhile I know more about debian and mount. I 
> discovered pmount.
>
>
>
> Thanks for help!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Alexey Salmin]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM,   wrote:
> A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
> the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
> understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
> progessed since them.
>
> - hendrik
>

They did actually. But developers were modifying the ntfs-3g driver, not ntfs.
Since version 1.0 (February 21, 2007) it's stable and safe to use.

Alexey


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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 schrieb hend...@topoi.pooq.com:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> > Hans-J. Ullrich:
> > > how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> > > I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i
> > > found no way to get write-access as a normal user.
> >
> > The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
> > is a feature constraint you have to live with.
>
> A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to
> the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully
> understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had
> progessed since them.
>
> - hendrik
>
> > > What is the debian-way?
> >
> > Use ntfs-3g.
> >
> > J.
> > --
> > I often play sports / do exercise.
> > [Agree]   [Disagree]
> >  

Ah, yes, this does it explain. I know, that ntfs to set r-w is always 
dangerous, and as far as I know, the kerne-module sets the ntfs-partition to 
read-only.

In my case, there are no important datas on the partition, I use it for 
testing purposes or as a container to save files for a short time. I just 
wondered, that users are not allowed to mount partitions r-w (usb, vfat, 
external drives), but meanwhile I know more about debian and mount. I 
discovered pmount.

Thanks for help!

Regards

Hans


 

Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[hendrik]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Hans-J. Ullrich:
> > 
> > how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> > I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found 
> > no 
> > way to get write-access as a normal user. 
> 
> The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
> is a feature constraint you have to live with.

A few years ago I heard that this constraint was to prevent damage to 
the NTFS file system, which the develoers were not sure they fully 
understood yet (Microsoft secrets and such).  I thought that things had 
progessed since them.

- hendrik

> 
> > What is the debian-way?
> 
> Use ntfs-3g.
> 
> J.
> -- 
> I often play sports / do exercise.
> [Agree]   [Disagree]
>  



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Re: mounting ntfs partitions?

[Jochen Schulz]

Hans-J. Ullrich:
> 
> how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
> I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
> way to get write-access as a normal user. 

The ntfs module in the kernel offers only very limited write access. It
is a feature constraint you have to live with.

> What is the debian-way?

Use ntfs-3g.

J.
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I often play sports / do exercise.
[Agree]   [Disagree]
 


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mounting ntfs partitions?

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Hi all,

how can I get read-write access as a normal user to a ntfs-partition?
I trioed ntfsmount and pmount (with configured pmount.allow), but i found no 
way to get write-access as a normal user. 

What is the debian-way?

Thanks for help.

Hans