Advice on deb package needed

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

if anyone has a tip for me how to easily create a .deb package out of 
customized configuration files that should go (with installing the .deb) to 
/etc/skel, so only data files, please let me know ASAP :-)

Thanks,

Ralf
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Re: OpenPGP Plugin

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 23:34, Oracle Administrator wrote:
> KMail complains when I click on certain messages with the dialog that the
> openpgp plugin is not installed.
>
> I am running Debian unstable and apt-get update nightly.
>
> How can I install this plugin?
That's quite complicated and is not yet available as a deb package. It is 
included in the Ägypten project that is connected to the S/MIME stuff.

http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten/
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>
> Robert

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Re: KMail Folder Disappeared!?!?!

2002-10-21 Thread Oracle Administrator
On Monday 21 October 2002 06:00 pm, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > > So in ~/Mail what are the permissions on the files (if mbox) or
> > > directories (if maildir) [and what are the permisssions on ~/Mail
> > > itself

drwx--S---4 oracle   oracle   4096 2002-10-21 17:34 Mail
-rw---1 oracle   oracle   3022742791 2002-10-20 20:12 Data

I don't have an Oracle database installed.  The user is called 'oracle' as I 
will install Oracle with the user oracle as the dba.

KMail is set to use store mail in directories (maildir files).  The maildir  
file the corresponds to the 'vanished' directory exists and can be cat'ed to 
view the contents.  From this, I reason that the maildir file needs to be 
imported back into KMail to restore the  directory.
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Robert




Re: why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks

2002-10-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Joey Hess wrote:

> Debian should follow the lead of every other major distro and offer the
> exact same menu layout throughout.
>
>   -- http://debianplanet.net/node.php?id=831
>
> I cannot help but shudder when I read that comment in this negative
> Debian review. We *led* the way: we wrote menu, we put everything in
> menu, we made every window manager (even twm, for crying out loud!) use
> menu. And then gnome and kde came along, and we threw all that out the
> window. No excuses: This stinks. We should be able to do much better.

Why, we never released our code to freshmeat, nor sourceforget(not a typo).




Re: koffice-dev what should it contain

2002-10-21 Thread Ben Burton

>From David Faure (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]), the reason the libkotext headers 
>aren't 
installed is:

> Because we cannot promise to keep binary compatibility in libkotext,
> its design is too much subject to change. Actually CVS HEAD is already BIC
> to koffice-1.2., due to many necessary changes. And bigger ones might come.
> libkotext isn't ready yet.

So it seems you'll need the koffice-libs sources around when you rebuild 
kpresenter.

Ben.

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Re: KMail Folder Disappeared!?!?!

2002-10-21 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Monday 21 October 2002 10:30 pm, you wrote:
> On Monday 21 October 2002 02:01 am, Alan Chandler wrote:
> 
>
> > So in ~/Mail what are the permissions on the files (if mbox) or
> > directories (if maildir) [and what are the permisssions on ~/Mail itself
>
> I checked in ~/Mail and the original KMail folder is still there,
> represented as a single LARGE file of mostly hex codes.  There were many
> images stored in the folder, so I know the "folder" is still intact and
> merely needs to be re-imported into KMail.
>
> How do I import the "file" into KMail as a folder full of messages?

Don't take this off the list, as there may be other people also interested in 
the thread.  And no need to copy me directly in replies as I am subscribed.

How about answering the question that I asked - ie what are the permissions on 
the files and the ~/Mail directory.

The error message that you quoted in an earlier message in this thread said 
that you didn't have sufficient permissions to do the operation (kmail 
automatically indexes the file).  I am just wondering whether you have 
somehow (when you installed Oracle?) changed the permissions accidentally.



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OpenPGP Plugin

2002-10-21 Thread Oracle Administrator
KMail complains when I click on certain messages with the dialog that the 
openpgp plugin is not installed.

I am running Debian unstable and apt-get update nightly.

How can I install this plugin?
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Robert




Re: kdm in HEAD package

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 20:31, Chris Cheney wrote:

Hmm...anyway, this is messed up the way it works now. I didn't notice as it 
worked for me up until now, but basically the way that kdm now reads the 
background settings is definetly out of order, so to speak. So it needs 
fixing before the release candidate comes out, because that really sucks if 
you're changing settings that seem to be ok in the control center but never 
work for real.

Ralf

> Ralf,
>
> I am not sure, kde just does it that way, if you look at what I am doing
> with the build it isn't anything special. I did modify
> kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf.c slightly so that it would generate a default
> debian config.  However as far as I can tell I did not modify anything
> wrt a backgroundrc, it just started getting generated a few months ago.
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:14:19PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I just noticed that the way kdm handles the background greeter settings
> > in debian has changed to a very non-standard way of writing it's own
> > backgroundrc into /etc/kde3/kdm/, while the way that also the control
> > center handles things is to do this inside /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.
> >
> > Is there a reason or intention why this got broke ? Otherwise, I'll have
> > a look into that over the coming days (guess thursday when most of my
> > other work is done and I only need to prepare my talks for LWE next
> > week).
> >
> > Ralf

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Re: cpu optimisation

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Monday 21 October 2002 20:38, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Every now and then I compile kde packages which didn't make it in the kde3
> distribution (yet). I usually make debian packages out of them, which
> involves nothing more then configuring the thing and running dh_make and
> dpkg-buildpackage in the source dir; then installing the .deb package .
>
> But debian has a habit of compiling everything so that it still runs on a
> 386. Since I am only installing those packages on my own machine, I would
> like to know what to manipulate to make these packages optimised for my cpu
> (athlon).
check out the rules files in KDE CVS, e.g. kdelibs/debian/rules.

Ralf
>
> Thx!
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cpu optimisation

2002-10-21 Thread Frank Van Damme

Hello,

Every now and then I compile kde packages which didn't make it in the kde3 
distribution (yet). I usually make debian packages out of them, which 
involves nothing more then configuring the thing and running dh_make and 
dpkg-buildpackage in the source dir; then installing the .deb package . 

But debian has a habit of compiling everything so that it still runs on a 386. 
Since I am only installing those packages on my own machine, I would like to 
know what to manipulate to make these packages optimised for my cpu (athlon). 

Thx!

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Re: kdm in HEAD package

2002-10-21 Thread Chris Cheney
Ralf,

I am not sure, kde just does it that way, if you look at what I am doing
with the build it isn't anything special. I did modify
kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf.c slightly so that it would generate a default
debian config.  However as far as I can tell I did not modify anything
wrt a backgroundrc, it just started getting generated a few months ago.

Chris

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:14:19PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I just noticed that the way kdm handles the background greeter settings in 
> debian has changed to a very non-standard way of writing it's own 
> backgroundrc into /etc/kde3/kdm/, while the way that also the control center 
> handles things is to do this inside /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.
> 
> Is there a reason or intention why this got broke ? Otherwise, I'll have a 
> look into that over the coming days (guess thursday when most of my other 
> work is done and I only need to prepare my talks for LWE next week).
> 
> Ralf




kdm in HEAD package

2002-10-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

I just noticed that the way kdm handles the background greeter settings in 
debian has changed to a very non-standard way of writing it's own 
backgroundrc into /etc/kde3/kdm/, while the way that also the control center 
handles things is to do this inside /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.

Is there a reason or intention why this got broke ? Otherwise, I'll have a 
look into that over the coming days (guess thursday when most of my other 
work is done and I only need to prepare my talks for LWE next week).

Ralf
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Re: compiling kde-apps without --prefix=/usr

2002-10-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Montag, 21. Oktober 2002 19:23 schrieb Thomas Ritter:
> if I understand it correctly, you want to separate packages from
> self-compiled binaries, but KDE likes to have all these things in one place
> ;)
> Just make a package. Go to the source dir of your app you want to compile
> and type "deb-make". A directory named debian/ is being created. Call
> "debian/rules binary" and your package will be created. Any configure
> options you want to set, you can set in the shell script debian/rules.

I'd rather vote for using dh_make to create the debian subdir and debuild (or 
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot) to acutally build the package. To get something 
useful, he should really edit those debian/* files, e.g. to have the right 
description :)

HS

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Re: koffice-dev what should it contain

2002-10-21 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Monday 21 October 2002 2:40 pm, Ben Burton wrote:
> > 2) To question whether the package had actually been built correctly - ie
> > the lack of this library was a deliberate decision rather than an
> > accident.
>
> The debian koffice-dev package provides all of the headers that are
> installed in a default koffice installation.  If you look in
> koffice/lib/kotext/Makefile.am, you'll see the line that would install

Well, I've got to revert back to my version before I deleted this - but thanks 
for your help anyway.

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Re: compiling kde-apps without --prefix=/usr

2002-10-21 Thread Thomas Ritter
Hi,

if I understand it correctly, you want to separate packages from self-compiled 
binaries, but KDE likes to have all these things in one place ;)
Just make a package. Go to the source dir of your app you want to compile and 
type "deb-make". A directory named debian/ is being created. Call 
"debian/rules binary" and your package will be created. Any configure options 
you want to set, you can set in the shell script debian/rules.

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compiling kde-apps without --prefix=/usr

2002-10-21 Thread Andreas Richter
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Hi list,

i will compile, install and use ;) a kde-application that not in the official 
woody. (kile).
when i make the normal procedure
./configure && make && su && make install
then my computer installs the binarys under the /usr/local/kde 
file-hierarchie. that's ok and imho standard.

but in my kde-menu i can't find an entry like "kile" to run the program. under 
the console i can run the program with
/usr/local/kde/bin/kile
but without many of the pictures and without menu

i think, that my system (woody, kde3.0.4 from kde.org) don't search in the 
/usr/local/kde-tree.
what can i do to add these directory-structur to my system?
under /etc/profile i have try the 
KDEDIRS=/usr/:/usr/local/kde
but this don't work :(
the same problem i have with kdevelop...

can anybody help me?

thanks &

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Re: koffice-dev what should it contain

2002-10-21 Thread Ben Burton

> 2) To question whether the package had actually been built correctly - ie
> the lack of this library was a deliberate decision rather than an accident.

The debian koffice-dev package provides all of the headers that are installed 
in a default koffice installation.  If you look in 
koffice/lib/kotext/Makefile.am, you'll see the line that would install these 
headers has been commented out (and has been since the initial CVS commit).

I'm asking now on the koffice list to find out why.

Ben.

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Re: koffice-dev what should it contain

2002-10-21 Thread Chandler, Alan
Sorry about the format of this post, I am at work and only got the web
archives and outlook to play with :-(

I think this reply misunderstands what I am doing.  I HAVE downloaded the
source of koffice (not the debian source, but from the kde CVS), and I am
now trying to cut it back so that I am left with the minimal amount of
source, and maximum binary from previously downloaded .debs (from kde.org).

The question I am asking is what is in koffice-dev - with respect to the
koffice libraries that are distributed with the source.  I deliberately cut
away koffice/libs directory and then tried to build kpresenter.  Within the
source there is a line

#include  

which fails because there is no such file in /usr/include.  However, since
in the source its in koffice/lib/kotext (A general looking sort of library)
- I sort of assumed that it was supposed to be in koffice-dev

I did try looking in koffice/debian/rules to see if I could figure how
koffice-dev was built - but I am not very knowledgable about how this works,
and this attempt defeated me.  Hence asking here.

What your post doesn't quite explain is why would other programs NOT want to
utillise to kozoomhandler.  I know I am doing something completely
unofficial - but I thought I would ask for two reasons

1) Just so I know
2) To question whether the package had actually been built correctly - ie
the lack of this library was a deliberate decision rather than an accident.

If I could get a clear statement, I'll just restore the missing
directory(ies) and proceed (I am using a local CVS to store my changes so I
should be able to revert them) 

=
On Sunday 20 October 2002 23:35, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I have installed koffice-dev with the objective of trying to build
> kpresenter without the rest of koffice source. (So I can understand the
> code)
>
> However, I have found that kozoomhandler.h is not within the this library.

> It is stored in kde cvs under koffice/libs/kotext

You will need the source-package for koffice to build the koffice apps 
themselves. The -dev package is for other programs linking to koffice 
libraries. Try 'apt-get source koffice' instead.

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KDE3.1 compilatoin error

2002-10-21 Thread Arash Bijanzadeh
I have compiled qt-copy and KDEsupport on my box(Debian woody 3.0) but arts 
gives this error:
Making all in qtmcop
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/tester/KDE/arts/qtmcop'
/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX g++  -Wnon-virtual-dtor 
-Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE 
-Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new  
-ftemplate-depth-99-o libqtmcop.la.closure libqtmcop_la_closure.lo 
-no-undefined -version-info 1:0 -R /home/tester/KDE/lib -R /usr/lib -R 
/usr/X11R6/lib  -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  qiomanager.lo ../mcop/libmcop.la 
-lqt-mt  -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -lX11  -lSM -lICE -lpthread 
libtool: link: warning: `-version-info' is ignored for programs
.libs/qiomanager.o: In function `Arts::QIOWatch::staticMetaObject(void)':
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0xd12): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObject::new_metaobject(char const *, QMetaObject *, QMetaData const *, 
int, QMetaData const *, int, QMetaProperty const *, int, QMetaEnum const *, 
int, bool (*)(QObject *, int, int, QVariant *), QClassInfo const *, int)'
.libs/qiomanager.o: In function `Arts::QIOWatch::qt_static_property(QObject *, 
int, int, QVariant *)':
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0xe95): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObject::qt_static_property(QObject *, int, int, QVariant *)'
.libs/qiomanager.o: In function `Arts::QTimeWatch::staticMetaObject(void)':
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0xfc2): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObject::new_metaobject(char const *, QMetaObject *, QMetaData const *, 
int, QMetaData const *, int, QMetaProperty const *, int, QMetaEnum const *, 
int, bool (*)(QObject *, int, int, QVariant *), QClassInfo const *, int)'
.libs/qiomanager.o: In function `Arts::QTimeWatch::qt_static_property(QObject 
*, int, int, QVariant *)':
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0x1141): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObject::qt_static_property(QObject *, int, int, QVariant *)'
.libs/qiomanager.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0':
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0x11a8): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObjectCleanUp::QMetaObjectCleanUp(char const *, QMetaObject 
*(*)(void))'
.libs/qiomanager.o(.text+0x11c7): undefined reference to 
`QMetaObjectCleanUp::QMetaObjectCleanUp(char const *, QMetaObject 
*(*)(void))'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libqtmcop.la.closure] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tester/KDE/arts/qtmcop'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tester/KDE/arts'
make: *** [all] Error 2
any idea?




Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-21 Thread Mark Purcell
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:01, Ben Burton wrote:
> And so I will nevertheless stick with the main point of my previous post
> which was, if we're going to use experimental, to argue for very clear
> documentation to be available on just what to do with APT configuration
> before any experimental KDE3 packages are announced.

It is a good point, and does warrant some documentation prior to any 
'release', that said it is not that disimilar to the current situation with 
'woody' users wanting to use versions of applications which are only in 
unstable. The current recommendation is to use pinning so that the whole of 
the unstable tree isn't uploaded.

Mark
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Re: dpkg installation of kde 3.0.4

2002-10-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
tomas pospisek wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, John Schmidt wrote:

I compiled the kde 3.0.4 for my powerpc box based on Ralph Nolden's
source files on the kde.org site.  I installed them using dpkg -i *.deb
selecting the debs I wanted.  Now when I go and use aptitude to update
my testing box, I get messages indicating that the kde files I just
installed are slated to be removed.  Now did I mess up by doing
installations via dpkg -i instead of apt-get?  If so, is there any way
to fix this or do I need to move all the debs to
/var/cache/apt/archives and use a apt-get install?

I don't know about aptitude but I'm pretty sure you can find out by
looking at the explanation of apt/aptitude (maybe using some options that
give you more info). I know that dselect will tell you why it wants to
remove things.

I find aptitude to be similar enough to deselect not to be alien but far 
better enough to easily make the switch.  When you are on the list screen 
after pressing 'g' and you see the packages aptitude wants to delete you can 
figure out what the problem is by looking at the dependencies and reverse 
dependencies on those packages.  This is something that dselect can't do, 
IIRC.  'd' will give you dependencies, 'r' will give you the reverse 
dependencies (packages that depend on this one).  You can then see the 
unsatisified dependencies which if necessesary can be examined themselves to 
see their dependencies, dependencies can be viewed recursively.  Unmet 
dependencies are listed in red.  There will be something there to explain the 
problem, I've always been able to figure out the problem this way.




Re: koffice-dev what should it contain

2002-10-21 Thread Alex
On Sunday 20 October 2002 23:35, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I have installed koffice-dev with the objective of trying to build
> kpresenter without the rest of koffice source. (So I can understand the
> code)
>
> However, I have found that kozoomhandler.h is not within the this library. 
> It is stored in kde cvs under koffice/libs/kotext

You will need the source-package for koffice to build the koffice apps 
themselves. The -dev package is for other programs linking to koffice 
libraries. Try 'apt-get source koffice' instead.

Alex.




Re: KMail Folder Disappeared!?!?!

2002-10-21 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Monday 21 October 2002 1:47 am, Oracle Administrator wrote:
> One of my folders had about 4500 messages in it and suddenly disappeared
> this afternoon.  I question that is truly vanished because when I try to
> recreate the folder the attempt fails.  A dialog appears that tells me I do
> not have sufficient permissions to complete the operation.
>
> I suspect that it may simply not be shown in my folder list.  Any ideas?

So in ~/Mail what are the permissions on the files (if mbox) or directories 
(if maildir) [and what are the permisssions on ~/Mail itself

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