Re: Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Michael Meskes wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:00:09PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Is anyone from Debian planning on attending the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit? I'm particularly interested if someone is Yes, I will be there. Michael, Since you'll be there, please raise the issue of the LSB not publishing source in a timely manner and in a convenient format for the LSB development tools[1]. Currently, when they remember to publish source, they do it as a set of individual source rpms instead of a single .tgz which would be much easier to deal with. I've filed a bug on this[2], and discussed it with a member of the LSB for several months prior to that, but last time I checked a couple of week ago, nothing has changed. As it is, I've all but decided to orphan, or request the removal of the packages because they are more of a pain to maintain than I think they are worth, given the few (if any) users of the packages. Please note, I'm only talking about the development related packages, not the run-time support packages such as lsb-base, et al. Stuart [1] lsb-appchk, lsb-build-base, lsb-build-cc, lsb-pkgchk [2] http://bugs.linuxbase.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2737 Stuart R. Anderson ander...@netsweng.com Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.lnx.4.64.1003130948070.1...@trantor.stuart.netsweng.com
Bug#385983: ITP: php4-ming -- PHP module for libming
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: php4-ming Version : 4.4.2 Upstream Author : Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.libming.org/ License : PHP License Programming Lang: C Description : PHP module for libming This package provides a module for ming functions in PHP scripts. The ming library is used to creates Adobe Flash output. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (910, 'testing'), (750, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-686-smp Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#385984: ITP: php5-ming -- PHP module for libming
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: php5-ming Version : 5.1.4 Upstream Author : Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.libming.org/ * License : PHP License Programming Lang: C Description : PHP module for libming This package provides a module for ming functions in PHP scripts. The ming library is used to creates Adobe Flash output. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (910, 'testing'), (750, 'unstable'), (500, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-686-smp Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITPs for packages lsb-* currently in NEW
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, AnĂbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: Hello Stuart, Where are the ITPs of the following packages currently in NEW: lsb-appchk2 lsb-appchk3 lsb-build-base2 lsb-build-base3 lsb-build-cc2 lsb-build-cc3 lsb-pkgchk3 Bug #35165. (Yes, I just realized the Closes is missing in the changelog.) Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149
Re: Status of inetd for etch
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Jim Crilly wrote: On 08/15/06 09:49:54AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, This seems to be totally overengineered. Having MTA a provide sendmail which uses MTA b for remote deliveries is no common usage scenario on which any effort should be spent in the Debian packaging infrastructure. Actually the only sane explanation for wanting to install two MTAs I ever heard of was "I am running X now and want to switch to Y. - I'd like to test Y in the real system before going live." I know of at least one firewall product that includes 2 copies of sendmail, one for accepting messages from the Internet and one for processing and sending them to the internal servers. This is actually a common setup when using amavis-ng, spamassasin and the rest of the spam fighting packages current available in Debian. It is currently difficult to provide the full capabilities of what all of these packages can do together unless you have 2 systems upon which to spread the 2 MTAs. The 'front' and 'back' MTAs in such an antispam configuration have different requirments, and they can best be met by using different MTAs for each. I think it is worth a small amount of effort to allow multiple MTAs to co-exist. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: No, Replaces:/Povides:/Conflicts: libming-... ^^^ important, because woody's package is named like that. for packages not yet in the archive (your ming-* you can do that but you don't need to; but you *need* the lib there) Doh.. of course. That's what I _meant_, but not what I typed. Thanks for catching that. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Would it be possible to convert them at installation time? Yes, it would be possible. There would be two essential options: 1. creation at installation time: - possibly only one package for all ming fonts (the tool) The tool is currently provided as part of the libming-util package. - less packages on the mirrors 2. building a ming font package for the wanted TTF font packages Subject to the input I receive on this, I estimate that only 3-4 font packages would need to be provided to cover the commonly used fonts. I don't want an explosion of packages in an effort to convert all fonts that are available, but I do think it would be good to provide the common fonts that are used by applications that depend on libming. I'd go for option one with a small util that: 1. installs the ttf font package e.g. via apt 2. converts to ming fonts 3. optionally uninstalls the ttf font package I have so far choosen the other option because I felt that when installing on a production server, I wanted to _not_ do the extra work of converting the fonts as part of the installation, nor did I want to have to go perform a manual step on multiple servers. This could also lead to other applications (which depend on libming) having to build the fonts in their postinstall script, and there could be multiple applications that need the same font. It is still possible to perform option #1 since the tool is provided, but I would like for the common cases to be effortless for the end user. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: stable doesn't have the package anymore and oldstable is unsupported. And dist-upgrades skipping one release is not supported. But yes, I think so. If not, you can add a transitional package, although I won't like it because of the "bogus" name... So this should cover it? Package: ming-fonts-opensymbol Conflicts: ming-fonts-openoffice Replaces: ming-fonts-openoffice Provides: ming-fonts-openoffice Interestingly, the ttf-opensymbol package places the font in the openoffice directory. /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/opens___.ttf Does this need to be fixed? I have my package putting its results in the same directory name (only the last part, the parent parent directory is different) as is used for the ttf files, but I think I can fix that easily enough for libming-fonts-opensymbol. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: OK. Now, I fetched your -openoffice pakcage and saw that (as I guessed) it just does OpenSymbol. Can you please name it -opensymbol (to show that it is the opensymbol font from ttf-opensymbol) then? Yes, that would be a better naming scheme. I was a little bit concerned with the migration path for anyone that had the old package installed, but I suppose the right set of Conflicts/Replaces/Provides would cover that? Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: Are those fonts manually converted? YOu didn't answer his question. Fair enough. The coffee hadn't quite kicked in yet. 8-) Are they manually converted? Or how are they converted? I wasn't sure what Alejandro had in mind, so I didn't want to answer for him. In the past however, that package was made from some fonts that were manually converted and uploaded to the ming FTP site. The tool that was used for that conversion a few years ago has suffered some bitrot. Can they be converted during-build of some other package (where the fonts are from, when there's OOo fonts I mean ttf-opensymbol and ttf-bitstream-vera). Yes, the packages I have prepared are built as part of the rest of the ming package. The ming source package Build-depends on the package that contains the TTF fonts that will be converted into a libming font package. Upstream ming (and the libming-util package) now includes an updated version of the tool that is used to convert the fonts. It is now trivial to create additional libming format font packages, so some of the feedback I'd like to receive, is which fonts would it be useful to have already converted and packaged. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Are those fonts manually converted? If not, wouldn't it be better to convert them as needed instead of yet-another-incompatible-font-package? The long term plan is for libming to be able to read in TTF fonts directly, but that's not there yet. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: Am Dienstag, 8. August 2006 09:28 schrieb Alejandro Rios P.: * Package name: libming-fonts-openoffice Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : OpenOffice.org * URL : http://www.openoffice.org/ * License : GPL Description : Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation These are the OpenOffice Fonts converted for use with libming, I already have package for these fonts prepared as part of the ming sounrce package, and am awaiting some feedback from some of the packages that will use them. Feedback from others would be welcome as well. deb http://www4.netsweng.com/~anderson/ming-unstable/ binary/ [Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:30:29 -0500] [ftpmaster: James Troup] Removed the following packages from unstable: --- Reason --- RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, grave bugs, unused. -- Did that change? Did you fix the grave bugs? I have adopted the libming packages, and there has been a new version in unstable for a few weeks now. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378907: ITP: tet -- Test Environment Toolkit from the Open Group
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: tet, tet-dev Version : 3.7a Upstream Author : The Open Group * URL : http://tetware.opengroup.org/ * License : Artistic Programming Lang: C Description : Test Environment Toolkit from the Open Group The TET frame work is needed to build certain tests suites such as the X Test Suite (xts5), and the LSB test suites (which are derived from the POSIX test suites). -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (910, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-k7 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#378906: ITP: xts5 -- X Test Suite
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xts5 Version : 5.0.2.cvs20070717 Upstream Author : X.Org Foundation * URL : http://www.x.org/ * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: C Description : X Test Suite This package will contain the X Test Suite (formerly known as VSW5). -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (910, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-k7 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#356165: ITP: lsb-utils -- LSB development tools
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lsb-* Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.linuxbase.org/ * License : GPL Description : LSB development tools This is actually a set of package containing development utilities for building LSB applications. The package are as follows lsb-build-base2, lsb-build-cc2, lsb-apchk2 lsb-build-base3, lsb-build-cc3, lsb-apchk3, lsbpkgchk3 These set of packages contains tools for versions 2 and 3 of the LSB. Use of the tools are described in http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7067 -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (910, 'testing'), (750, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]