Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm - postprocess

2004-06-04 Thread Brett Carrington
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 12:23:14AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > It's possible you're taking that fact into account:  I'd be curious to
> > hear how you (or others) are ensuring that such bounces go somewhere
> > appropriate.
> 
> Well, fisrt of all, I accept mail for outgoing relay only from verified
> sources, this includes SMTP AUTH or based on ip address. This is of course
> not 100% secure. And second, you should try to not generate bounces. This
> includes spam rejects, unknown mailboxes and virus alerts. All those must be
> rejcted on the smtp level. This is all one can do in his own local
> responsibility.
> 
> For backup MX or centralized mail gateways it is therefore a matter of good
> service to do all those rejections at the smtp level, which might involve
> replicated addressbooks or even pipelining.
> 
> A lot of organisations forget to include their backup mx into their mail
> concept and are the main reaons for bounce-floods caused by malware or
> faked-sender spam. (of course with open relays it does not help if you do
> not bounce, but those are note the biggest source of spam). Direct delivery
> from dialups or open proxies are much more common, at least for the large
> mail providers.
None of this (and the rest of the thread too, not picking on anyone in
particulary) has much to do with Debian-security. Pehaps there is a more
general place this thread can be taken.


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Re: Unusual spam recently - hummm - postprocess

2004-06-04 Thread Brett Carrington
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 12:23:14AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > It's possible you're taking that fact into account:  I'd be curious to
> > hear how you (or others) are ensuring that such bounces go somewhere
> > appropriate.
> 
> Well, fisrt of all, I accept mail for outgoing relay only from verified
> sources, this includes SMTP AUTH or based on ip address. This is of course
> not 100% secure. And second, you should try to not generate bounces. This
> includes spam rejects, unknown mailboxes and virus alerts. All those must be
> rejcted on the smtp level. This is all one can do in his own local
> responsibility.
> 
> For backup MX or centralized mail gateways it is therefore a matter of good
> service to do all those rejections at the smtp level, which might involve
> replicated addressbooks or even pipelining.
> 
> A lot of organisations forget to include their backup mx into their mail
> concept and are the main reaons for bounce-floods caused by malware or
> faked-sender spam. (of course with open relays it does not help if you do
> not bounce, but those are note the biggest source of spam). Direct delivery
> from dialups or open proxies are much more common, at least for the large
> mail providers.
None of this (and the rest of the thread too, not picking on anyone in
particulary) has much to do with Debian-security. Pehaps there is a more
general place this thread can be taken.


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