Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Hungenberg
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:26:17 -0600, Will Aoki wrote:

  Set LogLevel VERBOSE in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 
 LogLevel is already set to VERBOSE. But even with LogLevel DEBUG the
 invalid usernames are not logged. :-(
 I tested that on three different machines running Debian/woody.

 It works for me on all of my machines running woody, including a fresh
 installation I did last week.

I just figured out that when setting UsePrivilegeSeparation to no
in sshd_config, also sshd on Debian/woody logs 

sshd[xxx]: Failed auth-method for illegal user user from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 
x ssh2

But with PrivilegeSeparation turned on, the username is not logged.

However, sshd from Debian/sarge also logs the illegal usernames with
PrivilegeSeparation turned on.


So I wonder if you do not use PrivilegeSeparation on your woody
installations?


  - Thomas

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-24 Thread Thomas Hungenberg
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:51 +0300 (EEST), Martin Fluch wrote:

 Do you really want to log those illegal user names? If you do so, you 
 would run into danger to log passwords in plain text as well, when you 
 accidently enter the password when ssh asks you for the user name...

I'm aware of that, but there are situations when logging the usernames
is quite interesting.
For example, if there is an increase in ssh scanning like over the
last weeks, it is nice to put a machine on the net which offers no
other services (kind of a honeypot) and see what usernames the
attackers are trying.


  - Thomas

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-20 Thread Will Aoki
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 10:44:40AM +0200, Thomas Hungenberg wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:34:59 -0600, Will Aoki wrote:
 
  Is there a way to make the sshd included with Debian/woody to also log
  the usernames an attacker tried to connect with?
 
  Set LogLevel VERBOSE in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 
 LogLevel is already set to VERBOSE. But even with LogLevel DEBUG the
 invalid usernames are not logged. :-(
 I tested that on three different machines running Debian/woody.

It works for me on all of my machines running woody, including a fresh
installation I did last week.

 Could this be a PAM issue? Is there perhaps a configuration variable
 to turn on logging of invalid usernames in PAM like LOG_UNKFAIL_ENAB 
 in /etc/login.defs?

My PAM configuration is only nonstandard in that the SSH PAM config says
   auth   sufficient   pam_ldap.so
before
   auth   required pam_unix.so
but I've also seen it work on machines using pam_krb5 or a completely
standard PAM configuration. 

This may sound a stupuid question, but did you restart sshd after making
the change?

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-19 Thread Thomas Hungenberg
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:34:59 -0600, Will Aoki wrote:

 Is there a way to make the sshd included with Debian/woody to also log
 the usernames an attacker tried to connect with?

 Set LogLevel VERBOSE in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

LogLevel is already set to VERBOSE. But even with LogLevel DEBUG the
invalid usernames are not logged. :-(
I tested that on three different machines running Debian/woody.

Could this be a PAM issue? Is there perhaps a configuration variable
to turn on logging of invalid usernames in PAM like LOG_UNKFAIL_ENAB 
in /etc/login.defs?


  - Thomas

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-19 Thread Boris Veytsman
TH From: Thomas Hungenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TH Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:44:40 +0200

TH LogLevel is already set to VERBOSE. But even with LogLevel DEBUG the
TH invalid usernames are not logged. :-(


I was explained some time ago by somebody that this is a security
feature rather than a bug.

Some users type in their passwords instead of login names (imagine
that you used to Unix ssh, that does not ask for username, and then
occasionally have to login from a Windows machine with PuTTY, that
does.  I mistyped my password in such situation at least twice :().
You do not want their clear text passwords to be in your log file, do
you?

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 19:46 -0600, s. keeling wrote:
 Incoming from Greg Folkert:
  
  Hey, I have found some thing. Rather than repost. I'll share where I
  posted it.
  
  http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=169321
 
 Zope Error

Hmmm... try it again. I get it.

I'd be surprised if you get it again.

If you do, please send me the backtrace from the page source of the
error page.
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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-15 Thread Will Aoki
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 07:15:18PM +0200, Thomas Hungenberg wrote:
 Hello,
[snip]
 Is there a way to make the sshd included with Debian/woody to also log
 the usernames an attacker tried to connect with?

Set LogLevel VERBOSE in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

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Re: sshd: Logging illegal users

2004-08-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 19:15 +0200, Thomas Hungenberg wrote:
 Hello,
 
 sshd included with Debian/sarge logs connection attempts with illegal
 usernames this way:
 
 sshd[xxx]: Illegal user username from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
 sshd[xxx]: Failed unknown for illegal user username from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 
 x ssh2
 
 However, the older sshd version from Debian/woody by default only logs
 the following when trying to connect with an illegal username:
 
 sshd[xxx]: Connection from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port x
 sshd[xxx]: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
 
 Is there a way to make the sshd included with Debian/woody to also log
 the usernames an attacker tried to connect with?

Hey, I have found some thing. Rather than repost. I'll share where I
posted it.

http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=169321


Check it out.
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