Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Joey Hess
Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
> I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
> disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
> in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Razor only scores 3 points in spamassassin, so a mail would need to
exhibit two more points of spammishness to be flagged by spamassassin.
I've not seen any false positives frm bugtraq. I consider razor mostly
useless by itself, but it's still worth something as a part of a larger
tool.

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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Joey Hess

Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
> I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
> disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
> in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Razor only scores 3 points in spamassassin, so a mail would need to
exhibit two more points of spammishness to be flagged by spamassassin.
I've not seen any false positives frm bugtraq. I consider razor mostly
useless by itself, but it's still worth something as a part of a larger
tool.

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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:31:24AM +0100, Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
> I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
> disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
> in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Or you can add 

whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to your .spamassassin.cf file.

Luca

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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-25 Thread Oliver M . Bolzer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0600, Bryan Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote...
 
> My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
> perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
> out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
> puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
> status.  

I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.
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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Luca Filipozzi

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:31:24AM +0100, Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
> I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
> disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
> in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.

Or you can add 

whitelist_from *@lists.debian.org

to your .spamassassin.cf file.

Luca

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Re: SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Oliver M . Bolzer

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:03:54PM -0600, Bryan Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
 
> My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
> perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
> out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
> puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
> status.  

I've heard Razor is (configurabule) part of SpamAssassin. I'd recommend
disabling that check because somebody is tagging about 1/3 of Bugtraq mail
in Razor thus sending it to the Spam folder.
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RE:SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
Heh, what's funny is that SpamAssassin tagged this message
you sent as spam and sent it to my spam folder.

j.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bryan
Andersen
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:04 PM
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Subject: *SPAM* SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE
INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

[snip]

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam
status.




SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan Andersen
Sebastian Rittau wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> > Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > > We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
> 
> > Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
> > even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
> > look up the original posting in my spam folder..
> 
> That's unfortunately not the solution.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
> -rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
> over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
status.  

  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=6 tests= version=2.0

is the spam status header for the message I'm replying to.  
This is the spam status headers from a spam message:

  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=18 required=6
tests=INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,NONEXISTENT_CHARSET,EXCUSE_3,EXCUSE_7,REPLY_REMOVE_SUBJECT,REMOVE_SUBJ,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,CHARSET_FARAWAY,DATE_IN_FUTURE,RCVD_IN_5_10,RCVD_IN_OUT_ORBZ
version=2.0
  X-Spam-Flag: YES
  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.0 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v
1.51 2001/12/19 05:20:44 jmason Exp $)
  X-Spam-Report:   18.7 hits, 6 required;
*  2.0 -- Invalid Date: header (no timezone)
*  2.0 -- Character set doesn't exist
*  2.5 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: List removal information
*  3.3 -- BODY: List removal information
*  1.7 -- BODY: Says: "to be removed, reply via email" or similar
*  3.0 -- Character set indicates a foreign language
*  2.0 -- Date: is in the future or unparseable
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com
  [RBL check: found
4.84.114.211.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.]
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in outputs.orbz.org
  [RBL check: found 101.156.42.208.outputs.orbz.org.]

I still end up download the spam, but I know it is possible 
for an email program to filter on the headers before downloading 
the body of the message.  It would be even nicer if Debian 
filtered on it and rejected messages that it marks as spam.  It 
wouldn't be perfect, but it would cut down on alot of them.


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RE:SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis

Heh, what's funny is that SpamAssassin tagged this message
you sent as spam and sent it to my spam folder.

j.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryan
Andersen
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: *SPAM* SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE
INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

[snip]

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam
status.



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SpamAssassin (Was Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON)

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan Andersen

Sebastian Rittau wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> > Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > > We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
> 
> > Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
> > even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
> > look up the original posting in my spam folder..
> 
> That's unfortunately not the solution.
> 
> srittau@jroger:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
> -rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
> srittau@jroger:~$
> 
> And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
> over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

My ISP uses SpamAssassin and it works quite nicely.  Not 
perfectly, but well enough that I like it.  It's filtered 
out about 8M bytes of spam in the past 16 days.  SpamAssassin 
puts some new headers into the message that tell it's spam 
status.  

  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=6 tests= version=2.0

is the spam status header for the message I'm replying to.  
This is the spam status headers from a spam message:

  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=18 required=6
tests=INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,NONEXISTENT_CHARSET,EXCUSE_3,EXCUSE_7,REPLY_REMOVE_SUBJECT,REMOVE_SUBJ,TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY,CHARSET_FARAWAY,DATE_IN_FUTURE,RCVD_IN_5_10,RCVD_IN_OUT_ORBZ
version=2.0
  X-Spam-Flag: YES
  X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.0 (devel $Id: SpamAssassin.pm,v
1.51 2001/12/19 05:20:44 jmason Exp $)
  X-Spam-Report:   18.7 hits, 6 required;
*  2.0 -- Invalid Date: header (no timezone)
*  2.0 -- Character set doesn't exist
*  2.5 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  0.1 -- BODY: List removal information
*  3.3 -- BODY: List removal information
*  1.7 -- BODY: Says: "to be removed, reply via email" or similar
*  3.0 -- Character set indicates a foreign language
*  2.0 -- Date: is in the future or unparseable
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in blackholes.five-ten-sg.com
  [RBL check: found
4.84.114.211.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.]
*  1.0 -- Received via a relay in outputs.orbz.org
  [RBL check: found 101.156.42.208.outputs.orbz.org.]

I still end up download the spam, but I know it is possible 
for an email program to filter on the headers before downloading 
the body of the message.  It would be even nicer if Debian 
filtered on it and rejected messages that it marks as spam.  It 
wouldn't be perfect, but it would cut down on alot of them.


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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

> Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
> even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
> look up the original posting in my spam folder..

That's unfortunately not the solution.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
-rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

 - Sebastian



Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Sebastian Rittau

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

> Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
> even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
> look up the original posting in my spam folder..

That's unfortunately not the solution.

srittau@jroger:~$ ls -l .mail/junk
-rw---1 srittau  srittau   2766614 24. Jan 09:39 .mail/junk
srittau@jroger:~$ 

And that's only the SPAM mail from this year. I have to download this
over ad 56kBit link and I pay by the minute.

 - Sebastian


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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Hi,

Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
look up the original posting in my spam folder..

Greets,
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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-24 Thread Robert van der Meulen

Hi,

Quoting James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> We could start by blocking @aol.com =)
Or by all running good anti-spam measures and not replying to spam; I didn't
even know it was there until people started replying to it, and i had to
look up the original posting in my spam folder..

Greets,
Robert

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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread James
We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

- James

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:25 PM
> To: 'David Ehle'; 'kriss rolo'
> Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email 
> everyone with your street address so we can all come to your 
> house and show you our appreciation! 
> 
> As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can 
> we block this crap from the list.
> 
> Ed
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
> > To: kriss rolo
> > Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> > ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> > 
> > 
> > Kriss,
> > 
> > This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever
> > run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
> > Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
> > Security to this list in the future.
> > 
> > Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing
> > anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > David.
> > 
> > 
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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Ed Street
Hello,

Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email everyone with
your street address so we can all come to your house and show you our
appreciation! 

As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can we block
this crap from the list.

Ed

> -Original Message-
> From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
> To: kriss rolo
> Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> 
> 
> Kriss,
> 
> This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever 
> run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
> Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
> Security to this list in the future.
> 
> Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing 
> anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
> 
> Thank you.
> David.
> 
> 
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RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread James

We could start by blocking @aol.com =)

- James

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:25 PM
> To: 'David Ehle'; 'kriss rolo'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email 
> everyone with your street address so we can all come to your 
> house and show you our appreciation! 
> 
> As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can 
> we block this crap from the list.
> 
> Ed
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Ehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
> > To: kriss rolo
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> > ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> > 
> > 
> > Kriss,
> > 
> > This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever
> > run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
> > Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
> > Security to this list in the future.
> > 
> > Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing
> > anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > David.
> > 
> > 
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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread CaT
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 06:39:44PM -0600, David Ehle wrote:
> Kriss,
> 
> This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever run across...
> but this is NOT the correct forum for it. Please refrain from sending
> anything not pertaining to Debian Security to this list in the future.

I would've thought that at least the poeple on debian-security would be
cluey enough to not confirm legit email addresses for spammers. :)

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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread David Ehle
Kriss,

This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever run across...
but this is NOT the correct forum for it. Please refrain from sending
anything not pertaining to Debian Security to this list in the future.

Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing anything and do not
wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.

Thank you.
David.



SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread kriss rolo
These are the items that iam interested in selling..
Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc.
are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to
selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc

APOLOGISE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL

JPEGS ARE AVAILABLE AT YOUR REQUEST

MANY THANX

kriss rolo
tel:   
0044 182760393 office (uk)
0044 1216864211 home (uk)
0044 7814294018 mobile (uk)

return e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED]

UK ONLY VEHICLE REGISTRATION NUMBER N64 CON
NINTENDO 64 CONSOLE

item 1


hand carved round table with metal chain link in the middle

 



item 2

magnum laurent perrier vintage 1988 champagne


 


item 3

miniture football on stand from euro96 signed by pele and bobby charlton

 

item 4
is a bit more interesting. its a protana minifon attache, as u will see
ive enclosed notes from a web site regarding this and you will see back in
the 50's it cost $340.00 so i could imagine this to be worth a bit. it
also has an original tape inside i do not know what is on this tape, but
judging by who made it and the cost of the machine, the tape could have
some important information on it. heres the note.

 

The Minifon, developed in the early 1950s by Monske GMBH of Hanover(or by
Protona GMBH- I'm not certain), was an ultra-miniaturized, battery
operated magnetic recording device. It could not (initially at least)
record the full range of sounds and was thus limited to voice recording,
but it did offer easy portability in a very small package. The idea of
offering a pocket dictating machine was novel, since dictation had
previously been done in the office. However, it was thought that people
like salesmen could take the machine "on the road" with them. Once on the
market, the Minifon's promoters discovered that many people took advantage
of the recorder's small size to make secret recordings to be used as
evidence, as in court.

The "legitimate" use of the Minifon, as a dictating machine, was somewhat
problematical. Recordings made on regular dictating equipment were usually
letters, and thus were normally sent almost immediately to a typist. The
Minifon offered no obvious advantages over standard dictation equipment
for office use, but its developers hoped to cultivate new uses for
dictation equipment, such as stock taking in warehouses, or the use of the
machine as a substitute for note-taking by reporters, insurance adjusters,
salesmen, and others.

In its original form, the Minifon was a wire recorder, using a type of
wire medium developed by the Armour Research Foundation of Chicago and
employed in many similar devices since the late 1940s. The machine at its
introduction in 1952 had a recording time of one hour, which was
remarkably long, and weighed only about 3 pounds at a time when a typical
office dictating machine weighed upwards of 10 pounds. It accomplished
this small size and light weight in part through the use of miniature
tubes and clever mechanical design. The basic machine cost $289.50-- a
price that sounds high today but was very much in line with competing
office dictating machines.

The parent company attempted to set up distribution, sales and service
networks in the United States. It established a business office called the
Minifon Export Corp in New York, and an existing company, Harvey Radio in
New York City became the main distributor. Although smaller tape recorders
appeared at about the same time, the main competition in the voice
recording field was from an American company, Mohawk, which made a small,
battery-operated cartridge tape recorder called the Migetape. Both
products sold less than 10,000 units per year in the U.S.

After a few years, the Minifon was modified to use transistors and
magnetic tape, further lowering its weight and cost. By 1962 the basic
machine weighed in at only 1.5 pounds. Competition by this time had helped
bring the cost down to $249.50.

The Minifon after about 1962 was distributed by the international
conglomerate ITT through its subsidiary in the U.S., Federal Electric
Corp. A little later, distribution was taken over by the ITT Distributor
Products Division in Lodi, New Jersey. (I don't know whether these were
the same company with different names)

By the time ITT became associated with this product, it had taken on the
name of Minifon "Attache," and a new line of models and options appeared.
These included a hi-fi model, the 978H, which sold for $330.50.Usinga
two-track, 1/4 inch tape cartridge operating at 1 7/8 inches per second,
the machine claimed a frequency response of up to 12,000 Hz, plus or minus
3db.
The coming of magnetic tape did not completely displace wire. The Model
240 series of recorders introduced in the early 1960s were probably the
last wire recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a price of $269.50
used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held 4 hours of wire.
Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the 240S, which 

RE: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread Ed Street

Hello,

Yes we are *ALL* interested in your crap.  So please email everyone with
your street address so we can all come to your house and show you our
appreciation! 

As for relavency goes it is relavent.  Relavent as in how can we block
this crap from the list.

Ed

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> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:40 PM
> To: kriss rolo
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE 
> ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON
> 
> 
> Kriss,
> 
> This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever 
> run across... but this is NOT the correct forum for it. 
> Please refrain from sending anything not pertaining to Debian 
> Security to this list in the future.
> 
> Just for the record, I am not intersted in purchasing 
> anything and do not wish to recieve any additonal unsolicited mail.
> 
> Thank you.
> David.
> 
> 
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Re: SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread CaT

On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 06:39:44PM -0600, David Ehle wrote:
> Kriss,
> 
> This has to be the most interesting piece of SPAM i've ever run across...
> but this is NOT the correct forum for it. Please refrain from sending
> anything not pertaining to Debian Security to this list in the future.

I would've thought that at least the poeple on debian-security would be
cluey enough to not confirm legit email addresses for spammers. :)

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SOME ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR BE ABLE TO ADVISE ME ON

2002-01-23 Thread kriss rolo

These are the items that iam interested in selling..
Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc.
are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to
selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc

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item 1


hand carved round table with metal chain link in the middle

 



item 2

magnum laurent perrier vintage 1988 champagne


 


item 3

miniture football on stand from euro96 signed by pele and bobby charlton

 

item 4
is a bit more interesting. its a protana minifon attache, as u will see
ive enclosed notes from a web site regarding this and you will see back in
the 50's it cost $340.00 so i could imagine this to be worth a bit. it
also has an original tape inside i do not know what is on this tape, but
judging by who made it and the cost of the machine, the tape could have
some important information on it. heres the note.

 

The Minifon, developed in the early 1950s by Monske GMBH of Hanover(or by
Protona GMBH- I'm not certain), was an ultra-miniaturized, battery
operated magnetic recording device. It could not (initially at least)
record the full range of sounds and was thus limited to voice recording,
but it did offer easy portability in a very small package. The idea of
offering a pocket dictating machine was novel, since dictation had
previously been done in the office. However, it was thought that people
like salesmen could take the machine "on the road" with them. Once on the
market, the Minifon's promoters discovered that many people took advantage
of the recorder's small size to make secret recordings to be used as
evidence, as in court.

The "legitimate" use of the Minifon, as a dictating machine, was somewhat
problematical. Recordings made on regular dictating equipment were usually
letters, and thus were normally sent almost immediately to a typist. The
Minifon offered no obvious advantages over standard dictation equipment
for office use, but its developers hoped to cultivate new uses for
dictation equipment, such as stock taking in warehouses, or the use of the
machine as a substitute for note-taking by reporters, insurance adjusters,
salesmen, and others.

In its original form, the Minifon was a wire recorder, using a type of
wire medium developed by the Armour Research Foundation of Chicago and
employed in many similar devices since the late 1940s. The machine at its
introduction in 1952 had a recording time of one hour, which was
remarkably long, and weighed only about 3 pounds at a time when a typical
office dictating machine weighed upwards of 10 pounds. It accomplished
this small size and light weight in part through the use of miniature
tubes and clever mechanical design. The basic machine cost $289.50-- a
price that sounds high today but was very much in line with competing
office dictating machines.

The parent company attempted to set up distribution, sales and service
networks in the United States. It established a business office called the
Minifon Export Corp in New York, and an existing company, Harvey Radio in
New York City became the main distributor. Although smaller tape recorders
appeared at about the same time, the main competition in the voice
recording field was from an American company, Mohawk, which made a small,
battery-operated cartridge tape recorder called the Migetape. Both
products sold less than 10,000 units per year in the U.S.

After a few years, the Minifon was modified to use transistors and
magnetic tape, further lowering its weight and cost. By 1962 the basic
machine weighed in at only 1.5 pounds. Competition by this time had helped
bring the cost down to $249.50.

The Minifon after about 1962 was distributed by the international
conglomerate ITT through its subsidiary in the U.S., Federal Electric
Corp. A little later, distribution was taken over by the ITT Distributor
Products Division in Lodi, New Jersey. (I don't know whether these were
the same company with different names)

By the time ITT became associated with this product, it had taken on the
name of Minifon "Attache," and a new line of models and options appeared.
These included a hi-fi model, the 978H, which sold for $330.50.Usinga
two-track, 1/4 inch tape cartridge operating at 1 7/8 inches per second,
the machine claimed a frequency response of up to 12,000 Hz, plus or minus
3db.
The coming of magnetic tape did not completely displace wire. The Model
240 series of recorders introduced in the early 1960s were probably the
last wire recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a price of $269.50
used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held 4 hours of wire.
Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the 240S, which