Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
Adrian von Bidder wrote: If you believe their advertisement, Exabytes VXA tapes are a cost-effective solution, compared to other tape solutions. I have no experience with them, I just thought I'd point you in that direction if you haven't investigated them yet. I used some of these a few years ago. Their technology always seemed very good. The drives were fast(er) than other stuff we had at the time, and they seemed to just work. (The hassle factor was low.) I don't know if I'd use them today or AIT. Nate
Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
On Saturday 08 January 2005 17.46, Michelle Konzack wrote: [Tapes] My only problem is that my purse is very limited to =700 Euro. If you believe their advertisement, Exabytes VXA tapes are a cost-effective solution, compared to other tape solutions. I have no experience with them, I just thought I'd point you in that direction if you haven't investigated them yet. -- vbi -- Today is Setting Orange, the 10th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3171
Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 17:46 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Because my old DAT is not more enough, I consider to buy a DLT with 80-160 GByte. Because I have no experience with it, I like to here some suggestions. My only problem is that my purse is very limited to =700 Euro. DLT is a quite expensive way to backup, especially considering the price of the tapes (50-100 euros). Depending on how many backups and how much data you want to keep around it might be interesting to look at other solutions (External harddrives, dvd, maybe blue-ray next year). Since harddrives run at about 100 euro's for 200 GB it's quite hard to beat those prices. Are the DLT only SCSI or do they exist in PATA and SATA too ? So far I've only seen SCSI versions, I'd think SATA is still quite far off for DLT (as there aren't even many cd/dvd drives on sata yet) -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant PGP: 0x357D2178 Skype: markmjanssen ICQ: 129696007 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
Hello Michelle On 2005-01-08 Michelle Konzack wrote: Because my old DAT is not more enough, I consider to buy a DLT with 80-160 GByte. Because I have no experience with it, I like to here some suggestions. My only problem is that my purse is very limited to =700 Euro. Why not take a couple of 180,- EUR external USB 2.0 harddisks with about 200GB each? Fast, also in restore, cheap and easy to manage. At least compared to DDS3 tapes the ones from Maxtor do not have a significant higher failure percentage (maybe combine exclusures and harddisc yourself to choose the harddisk brand, you trust the most). Michelle bye, -christian- -- Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most -nesmad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
Am 2005-01-08 18:11:34, schrieb Mark Janssen: DLT is a quite expensive way to backup, especially considering the price of the tapes (50-100 euros). Depending on how many backups and how much data you want to keep around it might be interesting to look at other solutions (External harddrives, dvd, maybe blue-ray next year). Since harddrives run at about 100 euro's for 200 GB it's quite hard to beat those prices. Curently I have a backup server with a 3Ware SATA Raid-5 and 4 Hitachi 400 GByte HDDs plus my HP-DDS3. It is connected to a second (backup) network. The 1,2 TByte diskspace are enough to make 4 weeks backup. Each week one FULL and six INCREMENTAL backup. The problem is, that I am already using 400 GByte HDDs in External cases but the 5 1/4 enclosure are to big for the Bank-Tresor (only 4) and I was looking for smaller Media. DVD9 is not an option, because the poor quality and the number of DVDs. Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)
Because my old DAT is not more enough, I consider to buy a DLT with 80-160 GByte. Because I have no experience with it, I like to here some suggestions. My only problem is that my purse is very limited to =700 Euro. Are the DLT only SCSI or do they exist in PATA and SATA too ? I just looked into this a little myself and ended up going with an AIT tape drive. My understanding is that because they have helical scan heads, the drives are smaller and use less power. (The tape speed doesn't have to be as fast so you don't need as big of motors - or something like that.) I just ordered this drive: http://coastalmicrosupply.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=446 (Not as big as what you're talking about though!) Tapes are very expensive new. I've already bought some (used) from ebay. They look to be in very good shape and ran about $5 apiece. Obviously I'll run a verify them when I get the drive in. (If you buy tapes from ebay make sure you understand what you're getting - I've seen some 2G AIT tapes for sale - I had no idea tapes that small even existed!) FWIW, I run a variety of backup strategies. For really big data, I just go with the multiple hard drive approach. (Where n == 2.) For full backups of my server, I like tape as I can drop a tape in my safety deposit box from time to time. Then it's a matter of organizing things to make sure the appropriate backup happens automatically. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://the-martins.org/~dmartin signature.asc Description: Digital signature