Bug#87679: "netinst" image is available
/msg apt netinst? [netinst] ftp://ftp.ct2600.org/pub/debian/install/ . It's a 32M bootable ISO which installs the base Debian system. During the 'apt' configuration phase, it will tell you that you don't have a valid CD. Ignore that, then give it regular internet sources so you can install packages beyond the basic system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Link cfdisk with libncurses instead of slang?
On Mon Mar 12, 2001 at 12:40:25PM -0600, Joey Hess wrote: > Erik Andersen wrote: > > Indeed. Furthermore, when running mklibs.sh on slang, we get a very nice small > > library. For ncurses, it doesn't reduce well at all, so we end up with quite a > > size problem on the boot floppies when using ncurses. > > This is because we don't have a ncurses-pic library. Well, that is a start, but I don't think it will be sufficient. In the past when I have compiled up a pic version of ncurses, compled up a basic curses installer app and reduced it, libncurses did not reduce well at all. I can't recall the numbers off the top of my head, but I seem to recall the difference between reduced libncurses and reduced slang being like 100-200k... It is worth a test I suppose. I'd be glad to be proven wrong/forgetful, -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Link cfdisk with libncurses instead of slang?
Erik Andersen wrote: > Indeed. Furthermore, when running mklibs.sh on slang, we get a very nice small > library. For ncurses, it doesn't reduce well at all, so we end up with quite a > size problem on the boot floppies when using ncurses. This is because we don't have a ncurses-pic library. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing core udebs
Glenn McGrath wrote: > > 1) mount procfs under /proc > 2) mount shm under /dev/shm, (if we use devfs this is done > automatically) > 3) load any kernel modules found in the initrd filesystem > 4) mount the filesystem of the boot medium (e.g. /dev/fd0) > 5) search for, unpack and insert any core kernel_module*.udebs found > here. > 6) scan /proc for a list of storage devices > 7) try and automount detected storage device partitions > 8) create swap file or swap partition and use it. //PROBLEM, lowmem > machines a) with no existing partitions and only one drive, or b) with > partitions but no space will have problems past this point > 9) search mountable partitions for *udebs > 10) install found udebs under /dev/shm > 11) pivot_root to /dev/shm > 12) finish initrc and continue with a normal busybox init based in > /dev/shm. > Im currently in between step 9 and 10. I have a busybox dpkg-scanpackages applet that is mostly working, it searches a given directory for .udebs and reads the control file directly from the package (without extracting it to the filesystem), currently it just populates the dpkg struct (the one in udpkg). Now i just have to hook in the dpkg struct data into the bb dpkg applet (thats based on udpkg), then i can install the required packages hmm.. Will core udebs be marked as required or essential in the control file ? Glenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impressions on using the debian potato installation Cds
On Mon Mar 12, 2001 at 10:39:53AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > >> v19 emacs the default?! how about a newer default > > J> emacs19, emacs20, and xemacs21 are all available in the potato (stable) > > hmm, it could have asked me 'which one would you like the command > "emacs" to refer too' or something As long as "sl" is in the options list, I'd be ok with that. :-) -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impressions on using the debian potato installation Cds
> "J" == John H Robinson, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I use chrony on my other linux distribution. please ask the user if >> he agrees to writing the software clock to the hardware clock before >> doing this in the rc. scripts! the first time we notice it it is too >> late. J> during the install, you are asked if the real time clock is set to J> localtime or GMT. it does not actually set the hardware clock. well, I chose localtime. But in any case, at least add the warning "please note: the file /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh will copy the software clock time to the hardware clock at each shutdown of this system. If this will interfere with other timekeeping procedures you are already using, you might consider editing that file to prevent that action." >> ALT F2 shell window of ramdisk: I set set -o emacs but still couldn't >> use ^P J> the shell on the boot-floppies is ash, not bash. ash has no sense of history. J> i beleive the shell warns you of this when you start it. I think I even saw misleading $ set -o output too :-( >> v19 emacs the default?! how about a newer default J> emacs19, emacs20, and xemacs21 are all available in the potato (stable) hmm, it could have asked me 'which one would you like the command "emacs" to refer too' or something >> before writing any files on the hard disk, please ask about the time zone >> or something. the installation leaves files that seem 8 hrs younger >> than now [I'm a Taiwan localtime user ] J> time stamps are written in GMT. if you correctly answered the question J> about if the RTC is set to GMT or localtime, then the timestamps should J> be correct. well, I think lots of stuff is written to disk before that question[?], now looking at /etc/* it looks like I was installing that night, not in the daytime! Same happened with mandrake. Let's get it straight before the first file is written! I'm not to sure what is going on, but for us localtime folks that's what happens on linux installations. After the fisrt reboot one realizes the first set of files written assumed gmt or something. >> red/blue for default choice might not always work for perhaps >> color blind on your yes no questions. J> a black/white screen is also available. one of the first questions you J> are asked is color or b/w. (default is color) maybe throw in an underline or arrow or something just in case... well, I'm just thinking one day there will be a user in whose' culture certain colors have different habitual meanings... ok never mind. >> I'm actually glad that x windows isn't a requirement to run your >> installer script. J> me too. And thanks for [already] answering this... at least i know somebody's home... a basic requirement for further debian exploration confidence :-) >> no message on how to redo screwed up parts of the install from the shell J> in the install itself (before the reboot) you can go back in the menu J> and correct almost any step you might have made a mistake on. [I was thinking of for after the reboot] -- http://www.geocities.com/jidanni Tel886-4-25854780 ¿n¤¦¥§ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debootstrap_0.1.1
Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:42:28PM +0100 wrote: > Hi, > trying to build woody-bf on m68k: > > make release > [...] > make[1]: Entering directory /build/cts/boot-floppies' > ./rootdisk.sh "" /archive/debian/download 3700 2.3 "atari" C "" > I: ld.so on this architecture is ld.so.1 > I: single locale mode (USE_LANGUAGE_CHOOSER = false) > I: downloading required packages > E: Couldn't find package debootstrap > E: ./rootdisk.sh abort > > Automatic build of debootstrap_0.1.1.dsc on kullervo by sbuild 1.152 > Build started at 20010312-1740 > ** > Fetching .dsc file... > debootstrap_0.1.1.dsc: m68k not in arch list: i386 -- skipping > ** > Finished at 20010312-1740 > Build needed 00:00:00, 0k disk space > > So, does m68k need debootstrap or not? All archs will need debootstrap. > Can somebody please fix one or the > other or both? >From the debootstrap README.Debian: --- Notes - This is kind of rought at the moment: it installs a chrooted debian system okay (either potato or woody, not sid or slink though), but: * only works for i386 at the moment. should be fairly easy to adapt --- In fact the woody bootstrap fails on i386 right now too, but potato works. Somebody with root on the various archs needs to make it work on their arch. David > > Christian > -- > First they ignore you. Then they laugh about you. Then they fight you. > And then you win. [Mahatma Gandhi] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debootstrap_0.1.1
Hi, trying to build woody-bf on m68k: make release [...] make[1]: Entering directory /build/cts/boot-floppies' ./rootdisk.sh "" /archive/debian/download 3700 2.3 "atari" C "" I: ld.so on this architecture is ld.so.1 I: single locale mode (USE_LANGUAGE_CHOOSER = false) I: downloading required packages E: Couldn't find package debootstrap E: ./rootdisk.sh abort Automatic build of debootstrap_0.1.1.dsc on kullervo by sbuild 1.152 Build started at 20010312-1740 ** Fetching .dsc file... debootstrap_0.1.1.dsc: m68k not in arch list: i386 -- skipping ****** Finished at 20010312-1740 Build needed 00:00:00, 0k disk space So, does m68k need debootstrap or not? Can somebody please fix one or the other or both? Christian -- First they ignore you. Then they laugh about you. Then they fight you. And then you win. [Mahatma Gandhi] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: whats with modutils-basic udeb ?
We're still waiting for it to appear in the archive. Wichert is working on it. though I don't know when it will appear: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=83608&repeatmerged=yes In the meantime I just put a version that will probably work at: http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/ I changed the name from modutils-udeb (what I used to call it) to modutils-basic (what it will be called when it appears in the archive). Shouldn't have messed anything up, just thought I'd let you know in case something is wierd. David Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 11:32:49PM +1100 wrote: > the build utility fails because modutils-basic cant be found, what the > status, or plan of attack for this udeb ? > > Glenn > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whats with modutils-basic udeb ?
the build utility fails because modutils-basic cant be found, what the status, or plan of attack for this udeb ? Glenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing from scratch with debs
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 04:59:53PM -0600 , Gordon Sadler wrote:
> I'm not 100% clear why Debian has Priority: required ... and
> Essential: yes, seems there is probably a historical reason. It would
> probably be less confusing/complex to use just one to designate both.
no. Essential: yes is there so you don't have to depend on them. And it's
twice as hard to remove them
Petr Cech
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Re: Debian boot-floppies cvs now working
David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe the problem to be now fixed. Please try to checkout the woody branch > again and let me know if you experience difficulties. Works fine. Thanks. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian boot-floppies cvs now working
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, David Whedon wrote: > Thanks for bringing to my attention the problem with Debian boot-floppies cvs. > I believe the problem to be now fixed. Please try to checkout the woody branch > again and let me know if you experience difficulties. > Working fine. Phil. - Philip Charles; 39a Paterson St., Dunedin, New Zealand; +64 3 4882818 Mobile 025 267 9420. I sell GNU/Linux CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - prefered. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
