Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Luca Falavigna
Hi,

2014-10-17 16:01 GMT+02:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu:
 I was desperately searching for the announcement how to add an avatar
 image to the bugs in BTS.

I think you have to use gravatar instead:
https://en.gravatar.com

Cheers,
Luca


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How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

I was desperately searching for the announcement how to add an avatar
image to the bugs in BTS.  It seems simply adding an image at

   www.libravatar.org

is not sufficient.  Any pointers?

Thanks

   Andreas.

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Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:12:35PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 Dear Kurt,
 
 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:17:27AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
  If on -vote the required amount of seconds have been reached, I
  will announce that the GR process has been sarted on
  debian-devel-announce.
 
 This is now the case for one GR and one GR amendement. There may
 be further amendments. Would you be prepared to post an announcement
 to d-d-a?
 

This isn't something that's happened in the past, what's announced is a)
that a GR process has started, b) the various CfVs, and c) the results.

I'd be wary about spamming d-d-a every time there's a new
amendment/adjustment to an amendment etc, they can get quite...
commplex. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/03/msg00159.html
for example.

Additionally, it's considerable work to set up a vote page on www.d.o -
the current one took me about two hours. It would be good if there was a
way of avoiding having to do that just to announce something to d-d-a.

What's the actual issue that we're trying to solve here? eg: why aren't
people subscribing to -vote? Would a -vote-discuss or -vote-announce
make more sense?

Neil
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Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:46:57PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:30:54PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
  This isn't something that's happened in the past, what's announced is a)
  that a GR process has started, b) the various CfVs, and c) the results.
  
  I'd be wary about spamming d-d-a every time there's a new
  amendment/adjustment to an amendment etc
 
 Sorry for not being clear. I wasn't advocating for that; I want what you
 describe as a) above.
 

Ok, cool, that's what happens now[0]. What /doesn't/ happen is that a d-d-a
post is sent out when an initial proposal is sent, but hasn't had
sufficient seconds to be accepted as a valid GR.

  What's the actual issue that we're trying to solve here? eg: why aren't
  people subscribing to -vote? Would a -vote-discuss or -vote-announce
  make more sense?
 
 DDs missing a GR by not reading -vote. Since we mandate subscription to
 d-d-a, I felt that a GR process has started announcement to that list
 was the cleanest solution.
 

Sure - that makes sense when we're got a vote coming up. That doesn't
solve the problem of people being unable to get enough seconds, but I'm
also not sure if it's the secretary's job to help with that. :)

Neil

[0] And since 2009. It didn't happen for one in 2008, because I forgot
to do it as there was 7 amendments and I was also trying to get a
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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:
 I was desperately searching for the announcement how to add an avatar
 image to the bugs in BTS.  It seems simply adding an image at
 
www.libravatar.org
 
 is not sufficient.  Any pointers?

That should work unless your email address has configured a federated
libravatar service, in which case you'll have to add it to whatever
server you use to serve avatars from.

perl -MLibravatar::URL -e 'print libravatar_url(email = 
q(andr...@an3as.eu),default=404)'

is basically what the BTS does, so if that works, the
BTS works. 

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Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 03:12:35PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 Dear Kurt,
 
 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:17:27AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
  If on -vote the required amount of seconds have been reached, I
  will announce that the GR process has been sarted on
  debian-devel-announce.
 
 This is now the case for one GR and one GR amendement. There may
 be further amendments. Would you be prepared to post an announcement
 to d-d-a?

As you probably saw by now, I've asked Neil to do this.


Kurt


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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 08:56:37AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:
  I was desperately searching for the announcement how to add an avatar
  image to the bugs in BTS.  It seems simply adding an image at
  
 www.libravatar.org
  
  is not sufficient.  Any pointers?
 
 That should work unless your email address has configured a federated
 libravatar service, in which case you'll have to add it to whatever
 server you use to serve avatars from.

??? This statements opens more questions at my side than its answering.

What I did is creating a login at

   https://www.libravatar.org/

Adding two e-mail addresses (ti...@debian.org and andr...@an3as.eu) and
attached an image to these.

I did not *configure* anything neither have I any idea what a federated
libravatar service might be and in how far I would need to setup an
extra server (since I assumed that www.libravatar.org actually is the
server providing the images.
 
 perl -MLibravatar::URL -e 'print libravatar_url(email = 
 q(andr...@an3as.eu),default=404)'
 
 is basically what the BTS does, so if that works, the
 BTS works. 

I can confirm that this throws 404 for this address as well as tille@d.o.

I admit I feel pretty stupid since so many avatar images are available
in BTS and I seem to have trouble beeing the only one not managing to
add one.  BTW, I have also an image attached to my gmail address.  Could
this be used as well?

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:
 ??? This statements opens more questions at my side than its answering.
 
 What I did is creating a login at
 
https://www.libravatar.org/
 
 Adding two e-mail addresses (ti...@debian.org and andr...@an3as.eu) and
 attached an image to these.

Must be a bug at libravatar (or maybe the e-mail addresses haven't been
verified by round-trip yet?)

echo -n ti...@debian.org|md5sum -|awk '{print $1}'; et al. gives:
8a84f1b37ffab292a4b2cec1b76d6185
or 
3cc5d4b213b5cf0606305927d12727ab

so when 

http://cdn.libravatar.org/avatar/8a84f1b37ffab292a4b2cec1b76d6185

and

http://cdn.libravatar.org/avatar/3cc5d4b213b5cf0606305927d12727ab

work, then it'll just work.

 I did not *configure* anything neither have I any idea what a
 federated libravatar service might be and in how far I would need to
 setup an extra server (since I assumed that www.libravatar.org
 actually is the server providing the images.

We actually have a fully federated setup, so something as simple as what
Sune did will work:

http://pusling.com/blog/?p=274

 BTW, I have also an image attached to my gmail address. Could this be
 used as well?

Yep; we just do it based on e-mail address with libravatar as the
fallback in case you don't have a federated libravatar setup.

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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:52:07AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
 
 We actually have a fully federated setup, so something as simple as what
 Sune did will work:
 
 http://pusling.com/blog/?p=274

In other words:  All those people with proper avatars in BTS have setup
some DNS record on one of their hosts and providing an image on one of
their web servers (Jonas' hint seems to point to the same information).
 
Uhmmm, for me personally this sounds like a waste of time just to add
my image to some records in BTS.  I think I could spent my time rather
on fixing some bugs.

  BTW, I have also an image attached to my gmail address. Could this be
  used as well?
 
 Yep; we just do it based on e-mail address with libravatar as the
 fallback in case you don't have a federated libravatar setup.

The only thing is that I do not use my gmail address for Debian work and
we somehow need to map my other addresses to the gmail entry.

Kind regards

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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:21:32 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

  We actually have a fully federated setup, so something as simple as what
  Sune did will work:
  http://pusling.com/blog/?p=274
 In other words:  All those people with proper avatars in BTS have setup
 some DNS record on one of their hosts and providing an image on one of
 their web servers (Jonas' hint seems to point to the same information).

No, I haven't setup anything myself and just use libravatr. And I
guess I'm not alone :)
  
Cheers,
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Re: How to add avatar image to BTS?

2014-10-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Andreas Tille wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:52:07AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
  We actually have a fully federated setup, so something as simple as what
  Sune did will work:
  
  http://pusling.com/blog/?p=274
 
 In other words: All those people with proper avatars in BTS have setup
 some DNS record on one of their hosts and providing an image on one of
 their web servers (Jonas' hint seems to point to the same
 information).

No, that's not correct. We use libravatar as the fallback for people who
do not have a federated server set up.

People *can* set up a federated server if they don't wish to let
libravatar serve their icons or know their details, but they don't have to.

 this sounds like a waste of time just to add my image to some records
 in BTS.

All you have to do is have a properly set up account on libravatar.org.
If that's not working for you, it might be a bug in libravatar's setup,
or you might not have verified the e-mail associated by responding to
the e-mail they sent you.

My address works, and it works because I'm using libravatar, not a
federated server:

$ perl -MLibravatar::URL -e 'print libravatar_url(email = 
q(d...@donarmstrong.com))' 
http://cdn.libravatar.org/avatar/ef9859f1f5a1fd6442a1ccf872ef

display (GET $( perl -MLibravatar::URL -e 'print libravatar_url(email = 
q(d...@donarmstrong.com))'))

Now, I suppose I could also fall farther back onto gravatar instead of
just libravatar, but I just figured that setting up an account on
libravatar was easy enough that I didn't need to bother.

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