Re: Imlib1 to be removed (was: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2)
On 2009-04-19, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, Edward J. Shornock escribió: >> * Carsten Pfeiffer [19-04-2009 23:46 EEST]: >> [...] >> >> > What's actually the reason to remove Imlib1 (and can the removal be >> > stopped)? >> >> See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522810 > > "Please remove imlib from the archive, which is related to the GTK 1.2 > removal." > > I don't understand this. The package only depends on X11 related libraries. I > don't see the relation to GTK: > > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/imlib11 We want dead, unmaintained software out of the archive. GTK1.2 fits that, imlib1 fits that, (Qt3 fits that and will probably be removed once squeeze is out) /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Imlib1 to be removed (was: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2)
El Domingo, 19 de Abril de 2009, Edward J. Shornock escribió: > * Carsten Pfeiffer [19-04-2009 23:46 EEST]: > [...] > > > What's actually the reason to remove Imlib1 (and can the removal be > > stopped)? > > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522810 "Please remove imlib from the archive, which is related to the GTK 1.2 removal." I don't understand this. The package only depends on X11 related libraries. I don't see the relation to GTK: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/imlib11 -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Imlib1 vs. Imlib2
Hi, I am the author of KuickShow, which uses Imlib1 for decoding and rendering images. Imlib1 is doing a fantastic job at that -- I haven't found a single other library that is as fast as Imlib1. I've got some arguments against the removal of Imlib1: 1) Imlib2 is not a replacement for Imlib1. At least last I checked, the functionality differed quite a lot. In other words, Imlib2 doesn't provide the functionality that KuickShow uses from Imlib1. 2) Imlib2 is actually slower in image decoding and rendering, at least in those cases that KuickShow is concerned with. 3) Imlib1 is available as GDK and plain Xlib variant. KuickShow uses the plain Xlib variant, so the removal of GTK1.2 should not necessarily remove the Xlib variant of Imlib1. What about stripping the GDK bits from Imlib1 and keep on providing the Xlib variant? Thanks, Carsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Imlib1 to be removed (was: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2)
* Carsten Pfeiffer [19-04-2009 23:46 EEST]: [...] > What's actually the reason to remove Imlib1 (and can the removal be stopped)? See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522810 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Imlib1 to be removed (was: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2)
Hi, so far I haven't had a need to port away from Imlib1. Imlib was the fastest image loading and rendering library and it works just fine. Despite the name, Imlib2 is *not* a successor of Imlib1, it is a completely different thing with a different (incompatible) feature set. And even Imlib2 is slower than Imlib2 (I did port KuickShow to Imlib2 to test it, years ago). I'll run some benchmarks to see if e.g. Qt's image io has been improved, but I'd be surprised if it was as fast as Imlib1. What's actually the reason to remove Imlib1 (and can the removal be stopped)? Cheers, Carsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2
Am Sonntag, 19. April 2009 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: Hi, > Are you subscribed to debian-kde? now I am :-) > And BTW, did you rececieve one email I > sent you on 25-02-2009? Now that you tell me -- yes, I actually did receive it. I'm sorry, apparently I have overlooked it back then. > The most important thing I said then, is that I set up a page on Userbase: > http://userbase.kde.org/KuickShow Thanks a bunch for setting that up. We should use that as the primary "homepage" for KuickShow now. The information on the Sourceforge site is kinda outdated ;-) > Great! I found it very usable, yes. My only problem so far, is that I > mostly use KuickShow started from another application (a file manager, o > clicking a link in KMail, etc.), and when I test it from the command line > making it open a new file (instead of opening first the filemanager), mouse > and keyboard have no effect. Thanks for telling me about that, I didn't notice that yet. > I will start learning again how to package. Last time I did one, it was a > KDE3 app, so many things are different. I will ask the KDE maintainers, > though, maybe they prefer to add KuickShow to their package list, specially > if you plan to add it again to kdegraphics at some point. Cool, thanks. > Two small thoughts: > - The version in the 3.5 branch is 0.8.13, while in trunk is 0.8.7. ;-) Eek. How did that happen... > Is not a serious issue, since the packaged version doesn't have to match > that. - Do you plan releasing a tarball? A binary or a source tarball? I didn't plan the release yet, so I'm open for suggestions. > And by the way, if you want me to do some junior job, tell me. I found that > there are simple things that I could try, like porting code that uses Qt3 > layout classes. I also found that at least some code is not used > (mainwidget.*, if I looked properly). I just don't dare to touch a thing. I > don't want to do something wrong. :) OK, I'll come up with something, thanks for your offer! Cheers, Carsten signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KMail (KDE 4.2.2) indexing? again and again
On Friday 17 April 2009 17:33:16 Tim Rühsen wrote: > Am Thursday, 16. April 2009 schrieb Luis Felipe Tabera: > > On Thursday 16 April 2009 09:49:02 Tim Rühsen wrote: > > > > Is this happening on a Disconnected IMAP account ? > > > > > > No. All my accounts use POP3. > > > After a few days in bed, i started my machine today on 9:00. Since 9:40 > > > it is possible to work with kmail (before: same as below, kmail was too > > > slow). > > > > > > Any ideas are very welcome. > > > > > > Tim > > > > Do you have defined search folders? I have experienced many problems with > > search folders and kmail. > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184972 > > > > If you have defined search folders eliminate them and check if you still > > experience problems. > > > > Luis > > Thx Luis. > > No problems any more since I removed the only search folder 'last search'. > Great hint ! > > Have a nice weekend. > > Tim Please, post a comment on the previous bug to confirm it at least in part. Luis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2
El Viernes, 17 de Abril de 2009, Carsten Pfeiffer escribió: > Hi Alejandro, > > I just noticed the kuickshow discussion on debian-kde (I'm the author of > kuickshow). Hi Carsten. Are you subscribed to debian-kde? And BTW, did you rececieve one email I sent you on 25-02-2009? The most important thing I said then, is that I set up a page on Userbase: http://userbase.kde.org/KuickShow > That's quite an accurate description of the situation :-} Just yesterday I > found a little time for it, and the current version in svn works OK for me. > The toolbar is still messed up and there are some other minor buglets, but > the main functionality is there (and stable AFAICS). Great! I found it very usable, yes. My only problem so far, is that I mostly use KuickShow started from another application (a file manager, o clicking a link in KMail, etc.), and when I test it from the command line making it open a new file (instead of opening first the filemanager), mouse and keyboard have no effect. > That would be great. I'm trying to get it into the state of usefulness and > stability of the KDE 3.5 version ASAP, and I'd be very happy if someone > could provide a package of it. I will start learning again how to package. Last time I did one, it was a KDE3 app, so many things are different. I will ask the KDE maintainers, though, maybe they prefer to add KuickShow to their package list, specially if you plan to add it again to kdegraphics at some point. Two small thoughts: - The version in the 3.5 branch is 0.8.13, while in trunk is 0.8.7. ;-) Is not a serious issue, since the packaged version doesn't have to match that. - Do you plan releasing a tarball? > FWIW, there's a bugreport about kuickshow for KDE4, which I will close when > the KDE4 version is on par with the last KDE3 version. If someone wants to > track it, here's the URL: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188539 Yes, I subscribed to it this morning. Thanks a lot for KuickShow! And by the way, if you want me to do some junior job, tell me. I found that there are simple things that I could try, like porting code that uses Qt3 layout classes. I also found that at least some code is not used (mainwidget.*, if I looked properly). I just don't dare to touch a thing. I don't want to do something wrong. :) -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Kuickshow replacement in KDE 4.2.2
On 2009-04-17, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote: > --nextPart2828148.qkRqSMYeeT > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > > Hi Alejandro, > > I just noticed the kuickshow discussion on debian-kde (I'm the author of=20 > kuickshow). Hi! I haven't looked into your work, but I hope that you have stopped using imlib1 (that is to be removed from debian) /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Ensuring that screen is locked on wakeup + power mgmt in general
Michael Schuerig says: "There are other things regarding Suspend to RAM that I noticed: In the (advanced) Power Management Configuration, the power button is set to trigger the Log out dialog. It does indeed appear, but at the same time I a system message pops up telling me that the system is powered off NOW." This is because acpid (acpi-support) is not yet compatible with Powerdevil. I've found a temporary workaround for this (tested only in KDE 4): just rename /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh to something like : /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh.bak /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh.bak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
