Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-31 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen

Josh Metzler wrote:


On Wednesday 31 August 2005 03:02 pm, Alan Ezust wrote:
 


did that. I still get this message:

kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found !
Defaulting to Settings/

And no items in the KControl menu.

Any other ideas?
   



Yes, kdebase-data has the same bug and causes all kcontrol entries to 
disappear.  See bug #325592.
 

I think I would just like to add here that I have succesfully migrated 
to an all 3.4.2 desktop with pure sid packages. A lot of stuff is 
missing, like kdepim and I get by with mozilla-thunderbird as my mail 
client for now.


The point is that this works for me with absolutely no issues 
whatsoever. The K-menu is fully populated and KControl works fine as well.


Anders


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-31 Thread Josh Metzler
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 03:02 pm, Alan Ezust wrote:
> did that. I still get this message:
>
> kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found !
> Defaulting to Settings/
>
> And no items in the KControl menu.
>
> Any other ideas?

Yes, kdebase-data has the same bug and causes all kcontrol entries to 
disappear.  See bug #325592.

If you still have kdebase-data in apt's archive, you can do this:
dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.3.2-1_all.deb

Or, if you have testing in your sources.list, you can do
apt-get install kdebase-data/testing

Otherwise, download kdebase-data_3.3.2-1_all.deb from Debian's website, and 
install it using dpkg -i kdebase-data_3.3.2-1_all.deb.

Josh


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-31 Thread Alan Ezust
did that. I still get this message:

kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/

And no items in the KControl menu.

Any other ideas?

On 8/28/05, Josh Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes - the important package is kdelibs-data:> > > dpkg -i ./kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.debJosh



Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-28 Thread Josh Metzler
On Sunday 28 August 2005 08:52 pm, Alan Ezust wrote:
> Well, the first reply indicated I should use kdelibs-3.3.2-7.1 but I
> couldn't find that one anywhere.
>
> I already had 3.3.2-6.1, but I tried dpkg -i to reinstall both that and
> kcontrol, but it had no effect - I am still unable to see any menus
> inside kcontrol.
>
> My problem was not related to the KDE menu though - it was related to the
> kcontrol menu groups. Any other suggestions on how to get kcontrol items
> back after a downgrade?

Yes - the important package is kdelibs-data:

> > > dpgk -i ./kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb

Josh


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-28 Thread Alan Ezust
Well, the first reply indicated I should use kdelibs-3.3.2-7.1 but I couldn't find that one anywhere. 

I already had 3.3.2-6.1, but I tried dpkg -i to reinstall both that and
kcontrol, but it had no effect - I am still unable to see any menus
inside kcontrol.

My problem was not related to the KDE menu though - it was related to
the kcontrol menu groups. Any other suggestions on how to get kcontrol
items back after a downgrade?

On 8/23/05, garaged <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 8/23/05, Jan Schledermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Alan Ezust wrote:>> > Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
> > version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just> > downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.> >>> Just download kdelibs-data_3.3.2-
6.1_all.deb from www.debian.org (search> packages).> After download, as root, do:>>  dpgk -i ./kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb>thanks for the tip, those of us not debian gurus suffer with this bugs :-)
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Re: Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-23 Thread Barney Garrett

> > I am holding kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs
> > are updated to 3.4.2

> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html  . You should
> avoid upgrading KDE stuffs until the mail from the KDE mantainers

> The document says 'do apt-get upgrade' and/or hold kdelibs4. It did
> not
> mention kdelibs-data. This is why Barney and me rushed into that
> problem.
> Ok, maybe I have still been in sleep mode ;-)

I was just in sleep mode.  Normally I do double checks of version 
numbers but I just missed that one.


Barney


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-23 Thread garaged
On 8/23/05, Jan Schledermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan Ezust wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
> > version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just
> > downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.
> >
> 
> Just download kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb from www.debian.org (search
> packages).
> After download, as root, do:
> 
>  dpgk -i ./kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb
> 

thanks for the tip, those of us not debian gurus suffer with this bugs :-)

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-23 Thread Jan Schledermann
Alan Ezust wrote:

> Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
> version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just
> downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.
> 

Just download kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb from www.debian.org (search
packages).
After download, as root, do:

 dpgk -i ./kdelibs-data_3.3.2-6.1_all.deb 

from the directory where you put the downloaded file. dpkg will now
downgrade your kde-libs data.
You should be aware however that from then on in you will be bugged about a
broken package, but you'll have a working kde until you can upgrade it
properly.

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Silvan [Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:15:59 -0400]:

> On Monday 22 August 2005 02:29 pm, Squarris wrote:
> > I also uninstalled kde unintentionally. Out of interest, is there an
> > approximate time when kde will be working in unstable again? I just
> > need to weigh up whether it is worth me installing it from testing or
> > not or whether I should wait.

> They said "real soon now" two weeks ago,

  That was referred to when it would start, not to when would it finish.

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-22 Thread Silvan
On Monday 22 August 2005 02:29 pm, Squarris wrote:
> I also uninstalled kde unintentionally. Out of interest, is there an
> approximate time when kde will be working in unstable again? I just
> need to weigh up whether it is worth me installing it from testing or
> not or whether I should wait.

They said "real soon now" two weeks ago, and then someone just today re-posted 
that two-week old message as a news item to draw better attention to it.

Draw your own conclusions from this observation.

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-22 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Squarris [Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:29:50 +0100]:

> I also uninstalled kde unintentionally. Out of interest, is there an
> approximate time when kde will be working in unstable again? I just
> need to weigh up whether it is worth me installing it from testing or
> not or whether I should wait.

  I recommend that you install from testing (3.3.2) or alioth (3.4.1).

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-22 Thread Squarris
I also uninstalled kde unintentionally. Out of interest, is there an
approximate time when kde will be working in unstable again? I just
need to weigh up whether it is worth me installing it from testing or
not or whether I should wait.

Thanks alot,
Paul

On 8/22/05, Alan Ezust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
> version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just
> downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.
> 
> 
> On 8/18/05, Tim Ruehsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ;-) that happened to me this morning as well (my heart stopped beating for a
> > while).
> >
> > Just downgrade kdelibs-data to 4:3.3.2-7 and everything is in place again.
> > (After that, I restarted kde with /etc/init.d/kdm stop and start).
> >
> > I found the old kdelibs-data with the apt-get archive, so I just had to
> > dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.3.2-7_all.deb
> >
> > and thats it.
> >
> > Greetings, Tim
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 15:36 schrieb Barney Garrett:
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm running SID and have just done an update on my system, unfortunately
> > > this appears to have broken things.  KDE is at 3.3.2-7, I am holding
> > > kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs are updated to
> > > 3.4.2
> > >
> > > The KMenu has no applications in it, there is only bookmarks, quick
> > > browser, run command, lock session and logout showing
> > > If I try running kcontrol from a konsole i get  WARNING: No K menu group
> > > with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
> > > and no icons are shown in the kcontrol window.
> > >
> > > I've moved my .kde directorys away so that kde starts fresh but the
> > > problem doesn't go away.
> > > I've done some searching but everything I've found doesn't appear to fix
> > > it.  (checking libqt versions and setting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and
> > > XDG_DATA_DIRS in the .bashrc)
> > > Is there anything else I can try or is this a package problem that is
> > > being worked on?
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > > Barney
> > >
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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-22 Thread Björn Krombholz
2005/8/22, Alan Ezust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
> version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just
> downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.

see http://snapshot.debian.net/


Björn



Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-22 Thread Alan Ezust
Sorry, could you elaborate on how you did an apt-get of an older
version of the .deb file? I am in exactly the same boat - I just
downgraded to testing, and kcontrol shows up with no icons at all.


On 8/18/05, Tim Ruehsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ;-) that happened to me this morning as well (my heart stopped beating for a
> while).
> 
> Just downgrade kdelibs-data to 4:3.3.2-7 and everything is in place again.
> (After that, I restarted kde with /etc/init.d/kdm stop and start).
> 
> I found the old kdelibs-data with the apt-get archive, so I just had to
> dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.3.2-7_all.deb
> 
> and thats it.
> 
> Greetings, Tim
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 15:36 schrieb Barney Garrett:
> > Hi,
> > I'm running SID and have just done an update on my system, unfortunately
> > this appears to have broken things.  KDE is at 3.3.2-7, I am holding
> > kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs are updated to
> > 3.4.2
> >
> > The KMenu has no applications in it, there is only bookmarks, quick
> > browser, run command, lock session and logout showing
> > If I try running kcontrol from a konsole i get  WARNING: No K menu group
> > with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
> > and no icons are shown in the kcontrol window.
> >
> > I've moved my .kde directorys away so that kde starts fresh but the
> > problem doesn't go away.
> > I've done some searching but everything I've found doesn't appear to fix
> > it.  (checking libqt versions and setting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and
> > XDG_DATA_DIRS in the .bashrc)
> > Is there anything else I can try or is this a package problem that is
> > being worked on?
> >
> > Many thanks
> > Barney
> >
> >
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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Tim Ruehsen [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:21:12 +0200]:

> The document says 'do apt-get upgrade' and/or hold kdelibs4. It did not 
> mention kdelibs-data. This is why Barney and me rushed into that problem.

  Correct. There is a _real_ bug here, #323747, that will be fixed in
  the next upload.

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-19 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hi Marco,

> > I am holding kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs 
> > are updated to 3.4.2

> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html  . You should 
> avoid upgrading KDE stuffs until the mail from the KDE mantainers

The document says 'do apt-get upgrade' and/or hold kdelibs4. It did not 
mention kdelibs-data. This is why Barney and me rushed into that problem.
Ok, maybe I have still been in sleep mode ;-)

Tim


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-18 Thread Marco Calviani



Barney Garrett wrote:


Hi,
I'm running SID and have just done an update on my system, 
unfortunately this appears to have broken things.  KDE is at 3.3.2-7, 
I am holding kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs 
are updated to 3.4.2



Hi,
 please read this 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html  . You should 
avoid upgrading KDE stuffs until the mail from the KDE mantainers


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-18 Thread Barney Garrett

Phew ... I'd not noticed that one getting upgraded.
I didn't have 3.3.2 in my archive but I managed to download it and 
everything is fixed again.


Many Thanks

Barney

Tim Ruehsen wrote:
;-) that happened to me this morning as well (my heart stopped beating for a 
while).


Just downgrade kdelibs-data to 4:3.3.2-7 and everything is in place again. 
(After that, I restarted kde with /etc/init.d/kdm stop and start).


I found the old kdelibs-data with the apt-get archive, so I just had to 
dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.3.2-7_all.deb


and thats it.

Greetings, Tim

Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 15:36 schrieb Barney Garrett:


Hi,
I'm running SID and have just done an update on my system, unfortunately 
this appears to have broken things.  KDE is at 3.3.2-7, I am holding 
kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs are updated to 
3.4.2


The KMenu has no applications in it, there is only bookmarks, quick 
browser, run command, lock session and logout showing
If I try running kcontrol from a konsole i get  WARNING: No K menu group 
with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/

and no icons are shown in the kcontrol window.

I've moved my .kde directorys away so that kde starts fresh but the 
problem doesn't go away.
I've done some searching but everything I've found doesn't appear to fix 
it.  (checking libqt versions and setting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and 
XDG_DATA_DIRS in the .bashrc)
Is there anything else I can try or is this a package problem that is 
being worked on?


Many thanks
Barney


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-18 Thread Tim Ruehsen
;-) that happened to me this morning as well (my heart stopped beating for a 
while).

Just downgrade kdelibs-data to 4:3.3.2-7 and everything is in place again. 
(After that, I restarted kde with /etc/init.d/kdm stop and start).

I found the old kdelibs-data with the apt-get archive, so I just had to 
dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.3.2-7_all.deb

and thats it.

Greetings, Tim

Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 15:36 schrieb Barney Garrett:
> Hi,
> I'm running SID and have just done an update on my system, unfortunately 
> this appears to have broken things.  KDE is at 3.3.2-7, I am holding 
> kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs are updated to 
> 3.4.2
> 
> The KMenu has no applications in it, there is only bookmarks, quick 
> browser, run command, lock session and logout showing
> If I try running kcontrol from a konsole i get  WARNING: No K menu group 
> with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/
> and no icons are shown in the kcontrol window.
> 
> I've moved my .kde directorys away so that kde starts fresh but the 
> problem doesn't go away.
> I've done some searching but everything I've found doesn't appear to fix 
> it.  (checking libqt versions and setting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and 
> XDG_DATA_DIRS in the .bashrc)
> Is there anything else I can try or is this a package problem that is 
> being worked on?
> 
> Many thanks
> Barney
> 
> 
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