Re: How to use (free!) sources of other projects without copyright/license information in file?

2011-05-13 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Michael Tautschnig  writes:

> Both of the packages claim to be GPL'ed as per COPYING, and I wonder whether
> this is acceptable for Debian. Probably it is, as ax25-apps is in
> main.

While the GPL strongly recommends putting copyright notices in each
source file, it does not require to do so. In the case of ax25-apps, the
upstream tarball claims that the work is being licensed under
GPL-2. Unless one has evidence that this claim might not be true, I see
no reason to think otherwise.

Hendrik


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Re: Retirement News Weekly Yorkton: Issue Fifteen

2011-05-13 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:29:54 -0700
Andrew Harris  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I pretty much never post to this list, but is there a reason why
> debian-legal gets these mails?

Its called spam.
In the list archives every message has a 'report as spam' button which
you can press, just follow the link (this thread is started by [1]) and
report it.
Lots more detail can be found at [2].

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[2] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam and
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thanks,
kk

> -tuna
> 
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, RNW Yorkton 
> wrote:
> >
> >   ISSUE #15: May 13, 2011 7,593 Readers This Month!

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Re: How to use (free!) sources of other projects without copyright/license information in file?

2011-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
I'd suggest contacting ax25-apps upstream to clarify the situation:

http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/Ax25-apps

Also, should ax_emergency_listen just be merged into ax25-apps? Then
there would be no need for code duplication.

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Re: How to use (free!) sources of other projects without copyright/license information in file?

2011-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Guido Trentalancia
 wrote:

> I'll just make an hypotesis. The origin is not very important as long as
> the original author doesn't care about claiming it. Being GNU GPL (this
> is clearly stated in COPYRIGHT), there is no warranty in any case. If
> there is no warranty, then as long as no-one is claiming the copyright,
> it shouldn't matter (for example, "orphan package").

Copyright is automatic, it doesn't matter if you claim it or not, your
works are still copyrighted.

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Re: How to use (free!) sources of other projects without copyright/license information in file?

2011-05-13 Thread Guido Trentalancia
Hello again Michael !

First of all, thanks again very much for all your support and help.

On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 22:35 +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> Dear debian-legal,
> 
> While reviewing the ax_emergency_listen package [1] I found that several 
> source
> files lack both copyright and license information. The reason for this lack,
> however, is that they were taken verbatim from ax25-apps *where there is no 
> such
> information in source files*, as upstream explained to me (Guido, CC'ed) in
> private.
> 
> Both of the packages claim to be GPL'ed as per COPYING, and I wonder whether
> this is acceptable for Debian. Probably it is, as ax25-apps is in main.
> 
> But how would one, in this case, trace back the origin of those files?

I'll just make an hypotesis. The origin is not very important as long as
the original author doesn't care about claiming it. Being GNU GPL (this
is clearly stated in COPYRIGHT), there is no warranty in any case. If
there is no warranty, then as long as no-one is claiming the copyright,
it shouldn't matter (for example, "orphan package").

In this specific case, there is some (possibly incomplete) authorship
information in the original "listen" package. As long as I refer to the
original package, stating clearly its origin (for example it's web
location and name), it is always possible to trace back whatever
information the original author wants to provide (in the original source
package). If such information is missing or incomplete at the origin it
is a matter of the author of that package.

Just an hypothesis or "guess".

> Thanks a lot in advance,
> Michael

You are welcome !

> PS.: Please keep Guido and me CC'ed, neither of us is subscribed.
> 
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/05/msg00020.html

Kind regards,

Guido


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Re: Retirement News Weekly Yorkton: Issue Fifteen

2011-05-13 Thread Andrew Harris
Hi,

I pretty much never post to this list, but is there a reason why
debian-legal gets these mails?

-tuna

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, RNW Yorkton  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>   ISSUE #15: May 13, 2011 7,593 Readers This Month!
> YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT
> Your Retirement By: Brandee Musiala
>
> Eating properly can become an issue for seniors, particularly those who find 
> themselves living alone. While caloric needs decline, a balanced diet is 
> still necessary to decrease the chance of obesity, cancer, cataracts, 
> osteoporosis, stroke, heart disease or joint disorders.
>
> A diet rich in complex carbohydrates, omega-3 fatty acids, nutrients, such as 
> fiber and calcium, as well as vitamins D and B12 is an excellent start. Not 
> only will fiber lower your cholesterol, reducing the risk of both stroke and 
> heart disease, but it will also prevent diverticulitis, among other things. 
> Calcium and vitamin D have also been shown to improve and maintain bone 
> health, therefore limiting the risk of fractures.
>
> Even though it may be easier to resort to frozen or canned ...
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How to use (free!) sources of other projects without copyright/license information in file?

2011-05-13 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Dear debian-legal,

While reviewing the ax_emergency_listen package [1] I found that several source
files lack both copyright and license information. The reason for this lack,
however, is that they were taken verbatim from ax25-apps *where there is no such
information in source files*, as upstream explained to me (Guido, CC'ed) in
private.

Both of the packages claim to be GPL'ed as per COPYING, and I wonder whether
this is acceptable for Debian. Probably it is, as ax25-apps is in main.

But how would one, in this case, trace back the origin of those files?

Thanks a lot in advance,
Michael

PS.: Please keep Guido and me CC'ed, neither of us is subscribed.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/05/msg00020.html



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Retirement News Weekly Yorkton: Issue Fifteen

2011-05-13 Thread RNW Yorkton
Retirement News Weekly Yorkton: Issue Fifteen






 ISSUE #15: May 13, 20117,593 Readers This Month! 




YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT
Your Retirement By: Brandee Musiala
Eating properly can become an issue for seniors, particularly those who find 
themselves living alone. While caloric needs decline, a balanced diet is still 
necessary to decrease the chance of obesity, cancer, cataracts, osteoporosis, 
stroke, heart disease or joint disorders.

A diet rich in complex carbohydrates, omega-3 fatty acids, nutrients, such as 
fiber and calcium, as well as vitamins D and B12 is an excellent start. Not 
only will fiber lower your cholesterol, reducing the risk of both stroke and 
heart disease, but it will also prevent diverticulitis, among other things. 
Calcium and vitamin D have also been shown to improve and maintain bone health, 
therefore limiting the risk of fractures.

Even though it may be easier to resort to frozen or canned ...

Read More...

LOCAL NEWS

Flooding affects provincial parks
Abnormally high water levels have closed some provincial parks ...
Read More...

NATIONAL NEWS

Search for missing B.C. man continues after wife found alive
Police are searching for a Penticton, B.C. ...
Read More...

INTERNATIONAL NEWS

Supreme Court of India taking a stance on 'honour killings'
The top court in India ...
Read More...





LIFESTYLE: Let's Get Physical! Fitness Camp for Seniors
Core Fitness Solution The summer is fast approaching and it's time to start 
planning how you're going to spend those long, hot summer days. When I was a 
kid, I wanted to go to sleepaway camp ... 
read more... 



FIFTY & FABULOUS:
Royal Wedding Edition
With the Royal Wedding upon us, the thought on everyone's mind is: what did 
Kate wear?
Before we get to my picks of what Kate could have worn on her big day, why not 
take a look back to see what other esteemed Royals have chosen on their special 
day! …

read more...

ENVIRONMENT: Composting 101 – Creating Gold for Your Garden
Just like the guy who once looked at a cow's utters and said, "Gee, that looks 
interesting and delicious, we must drink … 
read more...
SPORTS: NHL Conference Finals are here
The Eastern and Western conference finals are set in NHL playoff action and I 
didn't predict so well this time around.
Here are the picks I made and the final outcomes ... 
read more...
SPIN THE GLOBE: Germany: A Place to Unwind and Relax
It's described as both modern and cosmopolitan. It's the largest economy in the 
European Union and was once ...
read more...
VISIONARIES OF OUR COMMUNITY: The Intrepid Tales of a Blond China Doll: Profile 
of Hannelore Headley (2/2)
During last week's interview with 74-year-old bookseller … 
read more...
FEATURES: Goodbye Old Man Winter! Hello, Spring Activities
It's time to shake off the snow, open the windows and prepare for another 
beautiful spring and summer. There's nothing...
read more...
FEATURES: Matrix Repatterning: Revolution for Chronic Pain Sufferers (Exclusive)
If your body could talk, I bet it would have a lot of stories to tell. As a 
child you fell on your bum while tobogganing, when you were a teenager you 
bonked your head on the doorframe while getting out of a car, then you broke 
your leg or arm ...
read more...


I CAN EXPLAIN… COCO'S BEARD
By: Jeff deViller
We have had quite a couple of weeks: Prince William, the likely future king of 
Britain and its Commonwealth, married Catherine Middleton; Osama bin Laden was 
caught, shot, ...
read more ... 
PET TALK: GETTING ACTIVE WITH YOUR DOG
By: Megan Pasche
Getting involved in dog sports with your pet is one of the best bonding 
experiences you can have. Not only is it often a great workout, for both body 
and mind for the dog, but it ...
read more ...
THE WEDDING CYNIC MAY BE SILENCED... FOR NOW
By: Nicole Burgers
Dare I say it? A lot of us may be thinking it, and I'm merely going to be 
echoing sentiments already uttered by many, but I was already getting tired of 
hearing about Kate and ...
read more ...



ENTERTAINMENT REVIEWS: Water for Elephants (2011)
Water for Elephants is a historical and romantic drama piece that contemporary 
...
read more ...BOOK REVIEWS: A Path of Colored Leaves
As the title implies, this book is about the seasons of life – more 
specifically, the ...
read more ... 
THIS WEEK IN HISTORY(May 13 - May 19)
May 13:Today is Blame Someone Else Day. It always falls on every Friday the 
13th. On this day in: 1918: The first U.S. airmail ...
read more ...WEIRD & WONDERFUL FACTS
The name of Snoopy's mother from the Peanuts comic strip is Missy. The sentence 
"the quick brown ...
read more ...
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yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson. "To love 
someone deeply gives you strength. Being loved by someone deeply ...
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