Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Fred Clausen
Hi all,

I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
production systems are web/database systems.

Also, do packages in testing get updated as security vulnerabilies occur?
or only when the maintainers wish to upload a newer version?

Regards, Fred.

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Re: Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Lijftogt


Hi Fred,

The first bit I can't say much about.. it's woody all the way here, but
planning is made on bringen sarge in our env., but that's a long way from
here.

About the security updates. No, there is a security administration within
Debian, but I read that they only work on the current stable version. When
there is a update, the maintainer wil issue the new release, and not the
security team, but they work together.. in any case.

http://www.debian.org/security/faq


Cheers,
Mark

 
 Hi all,
 
 I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
 currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
 depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
 experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
 problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
 production systems are web/database systems.
 
 Also, do packages in testing get updated as security vulnerabilies occur?
 or only when the maintainers wish to upload a newer version?
 
 Regards, Fred.
 
 --
 Fred Clausen - Systems Administrator
 Unique Interactive, part of UBC Media Group plc
 Winners of the 2002 CRCA NTL New Media Award
 
 http://www.ubcmedia.com
 http://www.uniqueinteractive.co.uk
 T: +44 (0)20 7453 1677 F: +44 (0)20 7486 5081
 
 
 
 
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Re: Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Teun Vink
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Fred Clausen wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
 currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
 depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
 experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
 problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
 production systems are web/database systems.
 

Hi,

We try to minimize the use of testing, but in some cases we had no real
other option, since we really needed woody stuff when potato was still
stable, and backporting would imply backporting way too many packages to
keep the systems stable.

Up 'till now, we haven't had many problems with running testing in
production, although I must say that we started using testing (before
woody was released), when it was pretty mature.

For now, all we're still planning to migrate some of our more complicated
machines to woody. We're not running testing on production machines yet,
and I don't see many reasons for now to do so, but all will depend on how
fast Debian will release their next release...



Teun



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Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Fred Clausen
Hi all,

I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
production systems are web/database systems.

Also, do packages in testing get updated as security vulnerabilies occur?
or only when the maintainers wish to upload a newer version?

Regards, Fred.

--
Fred Clausen - Systems Administrator
Unique Interactive, part of UBC Media Group plc
Winners of the 2002 CRCA NTL New Media Award

http://www.ubcmedia.com
http://www.uniqueinteractive.co.uk
T: +44 (0)20 7453 1677 F: +44 (0)20 7486 5081






Re: Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Lijftogt


Hi Fred,

The first bit I can't say much about.. it's woody all the way here, but
planning is made on bringen sarge in our env., but that's a long way from
here.

About the security updates. No, there is a security administration within
Debian, but I read that they only work on the current stable version. When
there is a update, the maintainer wil issue the new release, and not the
security team, but they work together.. in any case.

http://www.debian.org/security/faq


Cheers,
Mark

 
 Hi all,
 
 I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
 currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
 depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
 experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
 problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
 production systems are web/database systems.
 
 Also, do packages in testing get updated as security vulnerabilies occur?
 or only when the maintainers wish to upload a newer version?
 
 Regards, Fred.
 
 --
 Fred Clausen - Systems Administrator
 Unique Interactive, part of UBC Media Group plc
 Winners of the 2002 CRCA NTL New Media Award
 
 http://www.ubcmedia.com
 http://www.uniqueinteractive.co.uk
 T: +44 (0)20 7453 1677 F: +44 (0)20 7486 5081
 
 
 
 
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Re: Using testing (sarge) in production.

2002-10-29 Thread Teun Vink
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Fred Clausen wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I read Teun Vink's posting about his Apache problems with unstable. I am
 currently using a mixture of stable and testing in production systems,
 depending on which versions of the applications I require. What are your
 experiences with testing in production environments? I have not had any
 problems but I would like to know others' experience. Most of our
 production systems are web/database systems.
 

Hi,

We try to minimize the use of testing, but in some cases we had no real
other option, since we really needed woody stuff when potato was still
stable, and backporting would imply backporting way too many packages to
keep the systems stable.

Up 'till now, we haven't had many problems with running testing in
production, although I must say that we started using testing (before
woody was released), when it was pretty mature.

For now, all we're still planning to migrate some of our more complicated
machines to woody. We're not running testing on production machines yet,
and I don't see many reasons for now to do so, but all will depend on how
fast Debian will release their next release...



Teun