Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: [snip] > > nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that > the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has > been exceeded. > Do you have PAM installed. I vaguely remember you can specify such things there (but i'm not sure though). Bart -- B. Warmerdam GNU/Debian Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keyid: 10A0FDD1)
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) > > that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time > > limit has been exceeded. > > Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there > are no idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so > you wont see them in ps. i've only noticed it on serial lines. it certainly doesn't happen on root ssh logins. i don't use telnet, and the machine is at a remote location so i don't know if it happens on the console -- i built it by logging in at the console, of course :-), and i don't remember it happening then. i should test whether it is specific to non-root logins as well. ssh as a normal user rather than as root. craig -- craig sanders
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that > the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has > been exceeded. Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there are no idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so you wont see them in ps. Greetings bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem > > also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was > > noticed. > > perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit? > > See ulimit -a nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has been exceeded. this is very strange as the machine in question has no timeout daemons (timeoutd, idled, autolog) installed. it's a plain slink install with internet-gateway & dialin-server type packages installed (squid, apache, qmail, mgetty, pppd, etc) i've built many similar boxes and haven't encountered this problem before. it seems specific to slink. craig -- craig sanders
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem also > occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed. perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit? See ulimit -a Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote: > > FWIW - I have the same problem. No idled. No logoutd. No lines > > in /etc/porttime. Still get booted off the console after several > > hours. > > Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality. nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed. craig -- craig sanders
Re: login time limits in slink???
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote: > > FWIW - I have the same problem. No idled. No logoutd. > > No lines in /etc/porttime. Still get booted off the console > > after several hours. > > Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality. That was it. Thanks. -Mitch pgpX6KoCNOIAA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote: > FWIW - I have the same problem. No idled. No logoutd. > No lines in /etc/porttime. Still get booted off the console > after several hours. Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org pgpwlQQ9mmyXl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: login time limits in slink???
Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > > > > Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users. > > Idled is a "daemon" that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current > > users. If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on > > for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately. > > yeah, i know about idled. i even package a similar daemon for debian > (timeoutd). > > i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine > in question. that was the first thing i thought of. > > this idle timeout only seems to occur for logins on a serial line (both > terminal and ppp logins), never on console or a pty. > > thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help. this problem seems > specific to slink...perhaps a new login binary does it. > FWIW - I have the same problem. No idled. No logoutd. No lines in /etc/porttime. Still get booted off the console after several hours. -Mitch pgpGqV4sGPNWH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: login time limits in slink???
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > > > > Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users. > > Idled is a "daemon" that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current > > users. If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on > > for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately. > > yeah, i know about idled. i even package a similar daemon for debian > (timeoutd). > > i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine > in question. that was the first thing i thought of. Maybe autolog, it's in hamm too though. autolog - Terminates connections for idle users - Tom
Re: login time limits in slink???
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > time limits on serial lines? > > i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, > /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere. > > how do i turn it off? i don't want time limits. I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users. Idled is a "daemon" that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current users. If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately. -- __ \/ o\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edinburgh fetish club Permission \ / /\__/ Paul Crowley Nov 8 http://www.hedonism.demon.co.uk/permission /~\
Re: login time limits in slink???
On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > time limits on serial lines? > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > > Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users. > Idled is a "daemon" that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current > users. If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on > for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately. yeah, i know about idled. i even package a similar daemon for debian (timeoutd). i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine in question. that was the first thing i thought of. this idle timeout only seems to occur for logins on a serial line (both terminal and ppp logins), never on console or a pty. thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help. this problem seems specific to slink...perhaps a new login binary does it. craig -- craig sanders
login time limits in slink???
anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily time limits on serial lines? i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere. how do i turn it off? i don't want time limits. craig -- craig sanders
