RE: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2

[Del Campo, Damian]

Thanks,

  Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
  Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
  Phone 08 8401 7037(Flinders St)
  Fax   08 8231 1385
  E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 11:41
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2
> 
> Del,
> 
> Follow the instructions below.
> 
> 
> Steve Grady
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The Mouse Pad
> Save this as a file, the pass it through a postscript printer and you have
> a
> replacement for the Sparc mouse pad. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> %!PS-Adobe-2.0
> %% Sun 3 mouse pad
> %% Copyright 1987, Beak Soft Inc.
> %% All Rights Reserved
> %% Permission is granted to copy and use this without charge 
> %% as long as the copyright notices remain intact.
> %%
> %%
> 
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>  90 rotate
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>  5 -40 moveto
>  (This is a mouse pad.  It works!) show
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> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Del Campo, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 29 October 2001 12:00 PM
> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2
> 
> 
> Hi, having just completed my installation of debian on a SparkStation2
> that
> I acquired I was upset taht I couldnt' move my mouse (all the buttons
> work).
> I thought that it was stuffed but now realise that I don't have the pad
> for
> it. (its an optical mouse)
> 
> Where do I go from here?
> 1) I pressume its not worth buying a type4 pad.
> 2) What other types of mouse/keyboard are compatible with a SS2 ie. type
> 5/6
> etc
> 3) Where could I buy a mechanical version? Currently looking on Ebay.
> 4) If I cut out the spacer in a PS2 plug, could I use it & what
> functionality would  it lack. ie 6 pins instead of 8.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
>   Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
>   Phone   08 8401 7037(Flinders St)
>   Fax 08 8231 1385
>   E-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Andreas Behnert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Sunday, 28 October 2001 5:03
> > To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Re: CD Instalation / "not block device"
> > 
> > 
> > "Del Campo, Damian" wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi, I changed the CD drive in my SunSparc2 as I thought it may be the
> > cause
> > > of my installation woes. Funnily enough, I could boot to it and the
> base
> > > installation was a sinch and was all from the CD.
> > > However, after the base installation, when it rebooted and then came
> to
> > the
> > > package installation it couldn't use the CDRom, it wouldn't mount the
> > device
> > > saying that it was "not a block device".
> > 
> > The SS2 (and AFAIK many other Sparcs) needs a CD drive that supports
> > a blocksize of 512 byte. I do not know what blocksize is used by the
> > Linux SCSI CD driver, may be 1024 oder 2048 or something like that,
> > but if you want to boot from CD the "Open Boot PROM" expects a
> > blocksize of 512 bytes. This is also the reason why bootdisks
> > created with "dd of=/dev/fd0 if=image.bin bs=512" work and disks
> > created with "... bs=1024" don't.
> > 
> > I'm using a "Teac 532S" on my SS2 and I don't have any problems...
> > 
> > > *The CDRom is actaully a burner, this shouldn't matter though should
> it?
> > 
> > Hmm. If it's an old one or if it's a very cheap new one there could
> > be all sorts of problems. Better get something that is known to
> > work. I tested my "Teac 532S" with Open Boot PROM V2.4.1 and 2.9 ...
> > 
> > > *Also, in the base installation, when it asks you do change the kernel
> > > modules, should I have tried to install generic SCSI support if it
> could
> > > already read my CDRom & hard drives. Well I did try but
> unsuccessfully.
> > > Should I not try and install modules at all?
> > 
> > If it can read your HD and CD there is no need to install a driver
> > for it. And AFAIK every Sun box has a SCSI controller and the older
> > ones don't have anything else but SCSI so the kernel on the Debian
> > Sparc bootdisk should have SCSI support compiled in.
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > Andreas Behnert
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > To err is human; effective mayhem requires the root password :-)
> > --
> > 
> > 
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Re: Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2

[Craig Ian Dewick]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Del Campo, Damian wrote:

> Hi, having just completed my installation of debian on a SparkStation2 that
> I acquired I was upset taht I couldnt' move my mouse (all the buttons work).
> I thought that it was stuffed but now realise that I don't have the pad for
> it. (its an optical mouse)
>
> Where do I go from here?
> 1) I pressume its not worth buying a type4 pad.

Yes, because they should be cheap, if you can get them. I have been
totally out of stock of both type-4 and type-5 optical grid mouse pads for
a few weeks and I can't get any more. Seems nobody has stocks of them at
present. sigh

I normally sell type-4 and type-5 optical mouse pads (through SRK) for
A$10 each, when I can get them into stock. 8-)

> 2) What other types of mouse/keyboard are compatible with a SS2 ie. type 5/6
> etc

A type-5 optical mouse should work if you have a type-5 pad, or get a
type-5 opto-mechanical mouse (which should also work) and use any old PC
mouse pad with it.

> 3) Where could I buy a mechanical version? Currently looking on Ebay.

There's no opto-mech version of a type-4. Type-5's come in both optical
and opto-mech versions, and type-6's only in opto-mech (AFAIK).

> 4) If I cut out the spacer in a PS2 plug, could I use it & what
> functionality would  it lack. ie 6 pins instead of 8.

Not sure what you're aiming at doing here? A PC mouse should not work at
all, but I hear people saying 3-button MS-compatible mice can be got to
work. I have no idea if there's any truth to it though.

Regards,

Craig.

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Type 4 Optical Mouse & SS2

[Del Campo, Damian]

Hi, having just completed my installation of debian on a SparkStation2 that
I acquired I was upset taht I couldnt' move my mouse (all the buttons work).
I thought that it was stuffed but now realise that I don't have the pad for
it. (its an optical mouse)

Where do I go from here?
1) I pressume its not worth buying a type4 pad.
2) What other types of mouse/keyboard are compatible with a SS2 ie. type 5/6
etc
3) Where could I buy a mechanical version? Currently looking on Ebay.
4) If I cut out the spacer in a PS2 plug, could I use it & what
functionality would  it lack. ie 6 pins instead of 8.

Thanks,

  Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
  Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
  Phone 08 8401 7037(Flinders St)
  Fax   08 8231 1385
  E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Andreas Behnert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2001 5:03
> To:   debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: CD Instalation / "not block device"
> 
> 
> "Del Campo, Damian" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I changed the CD drive in my SunSparc2 as I thought it may be the
> cause
> > of my installation woes. Funnily enough, I could boot to it and the base
> > installation was a sinch and was all from the CD.
> > However, after the base installation, when it rebooted and then came to
> the
> > package installation it couldn't use the CDRom, it wouldn't mount the
> device
> > saying that it was "not a block device".
> 
> The SS2 (and AFAIK many other Sparcs) needs a CD drive that supports
> a blocksize of 512 byte. I do not know what blocksize is used by the
> Linux SCSI CD driver, may be 1024 oder 2048 or something like that,
> but if you want to boot from CD the "Open Boot PROM" expects a
> blocksize of 512 bytes. This is also the reason why bootdisks
> created with "dd of=/dev/fd0 if=image.bin bs=512" work and disks
> created with "... bs=1024" don't.
> 
> I'm using a "Teac 532S" on my SS2 and I don't have any problems...
> 
> > *The CDRom is actaully a burner, this shouldn't matter though should it?
> 
> Hmm. If it's an old one or if it's a very cheap new one there could
> be all sorts of problems. Better get something that is known to
> work. I tested my "Teac 532S" with Open Boot PROM V2.4.1 and 2.9 ...
> 
> > *Also, in the base installation, when it asks you do change the kernel
> > modules, should I have tried to install generic SCSI support if it could
> > already read my CDRom & hard drives. Well I did try but unsuccessfully.
> > Should I not try and install modules at all?
> 
> If it can read your HD and CD there is no need to install a driver
> for it. And AFAIK every Sun box has a SCSI controller and the older
> ones don't have anything else but SCSI so the kernel on the Debian
> Sparc bootdisk should have SCSI support compiled in.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Andreas Behnert
> 
> 
> -- 
> To err is human; effective mayhem requires the root password :-)
> --
> 
> 
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RE: CD Instalation / "not block device"

[Del Campo, Damian]

Thanks to everybody who helped => I finally got my system built.

I used the rescue and root floppies to boot the installation process and
then selected CDrom as install source and everything worked fine. If I boot
the install from CD it does the initial but can't configure or load any
packages because it can't mount the CDrom. Don't know why but with the
floppy start, I can install SCSI and any other modules whereas with the
CDrom boot it won't let me install any modules, hence it can't read the CD
later.
??

But worked around it now so thanks all.

  Damian Del Campo,  B.Eng (Comp Sys - Hons)
  Software Engineer,  SAGRN Project
  Phone 08 8401 7037(Flinders St)
  Fax   08 8231 1385
  E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Andreas Behnert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2001 5:03
> To:   debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: CD Instalation / "not block device"
> 
> 
> "Del Campo, Damian" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I changed the CD drive in my SunSparc2 as I thought it may be the
> cause
> > of my installation woes. Funnily enough, I could boot to it and the base
> > installation was a sinch and was all from the CD.
> > However, after the base installation, when it rebooted and then came to
> the
> > package installation it couldn't use the CDRom, it wouldn't mount the
> device
> > saying that it was "not a block device".
> 
> The SS2 (and AFAIK many other Sparcs) needs a CD drive that supports
> a blocksize of 512 byte. I do not know what blocksize is used by the
> Linux SCSI CD driver, may be 1024 oder 2048 or something like that,
> but if you want to boot from CD the "Open Boot PROM" expects a
> blocksize of 512 bytes. This is also the reason why bootdisks
> created with "dd of=/dev/fd0 if=image.bin bs=512" work and disks
> created with "... bs=1024" don't.
> 
> I'm using a "Teac 532S" on my SS2 and I don't have any problems...
> 
> > *The CDRom is actaully a burner, this shouldn't matter though should it?
> 
> Hmm. If it's an old one or if it's a very cheap new one there could
> be all sorts of problems. Better get something that is known to
> work. I tested my "Teac 532S" with Open Boot PROM V2.4.1 and 2.9 ...
> 
> > *Also, in the base installation, when it asks you do change the kernel
> > modules, should I have tried to install generic SCSI support if it could
> > already read my CDRom & hard drives. Well I did try but unsuccessfully.
> > Should I not try and install modules at all?
> 
> If it can read your HD and CD there is no need to install a driver
> for it. And AFAIK every Sun box has a SCSI controller and the older
> ones don't have anything else but SCSI so the kernel on the Debian
> Sparc bootdisk should have SCSI support compiled in.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Andreas Behnert
> 
> 
> -- 
> To err is human; effective mayhem requires the root password :-)
> --
> 
> 
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Re: boot w/o keyboard

[Thomas Duffy]

On Sat, 2001-10-27 at 16:02, paul cannon wrote:
> Okay, here's one for you. When I boot one of my Ultra-5s without
> a keyboard plugged in, the OpenPROM switches to a serial console.
> Connecting a keyboard after this point has no effect; no input
> will be accepted from it or sent to the screen. This isn't good
> for me. I have them on a rack connected to a beowulf cluster, and
> I want to simply connect a keyboard and monitor when needed.
> 
> What's worse is that the associated console devices don't seem to
> work. getty apparently dies immediately- in the daemon.log I get
> 
> init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
> 
> for all the virtual consoles. Is there a way to tell OpenPROM to
> just carry on normally if it can't find the keyboard?

well, you can set the input-device in the prom to keyboard, but I think
it fails over to serial console anyways.  don't know how to stop it...\

this webpage has a bunch of info about openboot:

http://www.itworld.com/AppDev/616/UIR951001openboot/

you can get rid of these messages by simply removing the associated
lines in /etc/inittab 1:234:blahblahblah... for 1 through 6 and that
should get rid of the respawn messages.  if you use a serial line, make
sure to uncomment the S0 line.

I would just recommend hooking up a serial MUX to your cluster and have
serial consoles on all the boxen.  you can also use a vt and walk around
with this to plug into your machine when needed...

-tduffy

Kernel 2.4.12 on Sparcstation 4

[Mike Culbertson]

I gritted my teeth and went ahead and tried building a new kernel 2.4.12 for 
my SS4.  The build was error-free and pretty much painless, except I get this 
at boot now:

PROMLIB: obio_ranges 1
bootmem_init: Scan sp_banks, init_bootmem (spfn[21f], bpfn[21f], mlpfn[1fad1])
free_bootmem: base[0] size[1fad000]
reserve_bootmem: base[0] size[21f000]
reserve_bootmem: base[21f000] size[3f8]
Booting Linux...
mem_init: Calling free_all_bootmem().

and then it just hangs there, no other messages or errors, I have to Stop+a 
to get out.  I also went back through and made practically everything as a 
module and made the kernel as light as possible, to no avail.  I do have some 
patches applied to the kernel source, but these are 
netfilter/ipsec(frees/wan) ONLY.  AFAIK, none of them should have touched 
bootmem.c or any other core component.  My very limited kernel hacking skills 
are exhausted and I am at a loss.  Any help would be appreciated.

misc. other info:
the working kernel: 2.2.19
non-working kernel: 2.4.12
distro: Debian testing (woody)
gcc ver: 2.95.4
libc6 ver: 2.2.4-3
I'll attach the .config is someone wants to see,  but I'll save the space 
until then.


Mike Culbertson
unixadmin, etc

Re: life is wonderful today!19177

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Re: installing debian from PC

[Ben Collins]

On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:31:22PM +0200, Martin 'pisi' Paljak wrote:
> Hello!
> Ia have a sparcstation ipc, and I'd like to run debian on it. But the
> problem is that I dont have a MAU to connect it to the lan and also the
> floppy drive doesnt work. Could I somehow install linux on it (especially,
> make the harddisk bootable) using an ibm pc ? (What I mean can I prepare
> the scsi hdd using a i386 and then put it back into the sparcstation and
> boot it up ?)

It's possible, but a real pain in the ass. To make it bootable, you'll
need to use intelsilo. To setup the disk, you'll Sun disk label support
in your PC's kernel. To install the tarball, you'll need to understand
the intricacies of the setup process.

You'd be better off finding a SCSI CDROM drive to boot of of.

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Re: 2.4.13 ext3

[Sylvain de Crom]

>My question: do I have to patch the kernel with ac1, ac2 and then with 
>ac3 or only with ac3?
Just ac3 to go from the default kernel to the ac3 patched kernel.

2.4.13 ext3

[Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz]

Hello,

I downloaded 2.4.13 and ac-patch3.

Now I have a working 2.4.13ext3 kernel. It seems to me that my ultra10 
is booting much faster now.
Only LVM was not compileable. Shutdown makes some problems to, but with 
ext3 it doesnt hurts really.



My question: do I have to patch the kernel with ac1, ac2 and then with 
ac3 or only with ac3?


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installing debian from PC

[Martin 'pisi' Paljak]

Hello!
Ia have a sparcstation ipc, and I'd like to run debian on it. But the
problem is that I dont have a MAU to connect it to the lan and also the
floppy drive doesnt work. Could I somehow install linux on it (especially,
make the harddisk bootable) using an ibm pc ? (What I mean can I prepare
the scsi hdd using a i386 and then put it back into the sparcstation and
boot it up ?)

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boot w/o keyboard

[paul cannon]

Okay, here's one for you. When I boot one of my Ultra-5s without
a keyboard plugged in, the OpenPROM switches to a serial console.
Connecting a keyboard after this point has no effect; no input
will be accepted from it or sent to the screen. This isn't good
for me. I have them on a rack connected to a beowulf cluster, and
I want to simply connect a keyboard and monitor when needed.

What's worse is that the associated console devices don't seem to
work. getty apparently dies immediately- in the daemon.log I get

init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

for all the virtual consoles. Is there a way to tell OpenPROM to
just carry on normally if it can't find the keyboard?

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Re: sparc64-linux-ld ?

[paul cannon]

Rich Sahlender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's been a while since I built a kernel on a sparc, have patience
> with me please...
> 
> While doing make vmlinux for 2.4.9 I get:
> 
> make[2]: sparc64-linux-ld: Command not found
> 
> Where is this? I don't see it in a quick scan of Contents-sparc.gz.

I came across this problem today while building a 2.4.12 kernel.
sparc64-linux-ld isn't needed if your GAS toolset is up-to-date.
The kernel makefile checks for this- but doesn't do it correctly.

I fixed the problem by changing arch/sparc64/Makefile thusly:

line 18:
- NEW_GAS := $(shell if $(LD) --version 2>&1 (blah blah blah)
+ NEW_GAS := $(shell if $(LD) -V 2>&1 (blah blah blah)

(I apologize for the broken threading- I'm just now subscribing
 to the list)

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