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Re: A Prisonner of the dependency hell
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 04:49:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:03:13AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: I need to attract your attention on bug #310490. This show a pure woody system that cannot be upgraded to sarge using the recommended way witout basically removing KDE. This bug is 100% reproducible, but I have not yet completly tracked the problem, though I have seen pretty awkward behaviour from apt. In particular 'apt-get install fontconfig' fails with a message claiming that defoma cannot installed while defoma is up-to-date. Upgrading with dselect work much better. I did not try yet to upgrade using aptitude in interactive mode. I don't suppose there's a smaller test case involving fewer packages? OK, I have done that: 1) debootstrap woody 2) install konqueror,libqt3 and aptitude 3) move to sarge aptitude -f dist-upgrade want to remove konqueror Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#307202: More detail
I wish to add that I am using an Nvidia graphics card (nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce MX 440 AGP 8x]) using the Nvidia drivers (built from nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.7174-3) and some unbranded generic monitor but has happened since I first started using the nVidia drivers. This happens on resolutions 1280x1024, 1280x960, 1024x760, 800x600 and downwards I presume. It doesn't seem to occur with the basic nv drivers at 1024x760 but I have never managed to put them on a resolution other than that. This also seems to happen on the Politics, Health, Business, Wales, Scotland, England, UK and World sections but not the Science and Nature, Education, Northern Ireland News front page and Entertainment which are fine. Thanks DT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#311092: negative unread messages number
Package: knode Version: 4:3.3.2-3 Severity: normal I'm not sure why but I see negative number of unread messages after I've fetched newsgroups articles. After restarting Kontact the number is calculated correctly. This may be related to the fact that I have set a few newsgroup discussions to ignore. -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.10 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) Versions of packages knode depends on: ii kdelibs44:3.3.2-6KDE core libraries ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libgcc1 1:3.4.3-13 GCC support library ii libkdenetwork2 4:3.3.2-3KDE Network library ii libkdepim1 4:3.3.2-3KDE PIM library ii libqt3c102-mt 3:3.3.4-3Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.5-12 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Prisonner of the dependency hell
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 04:49:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Bill, I don't suppose there's a smaller test case involving fewer packages? After spending a dozen of hour tracking it, I have the obvious headache, but also the following: 1) debootstrap woody 2) Install the following packages: konqueror aptitude libqt3 libhtml-tree-perl libapt-pkg-perl libft-perl 3) point apt at sarge. At this point you are between a rock and a hard place: You can do 2) aptitude install aptitude, but that remove konqueror and perl 3) aptitude dist-upgrade, but that remove konqueror As for the culprit, my headache does not allow me to investigate more, but here some clues: In _woody_, 1) libqt3 has a circular dependency with libqt3-mt. 2) libhtml-tree-perl has a circular dependency with libwww-perl. Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Prisonner of the dependency hell
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 02:46:52PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 04:49:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 01:03:13AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: I need to attract your attention on bug #310490. This show a pure woody system that cannot be upgraded to sarge using the recommended way witout basically removing KDE. This bug is 100% reproducible, but I have not yet completly tracked the problem, though I have seen pretty awkward behaviour from apt. In particular 'apt-get install fontconfig' fails with a message claiming that defoma cannot installed while defoma is up-to-date. Upgrading with dselect work much better. I did not try yet to upgrade using aptitude in interactive mode. I don't suppose there's a smaller test case involving fewer packages? OK, I have done that: 1) debootstrap woody 2) install konqueror,libqt3 and aptitude Did you install konqueror and libqt3 with aptitude, or with another tool? If konqueror is installed with aptitude, allowing libqt3 to be pulled in automatically, does aptitude do a better job of conflict resolution on upgrade? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On May 28, 2005 15:47, Bill Allombert wrote: After spending a dozen of hour tracking it, I have the obvious headache, but also the following: 1) debootstrap woody 2) Install the following packages: konqueror aptitude libqt3 libhtml-tree-perl libapt-pkg-perl libft-perl 3) point apt at sarge. At this point you are between a rock and a hard place: You can do 2) aptitude install aptitude, but that remove konqueror and perl 3) aptitude dist-upgrade, but that remove konqueror Interestingly, not having libqt3 installed (after debootstrap, just installing konqueror and aptitude) alleviates the problem to the point of matching the results in http://release.debian.org/kde-upgrade.txt, which explains why the issue was thought to be resolved. On May 28, 2005 18:48, Steve Langasek wrote: Did you install konqueror and libqt3 with aptitude, or with another tool? If konqueror is installed with aptitude, allowing libqt3 to be pulled in automatically, does aptitude do a better job of conflict resolution on upgrade? Konqueror in Woody doesn't pull in libqt3 automatically, since KDE in Woody still used Qt2. So, this works: aptitude markauto libqt3 perl -pi -e's/stable/sarge/' /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update aptitude dist-upgrade A libqt3 dummy package, without dependencies, also seems to suffice to keep Woody's aptitude from removing konqueror when performing a dist-upgrade. It does nothing for apt-get and dselect, though, so it's not of much help except to eliminate the need for aptitude users to ensure that libqt3 is marked auto. Further work needed... BTW, I'd like to thank Bill Allombert for all his help with this issue. Cheers, Christopher Martin pgpGqRNs6fTac.pgp Description: PGP signature
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