RE: webmail for debian

2002-02-08 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've been using Silkymail from http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail.  It's a 
modified version of IMP that has a very smooth user interface (it's very 
similar to the Mulberry email client, which I also use and like very much). 
Installation is either a (relative) breeze or a nightmare.  It's a breeze 
if you're installing on an otherwise barren machine because the tarball 
includes about six different packages -- apache, SSL, uw-imap, imp, and 
gawd-knows-what-else -- which it installs under its own directory tree. 
The nightmare comes in if you already have some of those tools installed in 
other places on your system.  But it can be made to work.

The version I'm running right now is 1.1.x.  1.2 is out, and I was told 
several weeks ago that 1.3 is imminent, but there's no sign of it at the 
web site yet.

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Try horde / imp
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does anybody know some webmail system for debian?
Thanks
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RE: webmail for debian

2002-02-08 Thread Bodó
Try IMP
http://www.horde.org/

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 does anybody know some webmail system for debian?
 
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Re: webmail for debian

2002-02-08 Thread ragnar
Hi,

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 does anybody know some webmail system for debian?

Yes,

And for the all important,

What is the best one?

I do not know.

We have used IMP 2.x for more than a year
and has worked well.
We use it with postgres and set it for
IMAP to only one domain / mail server.

It's what I use to read my mail.

As I had some problems in the install I would recomend
seting up the SQL (postgres) server before installing IMP.

There are some things I do not like about IMP but it
looks like IMP 3 is much better. (not.deb yet)

Best
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Re: webmail for debian

2002-02-08 Thread daniel
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 02:52:29PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 does anybody know some webmail system for debian?
 
 Thanks
 
 Josep
 
 
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I lately have been using squirrelmail, and there are also imp and
aeromail.

The first and third are the easiest to use...

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Re: webmail for debian

2002-02-08 Thread rudi
Hi,

We are very happy using openwebmail
Cheers.
Rudi.
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 Hi,

 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  does anybody know some webmail system for debian?

 Yes,

 And for the all important,

 What is the best one?

 I do not know.

 We have used IMP 2.x for more than a year
 and has worked well.
 We use it with postgres and set it for
 IMAP to only one domain / mail server.

 It's what I use to read my mail.

 As I had some problems in the install I would recomend
 seting up the SQL (postgres) server before installing IMP.

 There are some things I do not like about IMP but it
 looks like IMP 3 is much better. (not.deb yet)

 Best
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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-21 Thread Robert Waldner


On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:08:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree! I have squirrelmail (which is still broken in Debian),
...

What exactly is broken in squirrelmail? Works just fine here:
ii  cyrus-admin1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (administration tool)
ii  cyrus-common   1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (common files)
ii  cyrus-imapd1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (IMAP support)
ii  cyrus-pop3d1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (POP3 support)
ii  squirrelmail   1.2.2-1Webmail for nuts
ii  php4   4.0.3pl1-0pota A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting langu

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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Sailer

On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 05:14, Robert Waldner wrote:
 
 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:08:46 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I agree! I have squirrelmail (which is still broken in Debian),
 ...
 
 What exactly is broken in squirrelmail? Works just fine here:

I'm running unstable for a number of reasons, and for the last two
uploaded versions, you can't even log in.

Tim

 ii  cyrus-admin1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (administration tool)
 ii  cyrus-common   1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (common files)
 ii  cyrus-imapd1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (IMAP support)
 ii  cyrus-pop3d1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (POP3 support)
 ii  squirrelmail   1.2.2-1Webmail for nuts
 ii  php4   4.0.3pl1-0pota A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting langu
 
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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-20 Thread Donovan Baarda

On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 02:37:37PM +1100, CaT wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 09:44:34PM -0500, Gene Grimm wrote:
  Does anyone know of a open source package for providing access to a POP3
  mail box via a web interface?
 
 Imp works great. www.horde.org
 
 I believe there are debian packages available.

I have not tried anything else, but use IMP and am fairly committed to it.
Having said that, I would hesitate to recomend it. Sure it works great, but
it feels a little clumzy. It also feels too big and ... messy.

The Debian packages are OK, but do not work painlessly if you are using
Postgres. I have not yet filed any bugs because the whole beast that is
horde is now split into so many support packages that I'm not sure which one
is at fault.

If anyone does decide to go down the IMP on Debian path using woody, I can
probably help anyone that hits problems. 


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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-20 Thread CaT

On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:59:06PM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 02:37:37PM +1100, CaT wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 09:44:34PM -0500, Gene Grimm wrote:
   Does anyone know of a open source package for providing access to a POP3
   mail box via a web interface?
  
  Imp works great. www.horde.org
  
  I believe there are debian packages available.
 
 I have not tried anything else, but use IMP and am fairly committed to it.

Me too. :)

 Having said that, I would hesitate to recomend it. Sure it works great, but
 it feels a little clumzy. It also feels too big and ... messy.

Which version? 2.2.7 or 3.0?

 The Debian packages are OK, but do not work painlessly if you are using
 Postgres. I have not yet filed any bugs because the whole beast that is

I didn't use the debian packages. I always compile my own apache and so
that whole line of reasoning is out the window. :)

In my setup IMP works great with postgres. Either 2.2.7 or 3.0.

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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-19 Thread Tim Moss

Apparently, on Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 09:44:34PM -0500, Gene Grimm wrote:
 Does anyone know of a open source package for providing access to a POP3
 mail box via a web interface?
 
I just setup openwebmail (http://openwebmail.org/) and it's working out
very well. It's only been a couple days but, so far, I recommend it.
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Re: PPOP3 Webmail

2002-01-19 Thread John Gonzalez, Tularosa Communications

Ahhh yes, i missed that. It does require IMAP..

We held off on IMAP for a long time, but finally gave in. Installed an
IMAP server, which was painless and havent looked back.

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On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Gene Grimm wrote:

 John Gonzalez, Tularosa Communications wrote:
 
  We have been using squirrelmail and it is working great.
 
  http://www.squirrelmail.org

 I thought squirrelmail required IMAP, or did I not see the POP3 support
 notice on their web site. I checked the squirrelmail site earlier but
 the requirements only listed IMAP.


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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-13 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

 I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.

GNU mailutils (libmailbox) has IMAP support. It is still in development.
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/


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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-13 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
 
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jeremy Lunn wrote:
 
  On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
   Of course, I know...
   But our middle-tier will be developed using C++ , AFAIK.
   That's why I asked about c-client library...
 
  I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.
 
 Sure, but I'd like to check if there are any alternatives to
 c-client. IMHO it's poorly documented.

You may have already looked at this, but what does Mutt use?  It does
IMAP, and I get the impression that stuff was done from scratch.




Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-13 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
 I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.

GNU mailutils (libmailbox) has IMAP support. It is still in development.
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/


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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Russell Coker

On Sunday 10 June 2001 17:16, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
 1. Almost every available webmail system uses the following way of
 handling (rreceiving, in this example) attachements: load the whole
 message body from IMAP server or message file, decode it and send to
 the client.
 The _whole_ attachement gets loaded into server's RAM. Isn't it waste
 of resources/ killing the server ?
 I think it should read/decode/send the attachement on a line-by-line
 (or part-by-part generaly) manner. Am I right ?

That depends what your average message size is.  If you have some 
unlikely situation such as people using the webmail system for no other 
purpose than to send messages with Word documents attached then that 
would be a serious performance issue.

However my experience is that average message sizes tend to be around 10K 
to 20K.  When you consider the overhead of an Apache process, the kernel 
buffers for a connected socket, the data used for the PHP or Perl 
interpreter, etc then 20K of message probably isn't a large proportion of 
the memory in use for the connection.

 2. Which one is better - accessing maildirs directly, or using IMAP ?
  I can see that IMAP seems to be more scalable / universal... Maildirs
 probably can be much faster to work with directly, but probably less
 secure...
 Any other pros/contras ?

One issue is that when using IMAP the WebMail system can consider that 
anyone with the correct credentials to connect to IMAP can access the 
account.  That means that all the password checking code is in the IMAP 
and POP servers.  If you access the Maildir directly then it's a third 
place.

Another thing, do the webmail systems use directory notifications?  With 
directory notifications the application can be informed by the kernel 
when new files are created.  The IMAP protocol supports announcing new 
mail to the client.  If the mail store and the webmail system are on 
separate machines then IMAP is the only way to avoid polling for new mail 
(AFAIK directory notifications don't work over NFS).

 3. I'm going to develop the front-end  using Apache::ASP or php, not
 decided yet, and access the mails through the middle-tier daemon.
 The question is - is it a good way to use persistent IMAP connections ?
 If so, there will be no overhead of authentication on every operation,
 but there can be many open IMAP connections to the local imap server
 (probably Courier-IMAP) at the same time.
 Which strategy is better ?

So now you're planning to write your own webmail program?

I suggest that when a user logs in they get an IMAP connection.  An 
option to have the IMAP connection timeout and be closed before the 
webmail system times out (webmail timeout on no activity should be long 
like 30 minutes while IMAP timeout should be 10 minutes at most) would be 
handy, but isn't required.  But generally IMAP connections should stay 
open for the duration of the session.


Good luck!

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jeremy Lunn wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
  Of course, I know... 
  But our middle-tier will be developed using C++ , AFAIK.
  That's why I asked about c-client library...
 
 I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.

Sure, but I'd like to check if there are any alternatives to
c-client. IMHO it's poorly documented.
Probably I need to dig  its source code...

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 10 June 2001 17:16, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
 1. Almost every available webmail system uses the following way of
 handling (rreceiving, in this example) attachements: load the whole
 message body from IMAP server or message file, decode it and send to
 the client.
 The _whole_ attachement gets loaded into server's RAM. Isn't it waste
 of resources/ killing the server ?
 I think it should read/decode/send the attachement on a line-by-line
 (or part-by-part generaly) manner. Am I right ?

That depends what your average message size is.  If you have some 
unlikely situation such as people using the webmail system for no other 
purpose than to send messages with Word documents attached then that 
would be a serious performance issue.

However my experience is that average message sizes tend to be around 10K 
to 20K.  When you consider the overhead of an Apache process, the kernel 
buffers for a connected socket, the data used for the PHP or Perl 
interpreter, etc then 20K of message probably isn't a large proportion of 
the memory in use for the connection.

 2. Which one is better - accessing maildirs directly, or using IMAP ?
  I can see that IMAP seems to be more scalable / universal... Maildirs
 probably can be much faster to work with directly, but probably less
 secure...
 Any other pros/contras ?

One issue is that when using IMAP the WebMail system can consider that 
anyone with the correct credentials to connect to IMAP can access the 
account.  That means that all the password checking code is in the IMAP 
and POP servers.  If you access the Maildir directly then it's a third 
place.

Another thing, do the webmail systems use directory notifications?  With 
directory notifications the application can be informed by the kernel 
when new files are created.  The IMAP protocol supports announcing new 
mail to the client.  If the mail store and the webmail system are on 
separate machines then IMAP is the only way to avoid polling for new mail 
(AFAIK directory notifications don't work over NFS).

 3. I'm going to develop the front-end  using Apache::ASP or php, not
 decided yet, and access the mails through the middle-tier daemon.
 The question is - is it a good way to use persistent IMAP connections ?
 If so, there will be no overhead of authentication on every operation,
 but there can be many open IMAP connections to the local imap server
 (probably Courier-IMAP) at the same time.
 Which strategy is better ?

So now you're planning to write your own webmail program?

I suggest that when a user logs in they get an IMAP connection.  An 
option to have the IMAP connection timeout and be closed before the 
webmail system times out (webmail timeout on no activity should be long 
like 30 minutes while IMAP timeout should be 10 minutes at most) would be 
handy, but isn't required.  But generally IMAP connections should stay 
open for the duration of the session.


Good luck!

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Russell Coker wrote:

 Another thing, do the webmail systems use directory notifications?  With 
 directory notifications the application can be informed by the kernel 
 when new files are created.  The IMAP protocol supports announcing new 
 mail to the client.  If the mail store and the webmail system are on 
 separate machines then IMAP is the only way to avoid polling for new mail 
 (AFAIK directory notifications don't work over NFS).

Thanx, I didn't know this feature... Acctually, I'm not so familiar with
IMAP protocol yet...
 
 So now you're planning to write your own webmail program?

Yes, we need some nonusuall features...
 
 I suggest that when a user logs in they get an IMAP connection.  An 
 option to have the IMAP connection timeout and be closed before the 
 webmail system times out (webmail timeout on no activity should be long 
 like 30 minutes while IMAP timeout should be 10 minutes at most) would be 
 handy, but isn't required.  But generally IMAP connections should stay 
 open for the duration of the session.

That's as I see it, thanx..
All the actual logic will be implemented in the middle tier daemon(s).

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
 Thanx, I didn't know this feature... Acctually, I'm not so familiar with
 IMAP protocol yet...

Depending what language you use you won't need to know the IMAP
protocol.  Things like perl and php have IMAP modules.

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jeremy Lunn wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
  Thanx, I didn't know this feature... Acctually, I'm not so familiar with
  IMAP protocol yet...
 
 Depending what language you use you won't need to know the IMAP
 protocol.  Things like perl and php have IMAP modules.

Of course, I know... 
But our middle-tier will be developed using C++ , AFAIK.
That's why I asked about c-client library...

-=Czaj-nick=-





Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jeremy Lunn wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
  Of course, I know... 
  But our middle-tier will be developed using C++ , AFAIK.
  That's why I asked about c-client library...
 
 I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.

Sure, but I'd like to check if there are any alternatives to
c-client. IMHO it's poorly documented.
Probably I need to dig  its source code...

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Re: Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-12 Thread Vector
http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libc-client4.7.html

The above is a c client library for imap written by the University of
Washington (not sure, but I don't think that package is the latest version
but you can get the source from UW if you want).

vector



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 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
  Of course, I know...
  But our middle-tier will be developed using C++ , AFAIK.
  That's why I asked about c-client library...

 I would be pretty surprised if there is no c library for IMAP as well.

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Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-10 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


We are going to develop web-mail system, that's capable of handling
relatively high loads. I know, there are many open source web-mail systems
, but they doesn't satisfy me. Almost every  falls into one of two
cateogries: php based, using imap; perl cgi based, using IMAP or direct
filesystem access...

I'd like someone experienced with such systems help me with the following:

1. Almost every available webmail system uses the following way of
handling (rreceiving, in this example) attachements: load the whole
message body from IMAP server or message file, decode it and send to the
client.
The _whole_ attachement gets loaded into server's RAM. Isn't it waste of
resources/ killing the server ? 
I think it should read/decode/send the attachement on a line-by-line (or
part-by-part generaly) manner. Am I right ?

2. Which one is better - accessing maildirs directly, or using IMAP ?
 I can see that IMAP seems to be more scalable / universal... Maildirs
probably can be much faster to work with directly, but probably less
secure... 
Any other pros/contras ?

3. I'm going to develop the front-end  using Apache::ASP or php, not
decided yet, and access the mails through the middle-tier daemon.
The question is - is it a good way to use persistent IMAP connections ? If
so, there will be no overhead of authentication on every operation, but
there can be many open IMAP connections to the local imap server
(probably Courier-IMAP) at the same time.
Which strategy is better ?

4. Are there any libraries similar to c-client, maybe some C++ ones ?

5. Does c-client library allow to retrieve the message body
(attachements) partialy  (see 1) ? 
I've seen some /tmp access in its source code - does it dowload whole
message to /tmp ?

Hmm, that's all for now...

TIA

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Webmail - considerations...

2001-06-10 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn

We are going to develop web-mail system, that's capable of handling
relatively high loads. I know, there are many open source web-mail systems
, but they doesn't satisfy me. Almost every  falls into one of two
cateogries: php based, using imap; perl cgi based, using IMAP or direct
filesystem access...

I'd like someone experienced with such systems help me with the following:

1. Almost every available webmail system uses the following way of
handling (rreceiving, in this example) attachements: load the whole
message body from IMAP server or message file, decode it and send to the
client.
The _whole_ attachement gets loaded into server's RAM. Isn't it waste of
resources/ killing the server ? 
I think it should read/decode/send the attachement on a line-by-line (or
part-by-part generaly) manner. Am I right ?

2. Which one is better - accessing maildirs directly, or using IMAP ?
 I can see that IMAP seems to be more scalable / universal... Maildirs
probably can be much faster to work with directly, but probably less
secure... 
Any other pros/contras ?

3. I'm going to develop the front-end  using Apache::ASP or php, not
decided yet, and access the mails through the middle-tier daemon.
The question is - is it a good way to use persistent IMAP connections ? If
so, there will be no overhead of authentication on every operation, but
there can be many open IMAP connections to the local imap server
(probably Courier-IMAP) at the same time.
Which strategy is better ?

4. Are there any libraries similar to c-client, maybe some C++ ones ?

5. Does c-client library allow to retrieve the message body
(attachements) partialy  (see 1) ? 
I've seen some /tmp access in its source code - does it dowload whole
message to /tmp ?

Hmm, that's all for now...

TIA

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Re: webmail

2001-04-18 Thread Pontus Ullgren

We use a the following combo:
Apache with mod_ssl (http://www.apache.org/)
IMAP server pick any you like (we run courier www.courier-mta.org)
and SquirrelMail (http://www.squirrelmail.org/)
I find SquirrelMail alot faster than IMP (but it lacks some of the
features you can find in IMP).

If you run Courier there is a webmail included in the Courier-MTA
suite. I haven't tried it, yet.

 Hello,

 Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
 Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
 telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
 appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: webmail

2001-04-18 Thread John Ackermann

--On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:04 AM +0200 Przemyslaw Wegrzyn 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

  I want to recommend you IMP. You can set IMAP server on firewall and
  IMP/Horde.

 I've been playing with SilkyMail (http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail),
 which  is an enhanced version of IMP.  It's under the GPL, but Cyrusoft
 are  offering commercial support packages for it.  I'm very impressed,
 and  (under the right circumstances, which mine weren't) it's a snap to
 build as  all the tools (apache, php, etc.) are included in the tarball
 and a single  make command builds the whole environment.  Then you untar
 the php files  into the htdocs directory, run a config script, and
 you're in business.

I can't answer on how attachments are processed on receive/send.  I have 
tried looking at Word documents using wvHtml and it seems to work OK, but I 
don't know what kind of load it puts on the server.  By the way -- wvHtml 
handles more formats than the old mswordview, but still spits out quite a 
few error messages, and fails on some documents.  It's still a whole lot 
better than nothing, though.

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webmail

2001-04-17 Thread Theodore Alexandrov


Hello,

Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: webmail

2001-04-17 Thread Peter Novodvorsky

Hello, Theo!

Theodore Alexandrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
 Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
 telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
 appreciated.

I want to recommend you IMP. You can set IMAP server on firewall and
IMP/Horde.

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RE: webmail

2001-04-17 Thread Franck GUILLOIS

imp: http://www.horde.org/imp/

HTH

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 Objet : webmail
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
 Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
 telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
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webmail

2001-04-17 Thread Theodore Alexandrov

Hello,

Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
appreciated.

Thanks,
-- 
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RE: webmail

2001-04-17 Thread Franck GUILLOIS
imp: http://www.horde.org/imp/

HTH

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 Envoye : mardi 17 avril 2001 21:00
 A : debian-isp@lists.debian.org
 Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Objet : webmail
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
 Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
 telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
 appreciated.
 
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Re: webmail

2001-04-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
--On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:24 PM +0400 Peter Novodvorsky 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello, Theo!
Theodore Alexandrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you advice some standart stuff for webmail server installing?
Some users need to read post outside our net and using Win-clients with
telnet (deny at firewall) and IE only. And all other solutions are
appreciated.
I want to recommend you IMP. You can set IMAP server on firewall and
IMP/Horde.
I've been playing with SilkyMail (http://www.cyrusoft.com/silkymail), which 
is an enhanced version of IMP.  It's under the GPL, but Cyrusoft are 
offering commercial support packages for it.  I'm very impressed, and 
(under the right circumstances, which mine weren't) it's a snap to build as 
all the tools (apache, php, etc.) are included in the tarball and a single 
make command builds the whole environment.  Then you untar the php files 
into the htdocs directory, run a config script, and you're in business.

John
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Re: webmail (2)

2000-07-20 Thread Sami Haahtinen
_How_ does it support https?

i'm running the imp from potato, via https...


On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 11:50:52AM +0200, Emilis wrote:
 Hi all
 Some words about webmail horde/imp
 I'm try to use imp debian package from potato
 (imp_2.2.0-3.potato.1.deb) And i have a problems with IE 5.x chache.
 Better way is to use
 dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/web/imp_2.2.0-5.deb
 It works perfectly, and supports https.
 Good luck.




Re: webmail service.

2000-07-19 Thread Daniel Free

Neomail is the best webmail programme i have come across yet, its what we 
run here. it isnt a debian package but it has a very clean install and is a 
very useable programme.

neomail.sourceforge.net

check it out

At 12:39 19/07/00 -0700, Scott Thompson wrote:
Hello all. I am looking for information or links to a webmail program. I am
running Debian 2.0.38 with apache. My linux administrator is quite firm
about 'debian released packages' so if there are any that fit into that
category, that would be best, if not, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated from any of you that have installed and maintain a service like
this.

My needs are low as well, I have about 350 active domains with about 1200
email accounts. I can't really see more that 25% of the users wanting the
service, but as you all know, in this day and age, it's the service and
features that make or break us!

Many Thanks

Scott Thompson
Programming  Server Admin
Internet Brokers Group
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webmail service.

2000-07-19 Thread Scott Thompson
Hello all. I am looking for information or links to a webmail program. I am
running Debian 2.0.38 with apache. My linux administrator is quite firm
about 'debian released packages' so if there are any that fit into that
category, that would be best, if not, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated from any of you that have installed and maintain a service like
this.

My needs are low as well, I have about 350 active domains with about 1200
email accounts. I can't really see more that 25% of the users wanting the
service, but as you all know, in this day and age, it's the service and
features that make or break us!

Many Thanks

Scott Thompson
Programming  Server Admin
Internet Brokers Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Office: (403) 232-1032
Fax: (403) 265-2843




Webmail service addition

2000-07-19 Thread Scott Thompson
I would prefer not to have to run *SQL etc. I ultimatly would like the
service to simply plug into my existing service. I do run mySQL but I really
don't want to pound that kind of overhead (on installation and maintenance
as well as sql server load).

Thanks again

Scott Thompson
Programming  Server Admin
Internet Brokers Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Office: (403) 232-1032
Fax: (403) 265-2843




Re: webmail service.

2000-07-19 Thread Daniel Free
Neomail is the best webmail programme i have come across yet, its what we 
run here. it isnt a debian package but it has a very clean install and is a 
very useable programme.

neomail.sourceforge.net
check it out
At 12:39 19/07/00 -0700, Scott Thompson wrote:
Hello all. I am looking for information or links to a webmail program. I am
running Debian 2.0.38 with apache. My linux administrator is quite firm
about 'debian released packages' so if there are any that fit into that
category, that would be best, if not, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated from any of you that have installed and maintain a service like
this.
My needs are low as well, I have about 350 active domains with about 1200
email accounts. I can't really see more that 25% of the users wanting the
service, but as you all know, in this day and age, it's the service and
features that make or break us!
Many Thanks
Scott Thompson
Programming  Server Admin
Internet Brokers Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.internetbrokers.ab.ca
Office: (403) 232-1032
Fax: (403) 265-2843
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Re: Webmail service addition

2000-07-19 Thread Daniel Free
ohh yea, neomail only needs perl suidperl and a cgi enabled webserver
At 13:23 19/07/00 -0700, Scott Thompson wrote:
I would prefer not to have to run *SQL etc. I ultimatly would like the
service to simply plug into my existing service. I do run mySQL but I really
don't want to pound that kind of overhead (on installation and maintenance
as well as sql server load).
Thanks again
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Programming  Server Admin
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Re: webmail service.

2000-07-19 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
IMP, with HORDE.  Debian package.  Requires MySQL, not for messages, but 
authentication of web login, not actual user login.

Works well. extremely stable.
At 12:39 PM 7/19/2000 -0700, Scott Thompson wrote:
Hello all. I am looking for information or links to a webmail program. I am
running Debian 2.0.38 with apache. My linux administrator is quite firm
about 'debian released packages' so if there are any that fit into that
category, that would be best, if not, any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated from any of you that have installed and maintain a service like
this.
My needs are low as well, I have about 350 active domains with about 1200
email accounts. I can't really see more that 25% of the users wanting the
service, but as you all know, in this day and age, it's the service and
features that make or break us!



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