Re: A language by any other name

2001-09-13 Thread mheyes

Don't forget Dutch, French and German in Belgium.

michael heyes





Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/13/2001 11:55:08 AM

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John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:

> Federico writes:
> > ...spain for spanish, italy for italian, france for french,
> > etc. everybody is accepting that on other languages, don't see why the
> > americans should do different...
>
> Right.  Swiss for Switzerland, belgian for Belgium, canadian for Canada,
> mexican for Mexico, brazilian for Brazil...
hmmm I think he meant the opposite... brazil to portuguese as spoken in
Brasil,
canada for english/french(?) spoken on canada, etc...

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Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #59

2001-01-10 Thread mheyes

Really really nice!






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