Bug#591975: [MTOS-dev] Licence/source code for .swf files shipping with MTOS

2010-09-29 Thread Jun Kaneko

Dominic,

Sorry to keep you waiting,
I'm talking with the author again.
Please wait for a while for the response.

Jun Kaneko
jkan...@sixapart.com




On 2010/09/27, at 2:57, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:40:20PM +0900, Jun Kaneko wrote:

I confirmed with the plugin author about it.
Unfortunately it is not yet ready to be opened to the public,
and requires some more time, probably until the end of September.


Hello,

I wondered if you had any more news about this fix which would allow
MTOS to be released with Debian squeeze (main) soon?

If it's not forthcoming, I will need to move it to non-free (which
isn't a disaster -- it can be moved back for future releases), but
obviously is sub-optimal).

Thanks,
Dominic.

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Bug#591975: [MTOS-dev] Licence/source code for .swf files shipping with MTOS

2010-08-20 Thread Jun Kaneko

Dominic,

I confirmed with the plugin author about it.
Unfortunately it is not yet ready to be opened to the public,
and requires some more time, probably until the end of September.

And the fundamental solution should be to re-design the dashboard
without these flash files at the future release of MT.
As we have already closed the feature planning phase for 5.1,
we will also consider at the one after 5.1 to review this new  
requirement.



Jun Kaneko
jkan...@sixapart.com




On 2010/08/19, at 6:20, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:05:53PM +0900, Jun Kaneko wrote:

Dominic,

I cannot guarantee whether it will work or not.
But anyway I'll ask the plugin author if he can
open the plugin to public.


Thanks, this may well be a good interim solution for us.

Dominic.

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Bug#591975: [MTOS-dev] Licence/source code for .swf files shipping with MTOS

2010-08-15 Thread Jun Kaneko

Dominic,

I cannot guarantee whether it will work or not.
But anyway I'll ask the plugin author if he can
open the plugin to public.


Jun Kaneko
jkan...@sixapart.com




On 2010/08/16, at 2:04, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:32:21AM +0900, Jun Kaneko wrote:

Sorry to get back to you late.
I am wishing to replace these flash files
by more generic solution such as JavaScript and/or HTML5
at some future MT5 milestone.
But I believe that we are looking for the immediate solution for  
MT4.3x.


It is difficult to simply remove these files
since it is tighten to the core functionality.
I know one MT4 plugin which will disable the Blog Stats function.
( originally it was developed for the performance reason )
I am not sure whether the plugin will also allow us
to remove the flash files.
It can be a solution, but then we have to create
some kind of a dedicated package for the distribution.

In any ways, we need more time and
probably need a future release to replace the functionality itself.


Thanks for your reply. So it sounds like you plan to do some work
at Six Apart to help fix this for Debian in the short term by removing
the flash functionality? Is that correct?

If you can supply a patch against the current source so that the flash
files won't be used, I can ensure that they aren't installed in the
Debian package; I don't think that a new release tarball will
necessarily be needed from you, although I would appreciate any
clarification from the bug submitter (as well as any ideas on better
ways to proceed).

Thanks,
Dominic.

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Bug#591975: [MTOS-dev] Licence/source code for .swf files shipping with MTOS

2010-08-14 Thread Jun Kaneko
Dominic,

Sorry to get back to you late.
I am wishing to replace these flash files
by more generic solution such as JavaScript and/or HTML5
at some future MT5 milestone.
But I believe that we are looking for the immediate solution for MT4.3x.

It is difficult to simply remove these files
since it is tighten to the core functionality.
I know one MT4 plugin which will disable the Blog Stats function.
( originally it was developed for the performance reason )
I am not sure whether the plugin will also allow us
to remove the flash files.
It can be a solution, but then we have to create
some kind of a dedicated package for the distribution.

In any ways, we need more time and
probably need a future release to replace the functionality itself.

Jun Kaneko


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Dominic Hargreaves  wrote:
> [CCing original bug submitter]
>
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:34:04PM +0900, Jun Kaneko wrote:
>> The flash is based on Measure Map
>>
>> http://web.archive.org.sharedcopy.com/web/20080201024546/http://www.measuremap.com/developer/slider/5e904e2f0806268e138f94fd951667b4.html
>>
>> and it's been licensed under CC2.0 Generic.
>
> Unfortunately, this licence has been deemed non-DFSG-free:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#CreativeCommonsAttributionLicense.28CC-by.29.2Cv1.0
>
> so I don't think we can leave things as they are in Debian main, even
> if we could get the correct version of the source code.
>
> I'm not sure what the best way to move forward on this, to avoid
> having to remove MT from Debian main.
>
> Does anyone have a feel for how easy it would be to remove the
> flash without affecting the rest of the functionality of the
> application? To be honest I don't have much time or energy to devote
> to this so if there is consensus in Debian that the current situation
> can't stand, removal, or at least moving to non-free is inevitable.
>
> Dominic.
>
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