Re: Re[2]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-21 Thread Mailing List

Well I CAN see the point of these DNS services (free and paid).

Sure.. you can set up some additional servers in your datacenter or network,
but thats the point... it is CONNECTED to your own network!

Suppose your network dies... some router or switch blows. Then what? All the
additional 486s or Xeons behind your network will be rather pointless. Or a
power failure strikes (think of the brownouts/blackouts affecting california
now... i'm in HK so don't ask me for the details), then what?

However, if you have some servers on some OTHER network, at least they'll
still be up and running, right?

That is the main point of all this.

We at Zentek International Co. Limited (
http://www.zentek-international.com) have been looking for someone to
exchange DNS secondaries for a while, without success. We operate from Hong
Kong, so if you're in the US or anywhere else that is the ULTIMATE in
redundancy (half way around the world is as good as you get ;-)  ). Email me
if you're interested :-)

Jason.

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> Yep, ya get what you pay for, eh?
>
> A couple of old 486's can easily act as proper BIND servers for hundreds
> of zones.  I don't know why people even bother with the free servers.
> :)
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:40:34AM +0800, Mailing List wrote:
> > granitecanyon.com is dead half the time or really slow to reply to
queries.
> >
> > centralinfo.net isn't accepting any new applications.
> >
> > I know they are free and we shouldn't complain. What you pay is what you
> > get, right?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nate Duehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:31:33AM -0700, Kevin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net
> > > >
> > > >   Both free, both very dependable.
> > >
> > > Granite Canyon reliable?  You need to read some of the archives of the
> > > bind-isc mailing list.  Complaint after complaint.
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Re: Re[2]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-21 Thread Mailing List

granitecanyon.com is dead half the time or really slow to reply to queries.

centralinfo.net isn't accepting any new applications.

I know they are free and we shouldn't complain. What you pay is what you
get, right?

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To: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, 21 January, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Back-up DNS?


> On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:31:33AM -0700, Kevin wrote:
> >
> >   http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net
> >
> >   Both free, both very dependable.
>
> Granite Canyon reliable?  You need to read some of the archives of the
> bind-isc mailing list.  Complaint after complaint.
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Re: Re[2]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-20 Thread Nate Duehr

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:31:33AM -0700, Kevin wrote:
> 
>   http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net
> 
>   Both free, both very dependable.

Granite Canyon reliable?  You need to read some of the archives of the
bind-isc mailing list.  Complaint after complaint.

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RE: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Brendon B wrote:

> I agree.  I'll trade backup mail and DNS with someone!

ditto.  I have a fast conenction to a very lightly loaded server.  Run
exim.  I will hold mail for you, standard 5 days, not mail from you.

-- Ghane

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>  -Original Message-
> From: Duane Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:53 AM
> To:   Bulent Murtezaoglu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Back-up DNS?
> 
> I've been looking for the same thing.  I really wouldn't mind finding
> someone who'd let me put a box at his place. 'cuz if my dns goes, so
> goes my website, *critical* mail services and everything else. And I'd
> be willing to do the same in return.
> 
> 
> ~duane
> 
> Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:
> 
> > Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?
> >
> > Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
> > personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
> > at one point or another and didn't know it!
> >
> > Maybe the question to ask is should a bunch of us start such a service
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > BM
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RE: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Brendon B

I agree.  I'll trade backup mail and DNS with someone!

 -Original Message-
From:   Duane Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:53 AM
To: Bulent Murtezaoglu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: Back-up DNS?

I've been looking for the same thing.  I really wouldn't mind finding
someone who'd let me put a box at his place. 'cuz if my dns goes, so
goes my website, *critical* mail services and everything else. And I'd
be willing to do the same in return.


~duane

Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:

> Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?
>
> Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
> personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
> at one point or another and didn't know it!
>
> Maybe the question to ask is should a bunch of us start such a service
>
> cheers,
>
> BM
>
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Re: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Andreas Edler

Hello,

Bulent Murtezaoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?

We do offer such a service.  100 DEM (~ 50 US-$) per month for each
500 domains, administration via web-interface.

Shalom!
  .\ndreas

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Re[3]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin


  So use both, if you have 4 nameservers + however many you have, its
  fairly tough for them all to go down.

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> Kevin>   http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net
> Kevin>   Both free, both very dependable.

> Hmm, this from http://granitecanyon.com/status.shtml

> --- Included text
> 6 January 2001

> We have been experiencing router problems for the past two days as our 4-port 10/100 
>ethernet card failed. This is a
> consequence of much of our hardware being cobbled together from various "pre-owned" 
>sources, chiefly donations (thank you)
> and ebay. This inaccessibility has prevented new updates and access to soa and ns1, 
>but ns2 has been serving DNS queries
> throughout this time. 
> --- end included text

> God bless these folks for their honesty.  But you do get what you pay
> for, mostly.

> cheers,

> BM


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Re[2]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Bulent Murtezaoglu


Kevin>   http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net
Kevin>   Both free, both very dependable.

Hmm, this from http://granitecanyon.com/status.shtml

--- Included text
6 January 2001

We have been experiencing router problems for the past two days as our 4-port 10/100 
ethernet card failed. This is a
consequence of much of our hardware being cobbled together from various "pre-owned" 
sources, chiefly donations (thank you)
and ebay. This inaccessibility has prevented new updates and access to soa and ns1, 
but ns2 has been serving DNS queries
throughout this time. 
--- end included text

God bless these folks for their honesty.  But you do get what you pay
for, mostly.

cheers,

BM


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Re[2]: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin


  http://granitecanyon.com http://centralinfo.net

  Both free, both very dependable.

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> Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?
>> 
>> Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
>> personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
>> at one point or another and didn't know it!

>   We provide backup (or primary) DNS as a service for $10/month/domain.
> If a customer had a bizillion domains that they needed DNS for we would
> work out a flat fee.

>   Sorry its not free but we have to pay for the beer *somehow*!

> Pete


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Re: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Duane Powers

I've been looking for the same thing.  I really wouldn't mind finding 
someone who'd let me put a box at his place. 'cuz if my dns goes, so 
goes my website, *critical* mail services and everything else. And I'd 
be willing to do the same in return.


~duane

Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:

> Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?
> 
> Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
> personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
> at one point or another and didn't know it!  
> 
> Maybe the question to ask is should a bunch of us start such a service
>
> cheers,
> 
> BM
> 
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Re: Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Peter Billson

Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:
> 
> Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?
> 
> Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
> personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
> at one point or another and didn't know it!

  We provide backup (or primary) DNS as a service for $10/month/domain.
If a customer had a bizillion domains that they needed DNS for we would
work out a flat fee.

  Sorry its not free but we have to pay for the beer *somehow*!

Pete


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Back-up DNS?

2001-01-07 Thread Bulent Murtezaoglu


Is there a good company you folks are using for back-up DNS service?

Ordinarily I'd just ask an acquaintance, but all the admins I
personally know who'd go for this have screwed up their name servers
at one point or another and didn't know it!  

Maybe the question to ask is should a bunch of us start such a service
   
cheers,

BM


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