Re: KDE5 Java SystemTray not supported

2015-09-18 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Friday, 2015-09-18, 11:18:09, Richard Newton wrote:
> I had similar problem with "synergy" and have seen reports about other
> programs. As a work-around I installed  "lxpanel", configured it to only
> show the system-tray, located it so it doesn't interfere with the KDE
> panel, and made it unobtrusive.  Any panel should work, I only used lxpanel
> because I was familiar with it and it is light-weight.
> 
> I understand KDE changed the way they handle system-tray items. Either they
> need to make a way to use the "old method" or all the effected programs
>  will need to adjust to the KDE method. Don't know how that is going to go!

All major workspace implementations (GNOME, KDE, Unity, but also smaller ones) 
on Linux are changing this because the current (now legacy) option is based on 
an X11 specific mechanism and won't be available on Wayland or Mir.

The new system, called Status Notifier Icons, is based on a windowing system 
independent mechanism and can be used on X11 and next generation display 
systems.

Most UI frameworks have kept up with that change, after all they want to stay 
relevant in the future as well, but it seems Java hasn't or at least not in 
the version used by Tim's program.

Quite a shame given that Java started out as *the* option for cross platform 
application development, but always lacked platform integration in the default 
feature set (one of the reasons why so many multiplatform Java applications 
use Eclipse's SWT instead of SWING).

Anyway, for now there are quite some tools capable of providing an XEmbed 
based "tray area", I think Martin Gräßlin's blog even mentions a couple.

Cheers,
Kevin

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Re: KDE5 Java SystemTray not supported

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Newton
I had similar problem with "synergy" and have seen reports about other
programs. As a work-around I installed  "lxpanel", configured it to only
show the system-tray, located it so it doesn't interfere with the KDE
panel, and made it unobtrusive.  Any panel should work, I only used lxpanel
because I was familiar with it and it is light-weight.

I understand KDE changed the way they handle system-tray items. Either they
need to make a way to use the "old method" or all the effected programs
 will need to adjust to the KDE method. Don't know how that is going to go!

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez <
perezme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 18 September 2015 16:43:19 Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just upgraded to KDE5 on unstable and immediately realized that my Java
> > PBX Client fails to start because SystemTray.isSupported() returns false.
> >
> > I am using openjdk-8 packages.
> >
> > My questions are
> > - is there a known work-around to start such Java apps within KDE5 ?
>
> *Maybe* if you use sni-qt, but I'm not sure.
>
> > - where should the bug report go, kde or openjdk ?
>
> Most probably openjdk, see
>
>  http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
>
> Good luck with that!
>
> --
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> very selective about who it decides to make friends with.
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>
> Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
> http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
> http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/
>



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Re: KDE5 Java SystemTray not supported

2015-09-18 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 18 September 2015 16:43:19 Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded to KDE5 on unstable and immediately realized that my Java
> PBX Client fails to start because SystemTray.isSupported() returns false.
> 
> I am using openjdk-8 packages.
> 
> My questions are
> - is there a known work-around to start such Java apps within KDE5 ?

*Maybe* if you use sni-qt, but I'm not sure.

> - where should the bug report go, kde or openjdk ?

Most probably openjdk, see

 http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/

Good luck with that!

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very selective about who it decides to make friends with.
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http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/


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KDE5 Java SystemTray not supported

2015-09-18 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hi,

I just upgraded to KDE5 on unstable and immediately realized that my Java PBX 
Client fails to start because SystemTray.isSupported() returns false.

I am using openjdk-8 packages.

My questions are
- is there a known work-around to start such Java apps within KDE5 ?
- where should the bug report go, kde or openjdk ?

Regards, Tim



Re: Reinstall KDE completely

2015-09-18 Thread Boris Pek
Hi,

> The problem is that there is a lot of new config files on .local and .config
> with kf5 on it, and kde-full only removes what was installed with the
> metapackage. There are tons of kde5 packages laying around that removing
> kde-full will not remove. Any ideas?

sudo apt-get autoremove --purge

Best wishes,
Boris



Re: Reinstall KDE completely

2015-09-18 Thread M.
Thanks folks.

The problem is that there is a lot of new config files on .local and
.config with kf5 on it, and kde-full only removes what was installed with
the metapackage. There are tons of kde5 packages laying around that
removing kde-full will not remove. Any ideas?

Thanks again.

2015-09-17 12:19 GMT-03:00 Mirosław Zalewski :

> Dnia 2015-09-17, o godz. 10:18:21
> Carlos Kosloff  napisał(a):
>
> > Contrary to remove, purge command will also remove config files.
>
> Not in home directory. Package managers do not touch files in home
> directory, ever.
>
> @"M.":
> KDE applications used to keep files in dedicated directory (~/.kde on
> Debian, ~/.kde4 on some other distros), but now they are XDG-compliant
> and keep their stuff in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME, which defaults to ~/.config .
> The problem is, there is no subdirectory for KDE-related stuff. You
> have to manually select directories which you think you won't need
> anymore and remove them.
>
> You might also want to check out ~/.local and ~/.cache (this one can be
> safely removed - it's cache after all).
> --
> Best regards
> Mirosław Zalewski
>
>