RE: Debian packages of KDevelop 3.0 (Gideon) from CVS

2003-05-03 Thread Tamas Nagy
> El Sábado, 3 de Mayo de 2003 09:53, Tamas Nagy escribió:
> > - please use standard Debian paths for KDE/qt. /usr/local/kde3/
> > So please remove the followings from build-gideon:
> > --prefix=/usr/local/kde3/
> > --with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt
> > --with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt
> 
> AFAIK, /usr/local must never be used for building debian 
> packages, so the path 
> is properly set. In fact, qt is usually installed in /usr/lib.
> 
> I never had anything installed in /usr/local, and using 
> debian, you should 
> never use "make install".
> -- 

This was the original suggestion as well, just the editor made some fun
with me;) So once again, with some addition:

1) Please update/revert the debian directory in the CVS with using
standard Debian directories
2) Enable all options in configuration (almost everything is in
usable/compileable state)
3) If you reference a file, please add it to the CVS (e.g.
update_doc_index.sh !, gideon-plugins.install ?)
4) Please update/revert the directories in all *.install files as well
to the standard 

I hope these changes would allow again anyone to build Debian packages
from Gideon...

Thanks, 
Tamas





RE: Debian packages of KDevelop 3.0 (Gideon) from CVS

2003-05-03 Thread Tamas Nagy
Dear Norman,

I really appreciate your work in the KDevelop's CVS debian dir. However
I'm not a Debian developer, I might suggest the following changes:
- please use standard Debian paths for KDE/qt. 
/usr/local/kde3/ 
So please remove the followings from build-gideon:
--prefix=/usr/local/kde3/
--with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt
--with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt
And adapt the followings as well:
Run:
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin/gideon
Debug:
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib kdbg /usr/bin/gideon

Enable additional options in configuration:
--enable-javasupport
--enable-embedded
--enable-qtopia
--enable-svnsupport

Thanks,
Tamas


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> Behalf Of Norman Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:55 AM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Debian packages of KDevelop 3.0 (Gideon) from CVS
> 
> 
> I have added automake1.7 to the build-depends field, and to 
> the depends field for gideon.
> 
> On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 03:53:20PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote:
> > * Sergio Rodriguez de Guzman Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan/unstable/binary ./ deb-src 
> > > http://people.debian.org/~njordan/unstable/source ./
> > 
> > Also not :)
> > 
> > deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan/unstable ./binary/ deb-src 
> > http://people.debian.org/~njordan/unstable/ ./source/
> > 
> > BTW, would you mind zo include automake1.7 in all you 
> Depends: lines? 
> > I'm currently downloading source to do that myself but there are 
> > others out there, who have Adrian Bunks packages installed and who 
> > will run into the same problems.
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
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Popularity contest and KDE packages

2003-05-01 Thread Tamas Nagy
Hello,

Recently I checked the popularity contest's result and found the
following:

There is not a single KDE package in the top 200 votes... 

The first KDE packages were kdelibs-bin (221), Konqueror (243th), kdm
(248) and kicker (261)...
I know that KDE is relatively new (at least in Debian) and not too many
users participate in such a survey, but this was really surprising... 
Therefore I invite all of you to participate in this survey to have any
realistic numbers about KDE users under Debian...

Best regards,
Tamas
PS: apt-get install popularity-contest




RE: gideon

2003-04-05 Thread Tamas Nagy
Old links are removed 
Unstable versions are available at 
http://debiantoday.dnip.net/debian .

See Ralf's version (Woody) at 
ktown.kde.org/~nolden/debian/kde woody main

Best regards,
Tamas

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> Behalf Of Frank Habermann (LordLamer)
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:49 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: gideon
> 
> 
> hi!
> 
> i am try to download giedon for woody from: 
> http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/
> 
> but the links are 
> dead. so does somebody have a mirror? or where can i 
> download gideon?
> 
> thx
> 
> frank habermann
> 
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RE: Gideon snapshot packages available

2003-03-25 Thread Tamas Nagy
> 
> Did you get it compiled with the kdelibs Doxygen 
> documentation?  I don't know what features are lost without 
> this documentation, but I'm sure it would be nice.
> 

It was compiled with using the current CVS debian directory, prepared by
Ralf for Woody... Some options have to be adapted to unstable packages,
such as this one... 
Which other options do you miss?

Regards,
Tamas




Gideon snapshot packages available

2003-03-24 Thread Tamas Nagy
As Gideon (aka Kdevelop 3) is coming close to Alpha4 might be those
lucky Debian users and developers are getting to be interested in it.

Here is the apt-source:

deb http://debiantoday.dnip.net/debian ./

To get the snapshot packages... The packages are build upon KDE 3.1.1
unstable packages...

Have a nice day,
Tamas




RE: web page for kde on debian

2003-01-24 Thread Tamas Nagy
Hello, 

I'm the maintainer of http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/. This site
was dedicated to help the users in those times, when we had no official
or even working KDE 3.1 Debian packages available. 

Fortunately, many good things have happenned since that time. Some of
these, like what Karolina or Ralf did, not to mention the official
developers. 

As I predict KDE 3.1 will become __finally__ part of the official Debian
distribution, I do not feel any need for further maintaining this site.
I will declare obsolete soon.

Best regards and keep your good work and let Debian be the best KDE 3.1
distribution.

Tamas 

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> Behalf Of funky soul
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:03 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: web page for kde on debian
> 
> 
> hi Benoit,
> 
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:50:25 +0100
> Benoit Mortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > is there any news about the web pages about kde on debian 
> at kde.org 
> > ???
> 
> it's not at kde.org but it lists available kde3 packages for 
> debian: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/
> 
> f. soul.
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Gideon Alpha2 packages for Debian/Unstable, KDE RC2 available

2002-11-25 Thread Tamas Nagy
The latest Gideon Alpha-2 available for those lucky Debian users...
Unstable / KDE3.1-rc[2-4] packages are required...

Link to download (no APT):
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/index.html#gideon

Best regards,
Tamas

PS : KDE 3.0.5 packages are not yet available... Sooner or later;)




RE: Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE 3.0.4

2002-10-16 Thread Tamas Nagy
No, sorry... You can install only one of these packages at a time...

Tamas

-Original Message-
From: Michael Spanier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:03 PM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE
3.0.4


Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2002 22:25 schrieb Tamas Nagy:
> Those lucky Debian users;) can download and play with the recent 
> Gideon (Kdevelop Alpha1) snapshot package...
>
> Link to download: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian#gideon
>
> Cheers,
> Tamas

Cool,

just a question, can I use gideon together with kdevelop ?


Michael


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RE: Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE 3.0.4

2002-10-15 Thread Tamas Nagy
These packages are for 3.0.4 users... Do not expect to work with
3.1-beta2...

Tamas

-Original Message-
From: Rob Lensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:01 AM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE
3.0.4


Op Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:25:55 +0200
"Tamas Nagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef:
> Those lucky Debian users;) can download and play with the recent 
> Gideon(Kdevelop Alpha1) snapshot package...
> 
> Link to download: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian#gideon
Gideo won't start here because:
gideon: error while loading shared libraries: libkjava.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

It has to be in kdelibs I think, but the kde3.1 beta2 package's I have
has no Java compiled in I think.

Is there another way to provide libkjava?

Greetings
Rob Lensen


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Gideon Debian package (Alpha1++,CVS 2002-10-15) for KDE 3.0.4

2002-10-15 Thread Tamas Nagy
Those lucky Debian users;) can download and play with the recent Gideon
(Kdevelop Alpha1) snapshot package... 

Link to download: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian#gideon

Cheers,
Tamas

PS: Dear Kdevelop webmaster: please indicate the Debian packages as well
on the download page... Thanks!
PS: ++ indicates the recent changes in CVS only...




RE: Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)

2002-10-12 Thread Tamas Nagy
Hello,

So basicly I used the earlier CVS version and modified that one. Then
you upgraded, and we have two different versions. 
Yes, meantime I reviewed the files in CVS and compared to mine. BTW,
have you tried the current CVS version out, is it working for you? It
takes a lot of time to rebuild and test the settings, so I haven't tried
the current CVS version yet...

Some difference, I have found:
- Gideon or kdevelop package names (I could change mine to Kdevelop
back, since it is now getting stable)
Debiandirs:
- --enable-debug / --disable-debug mode  (which should be preferred?)
- --disable-rpath (?)
- configkdepim probably not necessary in the CVS-version
Control:
- package names (e.g. some experimental packages have names kdelibs
instead of kdelibs4) -> kdelibs | kdelibs4 is more general IMHO...
- libqt vs. libqt-mt -> both should be supported the same way ->
libqt3-dev | libqt3-mt-dev
- kprof could be suggested as well
...

Any comments/suggestions welcome...

Tschuess,
Tamas


-Original Message-
From: Stefan Schimanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:53 PM
To: Tamas Nagy
Subject: Re: Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)


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Hi!

On Thursday 10 October 2002 22:11, you wrote:
> Please find my debian dir enclosed! Some issues are still not solved, 
> but better than the CVS, and at least worked for me...

ich denke mal, ich kann bei Deiner Emailadresse auch deutsch sprechen 
:) Ich hab eben mal ein Diff zwischen der CVS-Version und Deinen 
Änderungen angeschaut. Aus welcher Version aus dem CVS hast Du Deine 
Version abgeleitet?

Ich hab am 25.9. das KDevelop-Debian-Verzeichnis aktualisiert und an 
die anderen Module angepasst. Dadurch hat sich leider so einiges 
geändert, so dass Deine Änderungen leider nicht mehr passen :-( Das 
Paket, in der CVS-Version, braucht sicherlich noch einiges an Arbeit 
(einige Dinge hast du ja schon aufgeführt, java, docs, etc.). Es wäre 
klasse, wenn Du Dir mal anschauen könntest, in wie weit Du Deine 
Anpassungen übernehmen kannst.

Gruss
  Schimmi
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RE: Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)

2002-10-10 Thread Tamas Nagy
The updates have just been sent in a private mail, soon available from
CVS...

Tamas

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Schimanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:18 PM
To: Tamas Nagy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)


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Hi,

> PS: The source is not APT-get-able due to the restrictions of the 
> ISP;(...
> PS2: If anybody would like to commit my debian dir (minor updates
> only) to the CVS, I gladly share it. I do not have KDE CVS account...

I have updated the cvs debian dir of Gideon recently. I will apply 
your fixes to the cvs if you send them to me.

Schimmi
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Gideon package for Debian (CVS 2002-10-09)

2002-10-09 Thread Tamas Nagy
Congratulate to the developer's team for the first (almost) stable
Gideon release, which is now also available for those lucky Debian
users... Download at
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/index.html#gideon . 

Keep walking,
Tamas

PS: The source is not APT-get-able due to the restrictions of the
ISP;(...
PS2: If anybody would like to commit my debian dir (minor updates only)
to the CVS, I gladly share it. I do not have KDE CVS account...




List of available KDE3 Debian packages with versions

2002-09-24 Thread Tamas Nagy
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/3.0.3/packages.html
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/3.1/packages.html (beta1)

Since we have a bunch of active packagers and apt-sources, many people
might be confused about the latest/actual/working versions of
KDE3.0.3/3.1beta1 packages available for Debian.

Recently I compiled a -not complete- list, but enough for an average
user. This list could be handy to answer these type of questions, and
prevent others like, "Is xyz package available for KDE3.x.y?"

Again, if you know any other existing package, I will gladly update this
list...

Enjoy,
Tamas

PS: I plan to update another script, to help to mirror these packages
locally, allow people in local communities to distribute the packages,
and reduce the traffic on original sites...




FW: kde3 & debian & xinerama

2002-09-21 Thread Tamas Nagy
This should be posted on debian-kde...

Tamas

-Original Message-
From: Ignacio Solis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kde3 & debian & xinerama


Hi.

This is just a small bug report on the KDE 3.0.3 packages for debian. I
just installed them yesterday so I haven't looked too much into the
problem to submit a patch or anything. I didn't think this was for
debian-devel so you seem to be a good choice to send it to.

KDE3 has problems initializing in Xinerama mode.

With my kde2 files (already working on xinerama) kde3 starts fine.

If I erase .kde and .kderc KDE3 tries to initialize/etc but it doesn't
complete. After restarting a few times it almost finishes starting but
doesn't initialize completely the panel.

If I disable xinerama in X the initialization works fine, but it doesn't
let me enable kde-xinerama support.


I don't know if this is KDE3 issues or packaging issues, haven't tried
other kde3s with xinerama.


Later,

Nacho

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RE: KDE debs building

2002-09-15 Thread Tamas Nagy
Glad to hear the initiative. First of all, credit to all packagers, it
was a good work...

IMHO, the current practice (everybody creates own packaging for KDE)
needs to be changed. The debian directories in CVS used to be outdated,
and this leads to duplicated (and wasted) packaging efforts. KDE package
building should be repeatable from the CVS by anyone. 

However there are some site, including mine
(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian, for gathering all the (often
incompatible) packages and sources ), the best would be to have a single
repository for all the KDE Debian packages at ftp.kde.org. 

Finally, individual heroes, please try to use the KDE CVS (more
frequently) and let everybody will benefit from your work.

Tamas

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From: Ralf Nolden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:36 PM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: KDE debs building


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Hi,

as some of you got to know until now, I switched from SuSE to Debian
this week 
- - and directly hit the fact that building debs from CVS would work
best for 
me to have it working the right way (tm). Now, I got into working with
Chris 
lately and we try to fix the issues one by one soon now so that everyone
can 
build debs himself but more important, provide debs for KDE constantly
that 
work, where also most importantly betas, RC's and finals are provided by
the 
day that the packages are build and work optimal on Debian.

The other thing is that third party apps need to be compiled if you like
to 
use them. Until now several people do that for the apps they like to run
or 
that they are developing using debian as their development platform. The

problem for the users is that the deb lines for sources.list are spread
all 
over and there is no central way of getting the newest apps through debs
for 
people that are not necessarily developers like we are. The other thing
is 
that as developers, just doing a make install would work but that
usually 
messes up our systems, especially as KDE has /usr as its prefix on
debian. So 
it would be the best if we could somehow collect our resources and
schedule 
building debs and providing them in a central place. 

I talked with Dirk Müller already and some other guys that I use to work
with 
at KDE and we should provide that possibility through KDE on
ftp.kde.org. 
Wether that will work out just depends on how many people would
volunteer to 
participate.

If you're interested, let's come together to finally end this messy
system 
where there's certain problems with building debs for us and the KDE
users 
using debian, it would surely make things a *lot* easier if we organize 
ourselves and coordinate doing things efficiently.

Thanks for your attention and for volunteering :-)

Ralf
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KDE3 Debian info page, WANTED/APT

2002-08-29 Thread Tamas Nagy
 The KDE3 Debian info page tries to summarize the APT sources for
KDE3 packages. 
The available packages and sources listcould be found at:
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/#APT .
There is a wanted list as well, so please help if you know about those:
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/#WANTED .

E.g.: KREATECD/KONCD/CDBAKEOVEN, KPROF, KDBG, ...

Thanks,
Tamas




RE: Woody

2002-08-05 Thread Tamas Nagy
Thanks for your comments...

Tamas

-Original Message-
From: Richard Ibbotson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:03 PM
To: Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Woody


Hi

Following Tomas Pospiseks advice of last week I went to the web page 
he described and did what it said at that page...

> http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/

Following on from that I now find that there are a number of problems 
with this page which I would like to resolve so that I can make an 
attempt at installing KDE3 if it's possible.  To start with some of 
the download URLS that are described do not work..

deb http://arachni.kiwi.uni-hamburg.de/~harlekin/debs/  

the above is a malformed line according to apt-get.  What do I change 
?

deb http://www.ping.uio.no/~mortehu/kde-i386 ./ 

error 404 Not Found

deb http://people.debian.org/~schepler kdegames/   # kdegames
deb http://people.debian.org/~msp ./  # kmerlin
deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/~ender/ ./ # xmmsarts 
deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan kde3.0/# KDevelop 2.1.1

error 404 Not Found

deb ftp://ftp.kvirc.net/kvirc/snapshots/debian/kde3 ./ # kvirc

error 302 Not Found

What should I put rather than the above ?  Other issues...

"Update package sources: 
apt-get update
Clean the package cache: 
apt-get clean"

Fine

"Install libqt3 3.0.4: available in unstable/SID"

Can you describe a path to this ?  I don't know where to download 
from.

"Install arts: 
apt-get install arts"

What is the exact name of the package and where do I get it from ?

"Install kdebase (~20 MB): 
apt-get install kdebase kdelibs3"

Where from ?  Any help greatly appreciated :)


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Gideon snapshot packages available for Debian, homepage comment, CVS

2002-07-13 Thread Tamas Nagy
Hello,

The first round of Gideon snapshots packages (CVS 2002-07-12) for Debian
are available at http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/ . If there is any
interest for these, then I consider to update the packages regularly...

If you like, you could indicate these packages at www.kdevelop.org
Download sites as
"Debian 3 (Woody) unstable packages (link)"

I do not have write access to CVS, so therefore I haven't updated the
Debian directory there. If sy contacts me with CVS write access, I glad
to share the updated Debian files...

Best regards and keep walking;)

Tamas 




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Debian KDE 3.x.x info page

2002-06-09 Thread Tamas Nagy
Hello,

KDE3/Debian infos (packages, mirrors, ...) available at
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian .
Please send your comments/corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best regards,
Tamas


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RE: gcc 3.0.4, kde in Debian: status?

2002-02-24 Thread Tamas Nagy
As Mark Mitchell states[1], the 3.0.x releases will not contain fix for
this error. Hopefully, the upcoming 3.1.x series...

Bye,
Tamas

[1]: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg01115.html

-Original Message-
From: Petter Reinholdtsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Petter Reinholdtsen
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:38 PM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gcc 3.0.4, kde in Debian: status?


[Christophe Prud'homme]
> I was wondering if the new gcc 3.0.4 in sid has the patch 
> [contrib/PR3145.patch] applied to fix some arts compilation.

Did you try to ask the GCC 3.0 maintainer?


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