Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Børge Holen
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 08:07, Adam D wrote:
> > On Wednesday 16 August 2006 05:31, Adam D wrote:
> >> Sven Luther wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
>  On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
> > Adam D wrote:
> >> BXrge Holen wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
>  OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17" powerbook
>  with ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of
>  booting into xfs.
> 
>  Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the
>  portmap the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It
>  is semi loud and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have
>  the fan spin when booting into Ubunto on startup?
> >>>
> >>> Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
> >>> temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
> >>> together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
> >>>
>  -Adam
> >>
> >> Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into
> >> OSX the fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the
> >> CPU hard.  On Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on
> >> with the slightest thing running.
> 
>  Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a
>  vanilla kernel, problem solved.
> >>>
> >>> Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the
> >>> debian stock one, as well as the version used ?
> >>>
> >>> Friendly,
> >>>
> >>> Sven Luther
> >>
> >> I am sorry for taking a bit long to list what I am been doing.  I have
> >> been trying many different scenarios and using different Debian Install
> >> disks. Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into
> >> Debian.  As soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that wave
> >> on the screen. I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu install
> >> disk at all.  I just downloaded the latest reversion of Debian and
> >> burned the disk.
> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/powerpc/iso-cd/  But I can't
> >> any choice in yaboot that will give me a proper kernel to boot from.
> >>
> >> Is there something I can do because this is my 2nd powerbook that is
> >> very temperamental in using Linux and it is very frustrating.  All my
> >> G3s (b&w), G4s, and G4 xserv all do very well and are running as servers
> >> and workstations quite nicely all the time.
> >>
> >> Stats:
> >>
> >> Machine Name:PowerBook G4 17"
> >> Machine Model:   Powerbook5.5
> >> CPU Type:PowerPc G4 (1,1)
> >> CPU Speed:   1.5 GHz
> >> L2 Cache (per CPU):  512KB
> >> Memory:  2G
> >> Bus Speed:   167 MHz
> >> Boot Rom Version:4.86f0
> >>
> >>
> >> It was taking me some extra time because I have been trying to install a
> >> Debian system and use that so I can compare my configs compiled on
> >> Debian instead of Ubuntu with Debian's stock kernel.
> >>
> >> Is there a way I can not have any graphic distortion with lines
> >> scrolling up on the center of the monitor.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >
> > Kmail seems to be workin' in debian again... ok, here is my .config file
> > for the kernel. And no flickering.
> >
> > Børge
>
> Borge,  thank you very much.  :)  That had helped out perfectly.  I just
> made a few changes with file systems but it worked like it should :).   Now
> I can get back to business with the box and get it configured to the
> liking.
>
> Another question:  Has people been able to get the keyboard to light up in
> Linux for the 17 PB?
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Adam

Everything on the 17" works! except the modem. you need the pbbuttons package 
to fix the lightning.

Børge

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Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Adam D
Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Adam D wrote:
> 
>> Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into
>> Debian.  As soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that
>> wave on the screen.  I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu
>> install disk at all.
> 
> Does this web page from the Linux PowerPC FAQ-O-Matic help any?
> 
> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/1043.html
> 


Not for what I am experiencing but that is a good reference for info I can use 
on older boxes.  Thank you.

-Adam


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Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Adam D
BXrge Holen wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 August 2006 05:31, Adam D wrote:
>> Sven Luther wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
 On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
> Adam D wrote:
>> BXrge Holen wrote:
>>> On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
 OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17" powerbook
 with ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of booting
 into xfs.

 Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the
 portmap the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is
 semi loud and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the
 fan spin when booting into Ubunto on startup?
>>> Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
>>> temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
>>> together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
>>>
 -Adam
>> Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX
>> the fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU
>> hard.  On Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the
>> slightest thing running.
 Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a
 vanilla kernel, problem solved.
>>> Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the
>>> debian stock one, as well as the version used ?
>>>
>>> Friendly,
>>>
>>> Sven Luther
>> I am sorry for taking a bit long to list what I am been doing.  I have been
>> trying many different scenarios and using different Debian Install disks. 
>> Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into Debian.  As
>> soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that wave on the screen.
>>  I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu install disk at all.  I just
>> downloaded the latest reversion of Debian and burned the disk. 
>> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/powerpc/iso-cd/  But I can't any
>> choice in yaboot that will give me a proper kernel to boot from.
>>
>> Is there something I can do because this is my 2nd powerbook that is very
>> temperamental in using Linux and it is very frustrating.  All my G3s (b&w),
>> G4s, and G4 xserv all do very well and are running as servers and
>> workstations quite nicely all the time.
>>
>> Stats:
>>
>> Machine Name:PowerBook G4 17"
>> Machine Model:   Powerbook5.5
>> CPU Type:PowerPc G4 (1,1)
>> CPU Speed:   1.5 GHz
>> L2 Cache (per CPU):  512KB
>> Memory:  2G
>> Bus Speed:   167 MHz
>> Boot Rom Version:4.86f0
>>
>>
>> It was taking me some extra time because I have been trying to install a
>> Debian system and use that so I can compare my configs compiled on Debian
>> instead of Ubuntu with Debian's stock kernel.
>>
>> Is there a way I can not have any graphic distortion with lines scrolling
>> up on the center of the monitor.
>>
>> -Adam
> 
> Kmail seems to be workin' in debian again... ok, here is my .config file for 
> the kernel. And no flickering.
> 
> Børge
> 
> 


Borge,  thank you very much.  :)  That had helped out perfectly.  I just made a 
few changes with file systems but it worked like it should :).   Now I can get 
back to business with the box and get it configured to the liking.

Another question:  Has people been able to get the keyboard to light up in 
Linux for the 17 PB?


Thanks,
-Adam


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Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Rick Thomas


On Aug 15, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Adam D wrote:

Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into  
Debian.  As soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that  
wave on the screen.  I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu  
install disk at all.


Does this web page from the Linux PowerPC FAQ-O-Matic help any?

http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/1043.html


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Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Børge Holen

On Wednesday 16 August 2006 05:31, Adam D wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
> >> On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
> >>> Adam D wrote:
>  BXrge Holen wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
> >> OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17" powerbook
> >> with ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of booting
> >> into xfs.
> >>
> >> Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the
> >> portmap the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is
> >> semi loud and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the
> >> fan spin when booting into Ubunto on startup?
> >
> > Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
> > temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
> > together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
> >
> >> -Adam
> 
>  Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX
>  the fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU
>  hard.  On Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the
>  slightest thing running.
> >>
> >> Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a
> >> vanilla kernel, problem solved.
> >
> > Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the
> > debian stock one, as well as the version used ?
> >
> > Friendly,
> >
> > Sven Luther
>
> I am sorry for taking a bit long to list what I am been doing.  I have been
> trying many different scenarios and using different Debian Install disks. 
> Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into Debian.  As
> soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that wave on the screen.
>  I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu install disk at all.  I just
> downloaded the latest reversion of Debian and burned the disk. 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/powerpc/iso-cd/  But I can't any
> choice in yaboot that will give me a proper kernel to boot from.
>
> Is there something I can do because this is my 2nd powerbook that is very
> temperamental in using Linux and it is very frustrating.  All my G3s (b&w),
> G4s, and G4 xserv all do very well and are running as servers and
> workstations quite nicely all the time.
>
> Stats:
>
> Machine Name: PowerBook G4 17"
> Machine Model:Powerbook5.5
> CPU Type: PowerPc G4 (1,1)
> CPU Speed:1.5 GHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU):   512KB
> Memory:   2G
> Bus Speed:167 MHz
> Boot Rom Version: 4.86f0
>
>
> It was taking me some extra time because I have been trying to install a
> Debian system and use that so I can compare my configs compiled on Debian
> instead of Ubuntu with Debian's stock kernel.
>
> Is there a way I can not have any graphic distortion with lines scrolling
> up on the center of the monitor.
>
> -Adam

Kmail seems to be workin' in debian again... ok, here is my .config file for 
the kernel. And no flickering.

Børge


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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.17-rc6
# Sun Jun 11 02:22:47 2006
#
# CONFIG_PPC64 is not set
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CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_PPC=y
CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_NVRAM=y
CONFIG_SCHED_NO_NO_OMIT_FRAME_POINTER=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_PPC_OF=y
CONFIG_PPC_UDBG_16550=y
# CONFIG_GENERIC_TBSYNC is not set
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_UIMAGE is not set

#
# Processor support
#
CONFIG_CLASSIC32=y
# CONFIG_PPC_52xx is not set
# CONFIG_PPC_82xx is not set
# CONFIG_PPC_83xx is not set
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CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

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#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_AUDIT=y
# CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL is not set
# CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set
# CONFIG_RELAY is not set
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=""
CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
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# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
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# CONFIG_SLOB is not set

#
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#
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CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_

Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Adam D
Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
>> On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
>>> Adam D wrote:
 BXrge Holen wrote:
> On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
>> OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17" powerbook with
>> ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of booting into
>> xfs.
>>
>> Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the portmap
>> the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is semi loud
>> and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the fan spin when
>> booting into Ubunto on startup?
> Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
> temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
> together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
>
>> -Adam
 Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX the
 fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU hard.  On
 Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the slightest
  thing running.
>> Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a 
>> vanilla 
>> kernel, problem solved.
> 
> Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the debian
> stock one, as well as the version used ?
> 
> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther
> 
> 

I am sorry for taking a bit long to list what I am been doing.  I have been 
trying many different scenarios and using different Debian Install disks.  
Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into Debian.  As 
soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that wave on the screen.  I 
don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu install disk at all.  I just 
downloaded the latest reversion of Debian and burned the disk.  
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/powerpc/iso-cd/  But I can't any 
choice in yaboot that will give me a proper kernel to boot from.  

Is there something I can do because this is my 2nd powerbook that is very 
temperamental in using Linux and it is very frustrating.  All my G3s (b&w), 
G4s, and G4 xserv all do very well and are running as servers and workstations 
quite nicely all the time.

Stats:

Machine Name:   PowerBook G4 17"
Machine Model:  Powerbook5.5
CPU Type:   PowerPc G4 (1,1)
CPU Speed:  1.5 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512KB
Memory: 2G
Bus Speed:  167 MHz
Boot Rom Version:   4.86f0


It was taking me some extra time because I have been trying to install a Debian 
system and use that so I can compare my configs compiled on Debian instead of 
Ubuntu with Debian's stock kernel.

Is there a way I can not have any graphic distortion with lines scrolling up on 
the center of the monitor.

-Adam


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Re: wmv3 on powerpc(and all)

2006-08-15 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:17:00PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote:
> On 8/15/06, You <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:24:31AM +0200, Bin Zhang scribbled this 
> >nonsense:
> >>
> >> If you want see wmv3 file without w32codecs, now you can.
> >>
> >> http://code.google.com/soc/ffmpeg/appinfo.html?csaid=5AA777DB19E2BB24
> >> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-August/013521.html
> >> 
> >http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=29074592&forum_id=7131
> >>
> >> I've tested mplayer svn with some wmv3 on my testing/unstable, it works
> >> fine.
> >
> >Are there w32codecs for mplayer on PPC?   I had considered installing 
> >mplayer on one of my PowerMacs, but without
> >the ability to play WMV files, it hardly seems worthwhile.
> 
> No.
> With FFmpeg VC-1 codecs, we don't need w32codecs.
> See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VC-1

Umm, that's not entirely correct.

While Win32 do not work on PPC there are binary codec packages for PPC.
They contain .so files that allow playing some RealVideo and RealAudio
and Indeo codecs for which free software decoders do not yet exist.

You can get the packages from

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html

And yes, WMV3 should work with current MPlayer Subversion snapshots.
However, the decoder is not finished and does not support advanced
profiles or B-frames yet.  Hopefully it will by the end of the year.

Diego


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Re: wmv3 on powerpc(and all)

2006-08-15 Thread Bin Zhang

On 8/15/06, You <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:24:31AM +0200, Bin Zhang scribbled this nonsense:
> Hi,
>
> If you want see wmv3 file without w32codecs, now you can.
>
> http://code.google.com/soc/ffmpeg/appinfo.html?csaid=5AA777DB19E2BB24
> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-August/013521.html
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=29074592&forum_id=7131
>
> I've tested mplayer svn with some wmv3 on my testing/unstable, it works
> fine.
>

Are there w32codecs for mplayer on PPC?   I had considered installing mplayer 
on one of my PowerMacs, but without
the ability to play WMV files, it hardly seems worthwhile.


No.
With FFmpeg VC-1 codecs, we don't need w32codecs.
See  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VC-1


Bin


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Re: wmv3 on powerpc(and all)

2006-08-15 Thread You
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 08:24:31AM +0200, Bin Zhang scribbled this nonsense:
> Hi,
> 
> If you want see wmv3 file without w32codecs, now you can.
> 
> http://code.google.com/soc/ffmpeg/appinfo.html?csaid=5AA777DB19E2BB24
> http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-August/013521.html
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=29074592&forum_id=7131
> 
> I've tested mplayer svn with some wmv3 on my testing/unstable, it works 
> fine.
> 

Are there w32codecs for mplayer on PPC?   I had considered installing mplayer 
on one of my PowerMacs, but without 
the ability to play WMV files, it hardly seems worthwhile.
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