Re: Akonadi-MySQL Issues

2010-03-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-03-14, Sune Vuorela  wrote:
> On 2010-03-14, Dominik Schulz  wrote:
>> 2.) Akonadi backup
>> Another issue is also related to MySQL. Since MySQL/InnoDB is used as an=20
>> Akonadi backend, it troubles me how to properly backup user profiles in a=20
>> multi-user setup. Right now I'm just backing up the users homedirs which=20
>> covers most personal data and applicatin profiles, but with InnoDB this bec=
>> omes=20
>> difficult w/o LVM Snapshots (which aren't available on all systems right no=
>> w).=20
>> How is the akonadi db supposed to be backed up? Or is the information in th=
>> e=20
>> db no vital to akonadi and shouldn't backed up at all? The akonadi=20
>> documentation seems to point this way, but I'm not sure.
>
> Akonadi is a data cache, not a data store, so by nuking the DB you are
> only losing the bandwidth spent fetching it in the first place.

Or well. it is also containing data changed that still haven't been
replayed to the real storage. E.g. some offline imap handling.

It shouldn't be needed to backup the db.

/Sune


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Re: Akonadi-MySQL Issues

2010-03-15 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dominik Schulz  wrote:
> 2.) Akonadi backup
> Another issue is also related to MySQL. Since MySQL/InnoDB is used as an
> Akonadi backend, it troubles me how to properly backup user profiles in a
> multi-user setup. Right now I'm just backing up the users homedirs which
> covers most personal data and applicatin profiles, but with InnoDB this 
> becomes
> difficult w/o LVM Snapshots (which aren't available on all systems right now).
> How is the akonadi db supposed to be backed up? Or is the information in the
> db no vital to akonadi and shouldn't backed up at all? The akonadi
> documentation seems to point this way, but I'm not sure.

Well, since akonadi's database is stored in ~/.local, if you backup
the whole home dir, akonadi's db should be backed up too. The only
problem is that the database is huge; it's at least 100MB (!!!) when
it's created for the first time and keeps growing (On my
university's lab the admins have disabled akonadi just because of
that, to save space)


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Re: Akonadi-MySQL Issues

2010-03-15 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Monday 15 March 2010, George Kiagiadakis wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dominik Schulz  
wrote:
> > 2.) Akonadi backup
> > Another issue is also related to MySQL. Since MySQL/InnoDB is used
> > as an Akonadi backend, it troubles me how to properly backup user
> > profiles in a multi-user setup. Right now I'm just backing up the
> > users homedirs which covers most personal data and applicatin
> > profiles, but with InnoDB this becomes difficult w/o LVM Snapshots
> > (which aren't available on all systems right now). How is the
> > akonadi db supposed to be backed up? Or is the information in the
> > db no vital to akonadi and shouldn't backed up at all? The akonadi
> > documentation seems to point this way, but I'm not sure.
> 
> Well, since akonadi's database is stored in ~/.local, if you backup
> the whole home dir, akonadi's db should be backed up too.

That, unfortunately, is a misconception. If you just copy the database 
files while akonadi is running, you're in no way guaranteed to get a 
consistent snapshot. The clean way to backup a database is to 
transactionally dump its contents.

> The only
> problem is that the database is huge; it's at least 100MB (!!!) when
> it's created for the first time and keeps growing (On my
> university's lab the admins have disabled akonadi just because of
> that, to save space)

On a personal computer, I don't see the size itself as a problem. 
However, regarding backups, there's no way to make small, incremental 
backups. Tools such as rsnapshot (that keep hardlinks to unchanged files 
in a snapshot) are thwarted, too.

BTW, it's not just akonadi that's affected by this problem, amarok has 
started to use an embedded MySQL engine, too.

Michael

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Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-15 Thread Michael Schuerig

After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has made 
it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound volume. I 
didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix, too, doesn't show 
any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound adapter.

Phonon does recognize the external adapter, it happily plays sound 
through it and it is displayed in the Multimedia System Settings. KMix 
does show tabs for the internal "HDA Intel" adapter and for my external 
webcam (Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000). However, the tab for the webcam 
contains no controls, older version of KMix/KDE did have controls there. 

I have already deleted ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*, but that didn't make a 
difference.

Michael

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