Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 schrieb Johannes Wiedersich: Install gtk-qt-engine and configure it from control centre. Hey Joe, thanks for the hint! Def'ney better look'n'feel - but I still have to wait 3-4 minutes when ever I want to open an ICS with iceowl from firefox... Would love to get rid of this crappy file dialog. Cheers Rudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
On 08/09/2008 03:12 PM, Rudi Effe wrote: [snip] (4) missing eyecandiness: grey and simple icons, no rounded corners, dominating dark grey, low percentage of area used for content/ information (too much frame). Install gtk-qt-engine and configure it from control centre. Johannes $ aptitude show gtk-qt-engine Package: gtk-qt-engine [snip] Description: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x The GTK-Qt Theme Engine (also known as gtk-qt-engine) is a GTK 2 theme engine that calls Qt to do the actual drawing. This makes your GTK 2 applications look almost like real Qt applications and gives you a more unified desktop experience. Please note that this package is targeted at KDE users and therefore provides a way to configure it from within KControl. Homepage: http://gtk-qt.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Dear Sam, thank you for your patient and thorough reply. I added my points to some existing bug reports - I hope they won't get me wrong. Am Samstag 09 August 2008 schrieb Sam Morris: This is simply due to the default GTK+ theme being, well, rubbish. If you change your theme to the default GNOME theme then things will look much better. You can do this by running gnome-appearance-properties which appears to work by fiddling with the values of the gconf keys under '/desktop/gnome/interface'. Well, with KDE, I get a /!\ Warning: Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager. Maybe I need to install Gnome Desktop and run this tool from there? But maybe there is a global option to replace the gtk+ FileChooser by any other fileselectbox (as known from Atari GEMDOS)... @Michael: You are possibly right - but: - Developers tend to know better what component is responsible - Next to bugzilla, a developer list might be a working option to reach the GTK+ coders themselves. Sorry rUdi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:58:14AM +0200, Rudi Effe wrote: @Michael: You are possibly right - but: - Developers tend to know better what component is responsible So you suggest every user should ask on debian-devel first before filing a bug, so we tell them what package it belongs to? Do you think this would scale beyond you? Why are you special? - Next to bugzilla, a developer list might be a working option to reach the GTK+ coders themselves. Certainly debian-devel isn't prominently read by the GTK+ coders, and certainly the GTK+ coders prefer bug reports in their bug reporting system not on their development mailing list. thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Dear list, for some reason, Debian favors Gnome to be the default desktop. My reason for using KDE is mainly Gnomes file browser. But as a matter of fact, major applications are using the GTK2 libraries (Mozilla, Openoffice.org, Gimp, Audacity etc.) - and Opneoffice.org is the only one that allows to use the KDE file selector. Now, what's wrong with the GTK2 file chooser? I will report a bug if anybody could name the package/library I have to refer to. Look at this screen shot for instance: http://imagebin.ca/view/wxHN3lH.html (1) all entries are displayed twice (2) there is no option to sort by size or to even display size. maybe this must be enabled by the calling app (audacity here) - but if this option is not diallowed explicitly, it should be possible to add it by the browsing user. (3) whenever I tell Mozilla to open a dialogue with a specific app, I can (to be quick) enter its path right in the file name box (say: /usr/bin/ark). Next time however, the file selector will start browsing that directory (/usr/bin) and produce a hang lasting at least 4-5 seconds. Suspecting - missing caching - slow algorithms - bad threading (4) missing eyecandiness: grey and simple icons, no rounded corners, dominating dark grey, low percentage of area used for content/ information (too much frame). Sorry, don't get me wrong - I just wanted to share my personal impression of this fun stopper - it's like a hair in a five star soup! Regards Rudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
Dear Rudi, On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 03:12:56PM +0200, Rudi Effe wrote: Now, what's wrong with the GTK2 file chooser? I will report a bug if anybody could name the package/library I have to refer to. This list is for Debian development. Please write to debian-user for support on how to figure out the package a particular file/application/dialog belongs to and/or how to file a bug report. thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:12:56 +0200, Rudi Effe wrote: Dear list, for some reason, Debian favors Gnome to be the default desktop. My reason for using KDE is mainly Gnomes file browser. But as a matter of fact, major applications are using the GTK2 libraries (Mozilla, Openoffice.org, Gimp, Audacity etc.) - and Opneoffice.org is the only one that allows to use the KDE file selector. Now, what's wrong with the GTK2 file chooser? I will report a bug if anybody could name the package/library I have to refer to. Look at this screen shot for instance: http://imagebin.ca/view/wxHN3lH.html (1) all entries are displayed twice This looks like a bug that should be filed at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ against the 'gtk+' product. (2) there is no option to sort by size or to even display size. maybe this must be enabled by the calling app (audacity here) - but if this option is not diallowed explicitly, it should be possible to add it by the browsing user. Seems like a useful feature. You should file a bug at http:// bugzilla.gnome.org/ against the 'gtk+' product. (3) whenever I tell Mozilla to open a dialogue with a specific app, I can (to be quick) enter its path right in the file name box (say: /usr/bin/ark). Next time however, the file selector will start browsing that directory (/usr/bin) and produce a hang lasting at least 4-5 seconds. Suspecting - missing caching - slow algorithms - bad threading The problem is that all the files in /usr/bin have MIME detection done on them, which takes ages. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi? id=322314 for further details. (4) missing eyecandiness: grey and simple icons, no rounded corners, dominating dark grey, low percentage of area used for content/ information (too much frame). This is simply due to the default GTK+ theme being, well, rubbish. If you change your theme to the default GNOME theme then things will look much better. You can do this by running gnome-appearance-properties which appears to work by fiddling with the values of the gconf keys under '/desktop/gnome/interface'. Regards Rudi -- Sam Morris http://robots.org.uk/ PGP key id 1024D/5EA01078 3412 EA18 1277 354B 991B C869 B219 7FDB 5EA0 1078 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:12:56 +0200, Rudi Effe wrote: (2) there is no option to sort by size or to even display size. maybe this must be enabled by the calling app (audacity here) - but if this option is not diallowed explicitly, it should be possible to add it by the browsing user. In fact, there is already a bug about this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=325095 -- Sam Morris http://robots.org.uk/ PGP key id 1024D/5EA01078 3412 EA18 1277 354B 991B C869 B219 7FDB 5EA0 1078 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
