Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-06 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/4/06, Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 07:19:28PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
  Simon Neininger wrote:
   Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
   Technische Universitaet Berlin
 
  Carsten is my thesis counsellor, I'll ask him for clarification.
 
  I have no reason to believe that distribution is not permitted,
  though.

 It's probably intended, but the license doesn't say that.

Distribution of authorized copies per statute aside for a moment, the
guys are from Germany. In Germany, unqualified Nutzungsrecht (right
to use) means a non-exclusive license to exercise the whole bundle of
licensable rights.

Go try to Babel Fish (or alike) translate
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/de/legalcode for example.

You'll get something along the lines of:

-
3. Lizenzierung. Under the conditions of this license agreement the
licenser a royalty-free grants, spatially and temporally (for the
duration of copyright or used patent right) unrestricted simple right
to use to you to use the protection article ... blah blah
-

regards,
alexander.



Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Michael Poole
Simon Neininger writes:

 Hi!
 
 ---8
 
 Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
 Technische Universitaet Berlin
 
 Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not
 removed and that neither the authors nor the Technische Universitaet Berlin
 are deemed to have made any representations as to the suitability of this
 software for any purpose nor are held responsible for any defects of
 this software.  THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY FOR THIS SOFTWARE.
 
 As a matter of courtesy, the authors request to be informed about uses
 this software has found, about bugs in this software, and about any
 improvements that may be of general interest.
 
 Berlin, 28.11.1994
 Jutta Degener
 Carsten Bormann
 
 8
 
 Does the term Any use give the user the right to distribute libgsm?

Read strictly, it does not grant the rights to distribute, copy, or
modify (create derived works of) the software.

Michael Poole


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Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Walter Landry
Simon Neininger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 ---8
 
 Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
 Technische Universitaet Berlin
 
 Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not
 removed and that neither the authors nor the Technische Universitaet Berlin
 are deemed to have made any representations as to the suitability of this
 software for any purpose nor are held responsible for any defects of
 this software.  THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY FOR THIS SOFTWARE.
 
 As a matter of courtesy, the authors request to be informed about uses
 this software has found, about bugs in this software, and about any
 improvements that may be of general interest.
 
 Berlin, 28.11.1994
 Jutta Degener
 Carsten Bormann
 
 8
 
 Does the term Any use give the user the right to distribute libgsm?

Not necessarily.  You should get a clarification from the copyright
holders.  In particular, Debian needs the right to copy, modify, and
distribute modified versions.

Cheers,
Walter Landry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Simon Neininger wrote:
 Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
 Technische Universitaet Berlin

Carsten is my thesis counsellor, I'll ask him for clarification.

I have no reason to believe that distribution is not permitted,
though.

Cheers,
Moritz


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Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/4/06, Simon Neininger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Does the term Any use give the user the right to distribute libgsm?

The right to distribute authorized copies is statutory. See 17 USC 109
 (it is commonly called first sale, but the actual parameters of the
rule are specified in the statute and not some lay reading of first,
sale, or even first sale). Over here in the EU, that statutory
doctrine is known as copyright exhaustion.

regards,
alexander.



Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 07:19:28PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 Simon Neininger wrote:
  Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann,
  Technische Universitaet Berlin
 
 Carsten is my thesis counsellor, I'll ask him for clarification.
 
 I have no reason to believe that distribution is not permitted,
 though.

It's probably intended, but the license doesn't say that.  It's a
common problem with people rolling their own licenses.  It appears
that a permissive license is wanted, and I'd suggest recommending
the use of the X11/MIT license, rather than using a custom license.

-- 
Glenn Maynard


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