Re: KDE4 and KDE3 separate
Ana Guerrero wrote: KDE4 will remain in experimental for some time... (months). Only some parts of kde4 will be co-installable with KDE3. Think we are planning release Lenny with KDE 3.5.9. More info about this in a mail soon. Apart from the Oxygen icons, I don't see anything else installable on KDE3 without breaking the KDE3 installation. Trying to install okular requires to have the KDE4 libraries and runtime packages installed. Are you packaging KDE3 and KDE4 runtime packages and libraries separately? IMO it would be better to make KDE4 separately installable. For now, maybe in /opt. This would allow most users to be able to fully test/install KDE4 without the fear of breaking their boxes because they will have a backup DE available always. Once KDE3 is EOLed and we feel that it is good enough to move to testing/unstable, just add a dependency of KDE4 onto KDE3 and change the path from /opt to the standard locations. This way users will be able to better use/test KDE4. And Debian KDE won't be late in the game. What do you think? Ritesh -- If possible, Please CC me when replying. I'm not subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4 and KDE3 separate
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 03:13:33PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Ana Guerrero wrote: KDE4 will remain in experimental for some time... (months). Only some parts of kde4 will be co-installable with KDE3. Think we are planning release Lenny with KDE 3.5.9. More info about this in a mail soon. Apart from the Oxygen icons, I don't see anything else installable on KDE3 without breaking the KDE3 installation. Trying to install okular requires to have the KDE4 libraries and runtime packages installed. Are you packaging KDE3 and KDE4 runtime packages and libraries separately? IMO it would be better to make KDE4 separately installable. For now, maybe in /opt. This would allow most users to be able to fully test/install KDE4 without the fear of breaking their boxes because they will have a backup DE available always. Once KDE3 is EOLed and we feel that it is good enough to move to testing/unstable, just add a dependency of KDE4 onto KDE3 and change the path from /opt to the standard locations. This way users will be able to better use/test KDE4. And Debian KDE won't be late in the game. Your KDE maintainers have been working for months now with KDE4 and all this issues have already a fix or have been made a decision about :) Besides, we had a real life meeting this last weekend and make some decisions more, a mail will follow in the next couple of days to this mailing list and debian-devel-announce. FYI, kde4libs, kdepimlibs and kdebase-runtime (for kde4) is co-installable with kdelibs3c2a and kdebase (KDE3), so from your kde4 you can run kde3 apps and viceversa. We are trying harder to update more the information in our website as well: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4 and KDE3 separate
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Ana Guerrero wrote: Your KDE maintainers have been working for months now with KDE4 and all this issues have already a fix or have been made a decision about :) Great. Thanks for all your work. FYI, kde4libs, kdepimlibs and kdebase-runtime (for kde4) is co-installable with kdelibs3c2a and kdebase (KDE3), so from your kde4 you can run kde3 apps and viceversa. That's good to know. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4 and KDE3 separate
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:10:44AM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Hi, Now that KDE4 is just about 25 days away from release, I was wondering what packaging policy is Debian going to make. Currently, this is what apt says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase kdebase: Installed: 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 Candidate: 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 Version table: 4:3.97.0-1 0 50 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main Packages 50 http://mirrors.kernel.org experimental/main Packages *** 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 0 990 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages 990 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages 600 http://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:3.5.7-3lenny1 0 990 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages So, Is KDE4 going to be an upgrade over KDE3 ? KDE3 is going to be maintained for some more time. Won't it be better to separate the packages till KDE3 is announced EOL ? There might be many users who would like to stick to KDE3. KDE4 will remain in experimental for some time... (months). Only some parts of kde4 will be co-installable with KDE3. Think we are planning release Lenny with KDE 3.5.9. More info about this in a mail soon. Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE4 and KDE3 separate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 December 2007, Ana Guerrero was heard to say: KDE4 will remain in experimental for some time... (months). I had a dream last night. Kmail, usung KDE4, was impossible to use. So much fancy graphics that I couldn't find the text; butterflies fluttering across the screen constantly; and attachments were sorted not by sender or message or time, but by phylum. Some dreams should not come true. :^) Curt- - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBR2Zyry9Y35yItIgBAQIcKwf/Wr9Ck7/IoQYJMLozVl8lvo2zzlSlHXj2 Oq789HssxYw22wMlA3KlfjTsGKC0ort5BIUjSzw5j9QU5AqXfiObc+fXAb84StL/ yYymp+0xMHXVOwRoPgMyuwRRFPic+s/2J1c3QFTasPPvti9RWM9GxAO3vPTTu5S1 dIW+ljWw/u2wnKzZgqpCUpaBKTS57rQegpXWVQOe7OzP2FqeXg2h3mQhtf4X67KF UXgj2NcZewek4cnuKXLugIgMK9cFUpkMB926wi3l428xSCKC5fPGPRZgqu0ceWB4 YQxDjbuW7fTTK5aIUIXTKyPiXeBMT0B4xWtDXSml1rlNQipjVAWxvA== =+iVn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE4 and KDE3 separate
Hi, Now that KDE4 is just about 25 days away from release, I was wondering what packaging policy is Debian going to make. Currently, this is what apt says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase kdebase: Installed: 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 Candidate: 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 Version table: 4:3.97.0-1 0 50 http://ftp.debian.org experimental/main Packages 50 http://mirrors.kernel.org experimental/main Packages *** 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 0 990 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages 990 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages 600 http://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:3.5.7-3lenny1 0 990 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages So, Is KDE4 going to be an upgrade over KDE3 ? KDE3 is going to be maintained for some more time. Won't it be better to separate the packages till KDE3 is announced EOL ? There might be many users who would like to stick to KDE3. Ritesh -- If possible, Please CC me when replying. I'm not subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
