Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Igor Stroh
Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
> Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:31:29 +0100
> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> 
>> ... twice the size, but it can do a whole lot more. And it has the
>> added benefit that it can actually fire off GET/HEAD/POST/whatever
>> requests.
>>
>> This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am not
>> convinced.
> 
> I don't really have an opinion on whether furl should be included, but
> just playing devil's advocate: the perl lib's is twice the size, but
> you'd need the perl interpreter which uses lots of megs. The furl
> utility is written in C, and thus should not need anything other than
> libc6, so could be a nice thing to have on very small installs, along
> with a small libc and busybox.

FWIW, there's `wget --server-response` which also depends only on libc6
and libssl (btw, it seems like furl can't handle HTTPS)...

Cheers,
Igor


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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:31:29 +0100
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:

> ... twice the size, but it can do a whole lot more. And it has the
> added benefit that it can actually fire off GET/HEAD/POST/whatever
> requests.
> 
> This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am not
> convinced.

I don't really have an opinion on whether furl should be included, but
just playing devil's advocate: the perl lib's is twice the size, but
you'd need the perl interpreter which uses lots of megs. The furl
utility is written in C, and thus should not need anything other than
libc6, so could be a nice thing to have on very small installs, along
with a small libc and busybox.

See you,

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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 14, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am not
> convinced.
I object, since so far it looks like a worthless waste of disk space.

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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.14.0735 +0100]:
> It' s more little and easy to use... a little utility. 
> I must specify this in description, sorry.
> 
> $ ls -alh /usr/bin/furl
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8,6K 2006-08-11 10:18 /usr/bin/furl
> 
> $ls -alh /usr/bin/lynx.stable
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1,2M 2006-05-13 08:13 /usr/bin/lynx.stable

lapse:~> ls -lh =lwp-request
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15K 2006-02-23 20:54 /usr/bin/lwp-request*


... twice the size, but it can do a whole lot more. And it has the
added benefit that it can actually fire off GET/HEAD/POST/whatever
requests.

This is libwww-perl. I don't object to furl, but so far I am not
convinced.

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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-14 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1155544521 past the epoch, Marco Bertorello wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:08:19 +0200
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a real benefit over lynx -dump -head and similar things ?
> 
> It' s more little and easy to use... a little utility. 
> I must specify this in description, sorry.
> 
> $ ls -alh /usr/bin/furl
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8,6K 2006-08-11 10:18 /usr/bin/furl
> 
> $ls -alh /usr/bin/lynx.stable
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1,2M 2006-05-13 08:13 /usr/bin/lynx.stable

Just for reference, the libwww-perl package comes with some useful
aliases, HEAD, GET, etc.:

~$ ls -lh $(readlink -f $(which HEAD))
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 14K 2005-02-14 00:35 /usr/bin/lwp-request

~$ HEAD -S alcopop.org
HEAD http://alcopop.org --> 302 Moved Temporarily
HEAD http://alcopop.org/log/ --> 200 OK
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:15:41 GMT
...

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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-13 Thread Marco Bertorello
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:08:19 +0200
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:35:42PM +0200, Marco Bertorello
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > 
> > * Package name: furl
> >   Version : 2.1
> >   Upstream Author : Kidney Bingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://www.gumbynet.org.uk/software/furl.html
> > * License : GPL v2 (or later)
> >   Programming Lang: C
> >   Description : a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers
> > returned by Web servers
> > 
> >  furl is a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers
> >  returned by Web servers in response to client requests
> >  .
> >  It can impersonate two different browser: Internet Explorer
> >  and Mozilla
> 
> Is there a real benefit over lynx -dump -head and similar things ?

It' s more little and easy to use... a little utility. 
I must specify this in description, sorry.

$ ls -alh /usr/bin/furl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8,6K 2006-08-11 10:18 /usr/bin/furl

$ls -alh /usr/bin/lynx.stable
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1,2M 2006-05-13 08:13 /usr/bin/lynx.stable

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Re: Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:35:42PM +0200, Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> * Package name: furl
>   Version : 2.1
>   Upstream Author : Kidney Bingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.gumbynet.org.uk/software/furl.html
> * License : GPL v2 (or later)
>   Programming Lang: C
>   Description : a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned 
> by Web servers
> 
>  furl is a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers
>  returned by Web servers in response to client requests
>  .
>  It can impersonate two different browser: Internet Explorer
>  and Mozilla

Is there a real benefit over lynx -dump -head and similar things ?

Mike


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Bug#382531: ITP: furl -- a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by Web servers

2006-08-11 Thread Marco Bertorello
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Marco Bertorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: furl
  Version : 2.1
  Upstream Author : Kidney Bingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.gumbynet.org.uk/software/furl.html
* License : GPL v2 (or later)
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers returned by 
Web servers

 furl is a small utility for displaying the HTTP headers
 returned by Web servers in response to client requests
 .
 It can impersonate two different browser: Internet Explorer
 and Mozilla

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