Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-25 Thread Tom Lees
 Erik == Erik B Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


   Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Christoph Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the
 Christoph prompt and also the ability to boot something with a
 Christoph single keystroke. If someone could update the lilo
 Christoph package and provide a decent configuration then lilo
 Christoph could also offer a nice menu on boot up so that newbies
 Christoph are no longer irritated.
  
  I'll have a look at this.
  
 Christoph Maybe lilo could also replace syslinux for the
 Christoph bootdisks??
  
  As someone else already said, this would be a bad idea, since the advantage
  of syslinux is its DOS support.
  

 Erik My wife likes chos because it offers a nice simple and friendly 
 Erik and obvious like Windoze type of menu that lets her use the arrow
 Erik keys to move a color menu bar onto the (unmentionable OS) selection
 Erik a press enter.  This is very easy, and requires no domestic fighting.

Yes, I liked that feature of chos when I looked at it.

 Erik I took a quick glance at the lilo 2.0 user's manual last night and 
 Erik I wasn't convinced that the message feature was going to be a 
 Erik nice simple and friendly and obvious like Windoze type of replacement.  
 Erik chos is much better than booting Linux using loadlin from a certain 
 Erik unmentionable OS, (which is how I used to not freak out my wife).  
 Erik If the message feature of lilo 2.0 can make lilo as
 Erik friendly as chos, fine, I will use it.  I doubt I will be making a

No, it certainly won't do that. :(

 Erik switch really soon though. How hard would it be to hack bzImage
 Erik support into chos?  That is the only real problem with chos, right?

Well, I have pretty specific requirements (which meant I had been
using lilo 17 until lately when 20 came out) - I need the feature
which can hide one DOS partition when you select another.

 Erik Are there any other features lacking from it that make it unusable
 Erik by Debian?  I can certainly attest to the fact that this is one 
 Erik piece of software that passes the wife test!

I also believe that it can't/won't load its second-stage loader from
the second hard drive (i.e. BIOS drive 0x81). This really should be a
simple fix, however.

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Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-24 Thread Erik B. Andersen
 
  Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 Christoph Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the
 Christoph prompt and also the ability to boot something with a
 Christoph single keystroke. If someone could update the lilo
 Christoph package and provide a decent configuration then lilo
 Christoph could also offer a nice menu on boot up so that newbies
 Christoph are no longer irritated.
 
 I'll have a look at this.
 
 Christoph Maybe lilo could also replace syslinux for the
 Christoph bootdisks??
 
 As someone else already said, this would be a bad idea, since the advantage
 of syslinux is its DOS support.
 
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My wife likes chos because it offers a nice simple and friendly 
and obvious like Windoze type of menu that lets her use the arrow
keys to move a color menu bar onto the (unmentionable OS) selection
a press enter.  This is very easy, and requires no domestic fighting.
I took a quick glance at the lilo 2.0 user's manual last night and 
I wasn't convinced that the message feature was going to be a 
nice simple and friendly and obvious like Windoze type of replacement.  
chos is much better than booting Linux using loadlin from a certain 
unmentionable OS, (which is how I used to not freak out my wife).  
If the message feature of lilo 2.0 can make lilo as
friendly as chos, fine, I will use it.  I doubt I will be making a
switch really soon though. How hard would it be to hack bzImage
support into chos?  That is the only real problem with chos, right?
Are there any other features lacking from it that make it unusable
by Debian?  I can certainly attest to the fact that this is one 
piece of software that passes the wife test!

 -Erik

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Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-24 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Jun 23, Erik B. Andersen wrote
:  
: friendly as chos, fine, I will use it.  I doubt I will be making a
: switch really soon though. How hard would it be to hack bzImage
: support into chos?  That is the only real problem with chos, right?
: Are there any other features lacking from it that make it unusable
: by Debian?  I can certainly attest to the fact that this is one 
: piece of software that passes the wife test!
: 

Just sitting and waiting is wife proof too ;-)  This way
I installed lilo.  Having in mind that's quite easy to tell users
of the unmentionable ``OS'' that they simply should wait (the lilo 
message option does this quite well) and knowing, that, if I use
the Linux soul of my machine, I boot once at beginning of my work and
stop once if all is done ..., so typing ``linux'' is not too hard for me.



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Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-23 Thread Tom Lees
 Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Christoph Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the
Christoph prompt and also the ability to boot something with a
Christoph single keystroke. If someone could update the lilo
Christoph package and provide a decent configuration then lilo
Christoph could also offer a nice menu on boot up so that newbies
Christoph are no longer irritated.

I'll have a look at this.

Christoph Maybe lilo could also replace syslinux for the
Christoph bootdisks??

As someone else already said, this would be a bad idea, since the advantage
of syslinux is its DOS support.

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Re: Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-22 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On Jun 21, Christoph Lameter wrote
 Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the prompt and also the
 ability to boot something with a single keystroke. If someone could update
 the lilo package and provide a decent configuration then lilo could also
 offer a nice menu on boot up so that newbies are no longer irritated.
 
 Maybe lilo could also replace syslinux for the bootdisks??

no !

syslinux is a goot thing, because you can modify the boot disk with dos.
this way is was able to replace the kernel (dos file linux) with the
vmlinuz image from 2.0.30. i needed that to install linux on a computer
with a buslogic scsi controller (supported in 2.0.30, not in 2.0.29).

with lilo boot disk will maybe not have a dos format, and this way i
cannot do such things.

regards, andreas


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Hamm: Retracting request for chos to be standard

1997-06-21 Thread Christoph Lameter
Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the prompt and also the
ability to boot something with a single keystroke. If someone could update
the lilo package and provide a decent configuration then lilo could also
offer a nice menu on boot up so that newbies are no longer irritated.

Maybe lilo could also replace syslinux for the bootdisks??

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