Bug#967633: [Mlt-devel] Fwd: Bug#967633: mlt: depends on deprecated GTK 2

[Dan Dennedy]

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:12 AM Patrick Matthäi 
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> any doubts about deactivating gtk2? It is also marked as deprecated
> (src/modules/gtk2/deprecated)
>

Deprecation is deactivation in the MLT configure script. For the latest
release you must remove that file to activate that module.


>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff: Bug#967633: mlt: depends on deprecated GTK 2
> Weitersenden-Datum: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:59:05 +
> Weitersenden-Von: s...@debian.org
> Weitersenden-An: Patrick Matthäi 
> 
> Datum: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:55:15 +0100
> Von: s...@debian.org
> Antwort an: s...@debian.org, 967633-mainto...@bugs.debian.org
> An: mainto...@bugs.debian.org
>
> Source: mlt
> Severity: normal
> User: pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Usertags: gtk2 oldlibs
> Control: block 947713 by -1
>
> This package has Build-Depends on GTK 2 (libgtk2.0-dev), or produces
> binary packages with a Depends on GTK 2.
>
> GTK 2 was superseded by GTK 3 in 2011 (see
>  ). It no
> longer receives any significant
> upstream maintenance, and in particular does not get feature development
> for new features like UI scaling on high-pixel-density displays (HiDPI)
> and native Wayland support. GTK 3 is in maintenance mode and GTK 4 is
> approaching release, so it seems like a good time to be thinking about
> minimizing the amount of GTK 2 in the archive.
>
> GTK 2 is used by some important productivity applications like GIMP, and
> has also historically been a popular UI toolkit for proprietary software
> that we can't change, so perhaps removing GTK 2 from Debian will never be
> feasible. However, it has reached the point where a dependency on it is
> a bug - not a release-critical bug, and not a bug that can necessarily
> be fixed quickly, but a piece of technical debt that maintainers should
> be aware of.
>
> A porting guide is provided in the GTK 3 documentation:
> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/migrating.html
>
> Some libraries (for example libgtkspell0) expose GTK as part of their
> API/ABI, in which case removing the deprecated dependency requires
> breaking API/ABI. For these libraries, in many cases there will already
> be a corresponding GTK 3 version (for example libgtkspell3-3-0), in which
> case the GTK 2-based library should probably be deprecated or removed
> itself. If there is no GTK 3 equivalent, of a GTK 2-based library,
> maintainers should talk to the dependent library's upstream developers
> about whether the dependent library should break API/ABI and switch
> to GTK 3, or whether the dependent library should itself be deprecated
> or removed.
>
> A few packages extend GTK 2 by providing plugins (theme engines, input
> methods, etc.) or themes, for example ibus and mate-themes. If these
> packages deliberately support GTK 2 even though it is deprecated, and
> they also support GTK 3, then it is appropriate to mark this mass-filed
> bug as wontfix for now. I have tried to exclude these packages from
> the mass-bug-filing, but I probably missed some of them.
>
> Regards,
> smcv
>
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Bug#967633: [Mlt-devel] Fwd: Bug#967633: mlt: depends on deprecated GTK 2

[Patrick Matthäi]

oh thank you. Then I will remove the dependencies :)

Am 04.08.20 um 18:14 schrieb Dan Dennedy:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:12 AM Patrick Matthäi  > wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> any doubts about deactivating gtk2? It is also marked as
> deprecated (src/modules/gtk2/deprecated)
>
>
> Deprecation is deactivation in the MLT configure script. For the
> latest release you must remove that file to activate that module.
>
>
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff:  Bug#967633: mlt: depends on deprecated GTK 2
> Weitersenden-Datum:   Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:59:05 +
> Weitersenden-Von: s...@debian.org 
> Weitersenden-An:  Patrick Matthäi 
> 
> Datum:Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:55:15 +0100
> Von:  s...@debian.org 
> Antwort an:   s...@debian.org ,
> 967633-mainto...@bugs.debian.org
> 
> An:   mainto...@bugs.debian.org 
>
>
>
> Source: mlt
> Severity: normal
> User: pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
> 
> Usertags: gtk2 oldlibs
> Control: block 947713 by -1
>
> This package has Build-Depends on GTK 2 (libgtk2.0-dev), or produces
> binary packages with a Depends on GTK 2.
>
> GTK 2 was superseded by GTK 3 in 2011 (see
> 
> ). It no longer receives any
> significant
> upstream maintenance, and in particular does not get feature
> development
> for new features like UI scaling on high-pixel-density displays
> (HiDPI)
> and native Wayland support. GTK 3 is in maintenance mode and GTK 4 is
> approaching release, so it seems like a good time to be thinking about
> minimizing the amount of GTK 2 in the archive.
>
> GTK 2 is used by some important productivity applications like
> GIMP, and
> has also historically been a popular UI toolkit for proprietary
> software
> that we can't change, so perhaps removing GTK 2 from Debian will
> never be
> feasible. However, it has reached the point where a dependency on
> it is
> a bug - not a release-critical bug, and not a bug that can necessarily
> be fixed quickly, but a piece of technical debt that maintainers
> should
> be aware of.
>
> A porting guide is provided in the GTK 3 documentation:
> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/migrating.html
>
> Some libraries (for example libgtkspell0) expose GTK as part of their
> API/ABI, in which case removing the deprecated dependency requires
> breaking API/ABI. For these libraries, in many cases there will
> already
> be a corresponding GTK 3 version (for example libgtkspell3-3-0),
> in which
> case the GTK 2-based library should probably be deprecated or removed
> itself. If there is no GTK 3 equivalent, of a GTK 2-based library,
> maintainers should talk to the dependent library's upstream developers
> about whether the dependent library should break API/ABI and switch
> to GTK 3, or whether the dependent library should itself be deprecated
> or removed.
>
> A few packages extend GTK 2 by providing plugins (theme engines, input
> methods, etc.) or themes, for example ibus and mate-themes. If these
> packages deliberately support GTK 2 even though it is deprecated, and
> they also support GTK 3, then it is appropriate to mark this
> mass-filed
> bug as wontfix for now. I have tried to exclude these packages from
> the mass-bug-filing, but I probably missed some of them.
>
> Regards,
> smcv
>
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