Re: Minimal install CD documentation

[Chris Tillman]

On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 10:05:13PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include 
> Chris Tillman wrote on Sat Apr 13, 2002 um 12:26:16PM:
> > Is the netinst CD now officially a part of boot-floppies? If so, I 
> > think it should be documented.
> 
> I think we should also document
> 
>http://cvs.debian.org/~checkout~/boot-floppies/i386-specials/mini-iso.sh?rev=1.8&content-type=text/x-sh
> somewhere. With this script, any user can cook an an own netinst image.

I did a version for powerpc. But, you don't put a bootloader on the image?
I think for powerpc we need yaboot.

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by dwhedon

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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
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time:   Fri Apr 19 22:15:26 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  we think #105621 is closed as well
  

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/fr by barbier

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
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time:   Fri Apr 19 17:13:28 PDT 2002
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  Two paragraphs were merged.
  

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Install

[Bruce Burhans]

Greetings-
I just installed Woody and ran into one major
glitch that forced me start over, where the screen read-

"Please choose the path inside the CD ROM 
where the Debian Archive resides.

/instmnt _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <> "

This situation was not mentioned in the Installation
Manual, and I eventually sort of stumbled on the path
by going over the READMEs  again. 

(/dists/woody/main/disks-i386)

The string "instmnt" was not mentioned in the
Installation Manual anywhere, and served to deepen my
perplexity. 

Otherwise, the Install was perfect, and I was 
very impressed with the job the Developers did.  Thank 
you one and all.  I will pass the good deed on someday.   
I'm a real Newbie now, and having a great time.
Debian GNU/Linux is the penguin's sqawk

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Re: french install manual is up-to-date?

[Denis Barbier]

On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:49:49PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> 
> I see a lot of updates in the French installation manual.  Is it
> up-to-date enough to be useful for woody?  Should we include it in the
> standard list of languages to build docs for?

Hi,

it took longer than expected, but we have updated the whole French
installation manual.  We now will carefully review it.  Could you please
put this manual online, I guess having a large audience could help us
finding most errors.

> Could you please also change the sources to support doc-check ?

Done.

Denis


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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
who:barbier
time:   Fri Apr 19 16:40:18 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Fix MBR translation
  

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
who:barbier
time:   Fri Apr 19 16:39:36 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Major update: 1.41 -> 1.98   [Patrice Karatchentzeff]
  

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
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time:   Fri Apr 19 14:36:37 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  www.alphalinux.org -> www.linuxalpha.org

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Re: screenshots from BFs?

[Nicolas Lopez]

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 07:42:33PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> Hello
> 
> How can I make screenshots from the BF-system? 
  I used Bochs before, so that or Plex86 might be usable. Or you could try
to chroot & run the installer on a running system, maybe in an xterm.

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Re: Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50

[Rolf Brudeseth]

Santiago,

The B50/43P-150 systems are CHRP machines. Usually, any system with Open
Firmware is a CHRP machine. The older PCI based systems without OF are
PREP, and the even older Microchannel based systems are RS6K. The only
exception that I am aware of is the 43P-140. It does not have OF and is
from an architecture standpoint supposedly a mixture of PREP and CHRP.

I expect you will find that the CHRP rescue image will not work either.
That is what I found last time I tried. Unlike PREP, the image is not dd'ed
on to the floppy. The boot image is just copied to a dos formatted floppy.
I found that the boot image on the Debian ftp site was to big for the
floppy.

To boot from floppy:
0> boot floppy:,\image_file_name

SuSE 7.3 can be booted from CD; however, I do not know exactly how it is
accomplished.

PS: As I have posted before, I know how to compile a kernel but I have
limited knowledge of how to build a RAM disk and bootable CDs. While I am
spending a fair amount of time trying to figure this out by reading various
FAQs and HOWTOs, if somebody already has images that they want tested I
would be glad to do so. I have access to pretty much all the various
RS/6000 and pSeries systems available.

PSS: If someone has technical questions pertaining to RS/6000 and pSeries
systems you can send them my way as well. I will forward them to the
internal Linux group.

Rolf

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Santiago Garcia Mantinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/19/2002 01:10:14 PM

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Subject:Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50


Hi!

First of all, sorry for the crosspost, but I think that the message belongs
to all the three lists.

I'm trying to see if woody will work on one of this machines, they are
powerpc based, the one I have access to has a serial console, cdrom and
floppy.

I read the Boot Floppies documentation where it says that the B50 is a prep
machine, so I put the prep rescue.bin on a floppy into the floppy drive and
a woody powerpc cd on the cdrom and made a couple of boot tries which went
more or less like this:

me:  0 > boot floppy
system: ok
me:  0 > boot cdrom
system:unrecognized Client Program formatstate not valid
system: ok

Then I tried with a potato cdrom and got this:

me:  0 > boot cdrom
system:PReP-BOOT : Unable to load PReP image.
system: ok

Well, I've been talking for a while with hollis on #debianppc and he has
told me that the B50 is not prep but chrp. If anyone can confirm this the
doc should be changed to signify this.

On the doc it is also said that the chrp is untested and I think that if
this is really chrp then we should try to test it now that I can ;-)

Also it says:
Generally, all you will need is a high-density (1440 kilobytes) 3.5 inch
floppy drive.  For CHRP floppy support is currently broken.

I was gonna test chrp floppies on monday, can anybody confirm if they are
supposed to boot the machine or not?

I'd also like to know if the CDs are supposed to boot on CHRP systems or
not :-?

And I would welcome any tips like parameters for booting this machines or
anything that you can give me, I'm new to this architecture, so I know
nothing about it.

Thanks in advance!

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screenshots from BFs?

[Michael Bramer]

Hello

How can I make screenshots from the BF-system? 

Gruss
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Testing woody on a IBM RS6000 B50

[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]

Hi!

First of all, sorry for the crosspost, but I think that the message belongs
to all the three lists.

I'm trying to see if woody will work on one of this machines, they are
powerpc based, the one I have access to has a serial console, cdrom and
floppy.

I read the Boot Floppies documentation where it says that the B50 is a prep
machine, so I put the prep rescue.bin on a floppy into the floppy drive and
a woody powerpc cd on the cdrom and made a couple of boot tries which went
more or less like this:

me: 0 > boot floppy
system:  ok
me: 0 > boot cdrom
system: unrecognized Client Program formatstate not valid
system:  ok

Then I tried with a potato cdrom and got this:

me: 0 > boot cdrom
system: PReP-BOOT : Unable to load PReP image.
system:  ok

Well, I've been talking for a while with hollis on #debianppc and he has
told me that the B50 is not prep but chrp. If anyone can confirm this the
doc should be changed to signify this.

On the doc it is also said that the chrp is untested and I think that if
this is really chrp then we should try to test it now that I can ;-)

Also it says:
Generally, all you will need is a high-density (1440 kilobytes) 3.5 inch
floppy drive.  For CHRP floppy support is currently broken.

I was gonna test chrp floppies on monday, can anybody confirm if they are
supposed to boot the machine or not?

I'd also like to know if the CDs are supposed to boot on CHRP systems or
not :-?

And I would welcome any tips like parameters for booting this machines or
anything that you can give me, I'm new to this architecture, so I know
nothing about it.

Thanks in advance!

Regards...
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cvs commit to boot-floppies by cklin

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Repository: boot-floppies
who:cklin
time:   Fri Apr 19 10:49:58 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Introducing traditional Chinese (zh_TW) support into dbootstrap.
  

Files:
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Bug#143620: boot-floppies: sgmltools-lite missing from Build-Depends

[Chuan-kai Lin]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-20
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

I was trying to build from the CVS source tonight and somehow the build
(through "make release" command) failed.  Investigation showed that the
build process makes use of the sgmltools-lite package, which is missing
from the Build-Depends declaration.

Technically no patch is supplied with the report, but the fix is
extremely trivial: add sgmltools-lite to Build-Depends.

-- System Information
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Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux oink 2.4.10 #1 SMP ¶g¤» 3¤ë 16 16:06:43 CST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5

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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by claush

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation
who:claush
time:   Fri Apr 19 10:46:13 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Danish update

Files:
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/da by claush

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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/da
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time:   Fri Apr 19 10:46:13 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Danish update

Files:
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Re: 3.0.23 for mips/i386 Was: boot-floppies manual

[Philip Blundell]

On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 01:36, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> BTW: Do we get 3.0.23 for mips with the linux.bi fix in - Otherwise
> we'll have to live with the errata written down somewhere for at least a
> year (or 2 until the next major release) ? 

This is incorrect, you would only have to wait until 3.0r1 for a fix. 
There are almost certain to be boot-floppies updates in point releases.

p.


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Re: 3.0.23 for mips/i386 Was: boot-floppies manual

[Florian Lohoff]

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 05:57:10PM -0700, David Kimdon wrote:
> > are not displayed and in some
> > occasions the screen gets garbled completely which requires some
> > experience on how to continue (Either by knowing ctrl-l works or by
> > knowing how many steps with cursor keys to do to continue)
>
> Can you be more specific?  Has a bug been filed?

Ok - More specific - When trying to select the modules in the chooser
when you need to scroll every second line get completely trashed as it
seems the border on the right is a char to much and wraps the line.
This leads to the output beeing completely unreadable.
Even ctrl-l does not redraw the screen - It stays the broken way it
is. You need to scroll a bit down and up to let the row under the
cursor to be redrawn.

Flo
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Re: Debian CD1 Woody

[Matt Kraai]

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:15:58AM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
> I would file a bug report if I knew where to file it, and against what (what
> product desciption) to file it.

Please follow the bug reporting instructions[1], and file it
against base-config.

Thanks for helping to improve Debian.

Matt

1. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting



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Re: Debian CD1 Woody

[Ron Stordahl]

I would file a bug report if I knew where to file it, and against what (what
product desciption) to file it.

If you would be kind enough to enlighten me I will do so.

Ron Stordahl

- Original Message -
From: "Matt Kraai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Debian CD1 Woody


> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 20:12:13PM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
> > I tried an install from the mini CD.
> >
> > It did not give me the option to specify an http proxy server, at
> least
> > I didn't notice it.  As a result when it apt went to get things, it
> > worked fine as long as the access was ftp, but when it went to
> > http://non-us.debian.org   it failed.  I was
> > unable at that point to find a way to reconfigure to include the http
> > proxy server that the system is behind.  FTP was not proxied, thus
> that
> > part worked.
>
> apt-setup, which is provided by base-config, should prompt for a
> proxy if one is not already set.  Would you please file a bug
> report against it?
>
> Matt
>


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Bug#143596: Fwd: Installation screen proposal

[Chris Tillman]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: 3.0.22
Severity: wishlist

- Forwarded message from Svante Signell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:08:13 +0200
From: Svante Signell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 21.2.1
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installation screen proposal (was Please test this woody cd image)

Hello,

When booting the Woody CD you are presented to the information screen
giving general information and ways to get help, etc _before_ choosing
which kernel to boot.

After choosing kernel and booting, however, you immediately get to the
'Choose language', 'Choose Language Variant' and 'Release Notes'
screens without any means to back out, correct mistakes etc. Finally
after the first four screens you enter the 'Installation Main Menu'.

I have the following proposal of an additional installation screen, as
follows:

=
After the initial screen, and _before_ entering the language choice
present another screen, telling the user what is happening next, eg:

Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 3.0/Woody. You have chosen to boot kernel xx, eg bf42. 

The steps to follow next in the installation procedure are:
1) Choose Language 
2) Choose Language Variant 
3) Read Release notes 
4) Enter Installation Main Menu

When you enter the Main menu, several choices will be presented, and a
default path for install will also be given. From there you will have
the choice to back out of the installation if needed.

If you feel unsure, need to get more information, make adjustments etc
before proceeding you now have the choice to back out by removing the
installation CD and press  or  now.  This is
also the way to go if you want to restart the installation using
another kernel.

For those of who are interested in the boot log you can do so by ...
(enter text here)


In my opinion this would help especially new Debian users to feel more
comfortable with what is going to happen during the install. (I know
that a graphical installer is in the works, but not until woody+1)

Best wishes,
Svante Signell

Below follows unanswered question in an earlier posting.  srs writes:
> Addtional boxes boot-tested with woody-isolinux:
 > 
 > Boxdisksidepci  bf24
 > Comapaq Presario 5640/5670 IDE   OK OK
 > Dell Dimension XPS 733rIDE   OK OK
 > Dual Celeron MSI6120   SCSI+IDE  OK OK
 > Em2 QDI Brilliant  SCSI  OK OK (compact tested OK too)
 > Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop  IDE   OK OK
 > 
 > A few comments about the installer program:
 > 
 > 1. Is it possible to generate a boot log, and to be able to view it
 >while installing?
 > 
 > 2. It would be nice to be able to back out, or doing a reboot _before_
 >having to go as long as to the keyboard setup phase. You maybe
 >changed your mind before coming that far: What am I doing?, I don't
 >have all info available!, whats happening next?, I want to quit the
 >install!, etc.
 > 
 > 3. When coming to the part of the install where you have several
 >choices, the reboot, restart and prevoius step options should be
 >higher up in the menu. This enables you to see a way out of the
 >install procedure, if needed.
 > 
 > Eagerly waiting for the woody release,
 > Svante Signell
 > 


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Re: Debian CD1 Woody

[Matt Kraai]

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 20:12:13PM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
> I tried an install from the mini CD.
>  
> It did not give me the option to specify an http proxy server, at least
> I didn't notice it.  As a result when it apt went to get things, it
> worked fine as long as the access was ftp, but when it went to
> http://non-us.debian.org   it failed.  I was
> unable at that point to find a way to reconfigure to include the http
> proxy server that the system is behind.  FTP was not proxied, thus that
> part worked.

apt-setup, which is provided by base-config, should prompt for a
proxy if one is not already set.  Would you please file a bug
report against it?

Matt



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Bug#143404: update

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Vincent McIntyre wrote on Fri Apr 19, 2002 um 09:58:33AM:

> RedHat7.2 boot floppy (boot.img from std cdrom) fails in the same way
>   Loading vmlinuz...
...
>  boot: ramdisk0  (also tried "linux ramdisk0")
>  Loading linux.bin...
>  Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue.

Please try another floppy disk (even more then one), or boot from DOS
via loadlin if you still have the option to boot DOS on this machine.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: modconf fails if using bf24

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Johannes!
Johannes Ranke schrieb am Friday, den 19. April 2002:

> I chose the bf24 option of the isolinux cd-image using . base-config
> worked well. But when I wanted to run modconf, it complained, that the
> directory /lib/modules/2.2...ide-pci (or similar) was not found. 
> 
> Is this a known bug?

Where did you get this image, and how old is it? There was a problem
with first releases where the wrong root image was loaded. Please
contact debian-cd people for further questions.

Gruss/Regards,
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modconf fails if using bf24

[Johannes Ranke]

Hallo booters!

I chose the bf24 option of the isolinux cd-image using . base-config
worked well. But when I wanted to run modconf, it complained, that the
directory /lib/modules/2.2...ide-pci (or similar) was not found. 

Is this a known bug?

Hannes



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