Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-06-03 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 13 May 2007 09:43, jim wrote:
> Searching this list for "video=atyfb:off" suggests the advice should
> just mention the symptom is the boot stops after "Booting Linux...".
> Then it is not necessary to mention the hardware, although it seems
> mainly reported for sunblade 100 & 150, but was reported for Ultra 10
> too, and other hardware might be affected but not reported here?
>
> For sunblade 100 at least I notice this is fixed in 2.6.20  but
> video=atyfb:off is still needed to avoid the red dots (search this list
> for "red dots" ;)

As this is clearly a bug and less a structural issue, I don't feel it is 
appropriate to document it in the installation guide.
I have just added it to the errata for Etch though (should show up after 
next update of the website):
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/index.en.html#errata

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-14 Thread Pravin Jeeanah

--- jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Friday 11 May 2007 17:13, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> >   
> >> * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11
> 17:12 +0200]:
> >> 
> >>>  On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey
> wrote:
> >>>  > This link talks about having two cards. But
> on some hardware
> >>>  > (SunBlade 100 for example) you need it even
> if you have only one
> >>>  > card, because the ATI framebuffer code the
> kernel locks up hard.
> >>>
> >>>  Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone
> who's experienced the
> >>> issue propose an updated text that covers that?
> >>>   
> >> I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as
> suggested in the
> >> document) should work.
> >> 
> >
> > Duh. What I am looking for a  description of the
> situation where this 
> > occurs (on which hardware for example). On my
> Ultra 10 it is not needed.
> >   
> Searching this list for "video=atyfb:off" suggests
> the advice should 
> just mention the symptom is the boot stops after
> "Booting Linux...".  
> Then it is not necessary to mention the hardware,
> although it seems 
> mainly reported for sunblade 100 & 150, but was
> reported for Ultra 10 
> too, and other hardware might be affected but not
> reported here?
> 
> For sunblade 100 at least I notice this is fixed in
> 2.6.20  but 
> video=atyfb:off is still needed to avoid the red
> dots (search this list 
> for "red dots" ;)
> 
> thanks
> 
> jim

Hello folks

Thanks for your replies, but the problem persists, I
have tried "boot net video=atyfb:off", "boot net
debian-installer/framebuffer=true vga=771".

My sun is an old ultra1.
I have a cgsix video card in sbus slot 2, I also have
a rtvc card in slot 1, I have changed the order the
devices are detected in openboot so that the cgsix
card is detected first. I also removed the rtvc card
and tried to boot. Still no installation prompt.

It boots directly into the kernel, I see the penguin
logo and a black space beneath it, then it says
"switching over to color console..."

Anybody ever encountered this?

Thanks buddies.




 

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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-13 Thread jim

Frans Pop wrote:

On Friday 11 May 2007 17:13, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
  

* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:12 +0200]:


 On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
 > This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware
 > (SunBlade 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one
 > card, because the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.

 Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the
issue propose an updated text that covers that?
  

I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as suggested in the
document) should work.



Duh. What I am looking for a  description of the situation where this 
occurs (on which hardware for example). On my Ultra 10 it is not needed.
  
Searching this list for "video=atyfb:off" suggests the advice should 
just mention the symptom is the boot stops after "Booting Linux...".  
Then it is not necessary to mention the hardware, although it seems 
mainly reported for sunblade 100 & 150, but was reported for Ultra 10 
too, and other hardware might be affected but not reported here?


For sunblade 100 at least I notice this is fixed in 2.6.20  but 
video=atyfb:off is still needed to avoid the red dots (search this list 
for "red dots" ;)


thanks

jim


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-12 Thread Hugh Pumphrey

Frans Pop wrote:

On Friday 11 May 2007 17:13, Emanuele Rocca wrote:

* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:12 +0200]:

 On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
 > This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware
 > (SunBlade 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one
 > card, because the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.

 Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the
issue propose an updated text that covers that?

I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as suggested in the
document) should work.


Duh. What I am looking for a  description of the situation where this 
occurs (on which hardware for example). On my Ultra 10 it is not needed.


I guess that one could add a line to the "Misdirected video output" section:

On some systems with ATI graphics cards (notably the SunBlade 100), 
similar symptoms occur even though there is only one graphics card. The 
work-around is again to boot the installer with video=atyfb:off



[Nishant said]

> You can issue the parameters at OpenPROM prompt itself like this:
> boot net "framebuffer=true vga=771"

It would be nice  if that nugget of info could go into the SPARC 
installation guide as well, especially as SPARCs seem to need 
net-booting in many cases.


Cheers

Hugh

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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hello Frans,

* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:28 +0200]:
>  On Friday 11 May 2007 17:13, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
>  > * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:12 +0200]:
>  > >  On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
>  > >  > This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware
>  > >  > (SunBlade 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one
>  > >  > card, because the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.
>  > >
>  > >  Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the
>  > > issue propose an updated text that covers that?
>  >
>  > I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as suggested in the
>  > document) should work.
>  
>  Duh. What I am looking for a  description of the situation where this 
>  occurs (on which hardware for example). On my Ultra 10 it is not needed.

We do have a br for the same problem (one ati card and no output after
Booting Linux) also on a Sun Blade 150. See #403364.

So, the problem is reproducible on Blade 100/150 with a single (ati)
video card, and booting with video=atyfb:off is the workaround.

On my Blade 2000, with an ati and a creator 3d, the problem is not
reproducible. The order in /proc/fb is wrong, so the kernel output is
not sent to the screen you would expect, but that's already documented.

ciao,
ema


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 11 May 2007 17:13, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:12 +0200]:
> >  On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
> >  > This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware
> >  > (SunBlade 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one
> >  > card, because the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.
> >
> >  Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the
> > issue propose an updated text that covers that?
>
> I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as suggested in the
> document) should work.

Duh. What I am looking for a  description of the situation where this 
occurs (on which hardware for example). On my Ultra 10 it is not needed.


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Emanuele Rocca
* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-05-11 17:12 +0200]:
>  On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
>  > This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware (SunBlade
>  > 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one card, because
>  > the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.
>  
>  Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the issue 
>  propose an updated text that covers that?

I guess that booting with video=atyfb:off (as suggested in the document)
should work.

ciao,
ema


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread निशांत / Nishant

> On Friday 11 May 2007 11:48, Pravin Jeeanah wrote:
>> I am trying to netboot an etch install on a sparc
>> ultra1. When I issue the boot net command at the OBP
>> prompt the system downloads the install kernel and


You can issue the parameters at OpenPROM prompt itself like this:

boot net "framebuffer=true vga=771"

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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 11 May 2007 17:06, H C Pumphrey wrote:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Friday 11 May 2007 11:48, Pravin Jeeanah wrote:
> >> I am trying to netboot an etch install on a sparc
> >> ultra1. When I issue the boot net command at the OBP
> >> prompt the system downloads the install kernel and
> >> boot directly after the message ...remapping kernel.
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/ch05s03.html.en#sparc-boot-
> >problems
>
> This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware (SunBlade
> 100 for example) you need it even if you have only one card, because
> the ATI framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.

Ah, I was not aware of that. Could someone who's experienced the issue 
propose an updated text that covers that?


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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread H C Pumphrey

Frans Pop wrote:

On Friday 11 May 2007 11:48, Pravin Jeeanah wrote:

I am trying to netboot an etch install on a sparc
ultra1. When I issue the boot net command at the OBP
prompt the system downloads the install kernel and
boot directly after the message ...remapping kernel.


http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/ch05s03.html.en#sparc-boot-problems


This link talks about having two cards. But on some hardware (SunBlade 100 for 
example) you need it even if you have only one card, because the ATI 
framebuffer code the kernel locks up hard.


>> I see no prompt so as I can pass parameters such as expert

When booting from hard disc or CD-ROM parameters are passed at the SILO boot: 
prompt, which you get AFTER you have done "boot disk" or "boot cdrom" at the 
OpenBoot prompt. I have never net-booted, but it looks from the instructions 
as if SILO isn't involved. So I don't know how you would get the boot 
parameters passed to the kernel. Anyone else know?


Hugh

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Re: Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 11 May 2007 11:48, Pravin Jeeanah wrote:
> I am trying to netboot an etch install on a sparc
> ultra1. When I issue the boot net command at the OBP
> prompt the system downloads the install kernel and
> boot directly after the message ...remapping kernel.

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/ch05s03.html.en#sparc-boot-problems


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Installation prompt does not appear during netboot install

2007-05-11 Thread Pravin Jeeanah
Hello all

I am trying to netboot an etch install on a sparc
ultra1. When I issue the boot net command at the OBP
prompt the system downloads the install kernel and
boot directly after the message ...remapping kernel. I
see no prompt so as I can pass parameters such as
expert or using a non-signed repository.

When I boot from a sarge from a CDROM, the prompt
appears on the screen. When netbooting sarge the
prompt again does not appear.

Am I missing something? I am using a rarpd server and
tftp to hold the netboot image.

Thanks a lot folks for some help.


 

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