Re: xman

[Susan G. Kleinmann]

Hi Kenneth --

You asked:
> How could that be if xman dose not exist in debian ??

It couldn't be.  If you execute

zgrep xman Contents.gz | grep bin

you'd see that xman is part of the xcontrib package.  The Contents.gz files
are in the top of unstable, stable, non-free, and contrib.

But it really is true that tkman is a _lot_ more useful.  For one thing,
tkman offers a search capability; xman offers only scrolling and visual
grep.


Good luck,
Susan Kleinmann

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Re: Suddenly: "Can't locate module net-pf-4"

[Servo]

Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
> 
> This message has suddenly begun to appear whenever I run ifconfig.
> This was never noticed before, but apparently this has been logged
> into the daemon.log for awhile.
> 
> Oct  1 17:15:55 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4

I had the same problem, also.  It did NOT cause any problems, though! ?
But it suddenly dissappeared as quick as it came... 

Daniel

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Re: smail

[Servo]

ttrimble wrote:
> network.  Now I want to run my listservers on the Debian box, but
> both Majordomo, and Listserv depend on smail for outbound mail, and
> smail keeps reporting errors that connection to the BIND server has
> failed.  This is my setup for smail:
> 
> set for Internet mail
> all outbound mail is to go to a smarthost
> Debian was configured for smail with no DNS
> 
> Please can someone give me some advice, no matter what I try it just
> seems to get worse.
You must also install a DNS server on one of the machines.


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sanyo cdrom (crd-256P)

[Richard Sevenich]

A new debian installer has asked me to inquire whether anyone has experience
with the subject cdrom unit - his installation won't recognize it. At this
writing I have asked him to determine more e.g.
- is it IDE
- is it ATAPI
- what debian version is being used
But in the meantime I thought I'd see if this cdrom unit was familiar to
someone here.
Thanks for any input.
Richard

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Re: scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is "insmod driver")

[John Hasler]

Toshinao Ishii writes:
> It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in
> SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I
> try to mount the cdrom

>   # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
>   mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
> (maybe `insmod driver`?)
>   #

Looks very similar to one of the problems I had.  The CDROM driver is a
module, which was not being installed because "install" failed to run
"depmod -a".   Do "depmod -a", and reboot.

> The kernel is the one in buzz-updates/disk-i386/special-kernels and called
> "boot1440_2.0.5-1.bin" Is this kernel not suitable ? What is this insmod
> driver ?  Please help me to mount SCSI CDROM.

"insmod driver" is pretty useless advice, isn't it?  "insmod" is the
command to insert a module.  They are trying to say "insmod ", 
where  stands for the module containing the driver for your 
CDROM drive.

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Re: xman

[Rick Macdonald]

Kenneth Johansson wrote:
> 
> I cant find any package for xman. 

Ever tried TkMan? If not, you're in for a treat (IMHO) if you don't
mind loading tcl, tk and rman.

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Re: make-kpgk modules troubles

[Jeff Myers]

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to offer the user the option
of inserting a floppy and making a boot disk as part of the 
make-kpkg kernel_image?  
Or perhaps the ./bootdisk.sh kernel-images NOT to require
the .deb format?

I must admit I haven't given this a lot of thought.  But I too was
weaned on Slackware and am used to rolling my own.

Jeff

>The following might be useful input for both questions:
>
>make-kpkg provides a kernel-image package that can be managed and manipulated
>like other Debian packages.  The accessibility of all the files involved
>in upgrading a kernel to the Debian tools is an advantage, especially if
>one is trying out many kernel configurations and/or versions.
>
>Once I run 
>  make-kpkg kernel_image
>it is very easy to make a new copy of the Debian boot disk, using the
>boot-floppies package:
>  cd /usr/src/bootfloppies-1.1.1
>  ./bootdisk.sh kernel-image-2.0.whatever.deb /dev/fd0 1440
>
>This makes a handy emergency boot disk (even though its initial primary
>design was for installation.)  One can't use the boot floppies script
>without the kernel-image .deb file.  
>
>HTH,
>Susan Kleinmann
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>
>
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xman

[Kenneth Johansson]

I cant find any package for xman. I scaned the package file and xman 
was only mentioned once in that file as a conflict with some other 
package. How could that be if xman dose not exist in debian ??

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make-kpkg

[Leszek Gerwatowski]

Can anybody tell me where can i find make-kpkg ??
I've looked for it on my entire system and everything i've found is 
debian.rules in /usr/src/linux. From describtions on mailing-list i gues 
that it does this same thing as make-kpkg but am i only man in the world, 
who doesn't have this program?

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BusLogic SCSI

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Hi,

Anyone know if the Buslogic FlashPoint (wide scsi) controllers are 
supported? What is the price compared with Adaptec 2940UW?

Thanks!
Ricardo

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NFS user/group aliasing

[Gordon Russell]

Does anyone have a NFS filesystem for linux which allows the system
manager to specify an alias file, such that UIDs and GIDs are converted
from the NFS server numbering scheme to one provided by the client?

I import NFS mounts from my local server, but they use GID numbers which
conflict with those found in the standard debian /etc/groups file. I would
rather not change the groups file in debian to match solaris... (ok, so I am
a solaris hater).

I am sure my problem is not uncommon, so before I consider reinventing
the wheel I thought I would check to see if anyone has solved this
already. I expect ugidd is the normal way to do this, but I would not be
able to get my NFS server system manager to run this daemon (security you know).

I half thought I could hack up the standard NFS client in the kernel to allow
an alias file for GID conversions to be specified during the mount command,
but this probably would not be a particularly clean solution.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 Gordon

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Re: scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is "insmod driver")

[Karl Ferguson]

At 09:54 PM 10/1/96 +0900, you wrote:
>Dear Debian users,
>
>I am installing Debian 1.1.4. (So I am new to Debian.)
>I have a problem. Mouting cdrom (/dev/scd0) fails in `dselect`.
>
>In the reboot message after installation of BASE system, system
>says
>
>   ...
>   ncr53c8xx : at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0
>   ...
>   scsi0 : ncr53c8xx (rel 1.12a)
>   scsi : 1 host.
> Vendor QUANTUM Model :TRB850S
> Type: ...
>   Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> Vendor TOSHIBA Model: 
> Type: CD-ROM ...
>   scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
>   ...
>
>It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in
>SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I
>try to mount the cdrom
>
>   # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
>   mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
> (maybe `insmod driver`?)
>   #

I take it that you've tried to "insmod iso9660" and then try to mount the
cdrom as you have there just above?  When I re-installed Debian with my
cdrom I had to do this and it worked.

Regards,

...Karl

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Linux SMP

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Hi guys...

I'm wondering if attempting to use Linux-SMP is any good. Afterall, for 
real efficiency, don't the programs/daemons/utilities have to be designed 
in such a way that they'll make use of SMP capabilities?

For example, if I have sendmail, pop3d, httpd daemons running, on a dual 
processor system with SMP kernel, as compared to a single-processor 
system, would I gain much advantage?

Let's say, for example, a dual-133 and a single-PPro200. My feeling is 
that for raw speed and efficiency, the PPro200 would easily win out...

Now, due to the fact that most ISP usage is dependent on bandwidth 
limitations (meaning that a lot of the time the raw processor power won't 
do much good) what is your opinion on choosing a more effective system? 
Between say dual-133 or single-Pro200?

I definitely feel that on "internal" processing, like compiling, using 
msql, etc, the Pro200 would by far be the better choice.

Regards,
Ricardo

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scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is "insmod driver")

[Toshinao Ishii]

Dear Debian users,

I am installing Debian 1.1.4. (So I am new to Debian.)
I have a problem. Mouting cdrom (/dev/scd0) fails in `dselect`.

In the reboot message after installation of BASE system, system
says

...
ncr53c8xx : at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0
...
scsi0 : ncr53c8xx (rel 1.12a)
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor QUANTUM Model :TRB850S
  Type: ...
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor TOSHIBA Model: 
  Type: CD-ROM ...
scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
...

It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in
SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I
try to mount the cdrom

# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
  (maybe `insmod driver`?)
#

The kernel is the one in buzz-updates/disk-i386/special-kernels and called
"boot1440_2.0.5-1.bin" Is this kernel not suitable ? What is this insmod
driver ?  Please help me to mount SCSI CDROM.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [IMPORTANT] New package maintainer(s) needed!

[Dominik Kubla]

Several people have indicated they might take over the ssh-package, so 
please stop "flooding my mailbox".  If that had happend a week or two earlier
when i announced that i had to give up these packages, then i would not have
withdrawn that package.

Please note that i still need new maintainer(s) for amd, kbd and vlock.

SSLeay may be considered dead, it wasn't useful without the missing SSL-FTP
SSL-TELNET and SSL-Apache packages anyway (and it looked like it had severe
problems too).

Dominik
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Re: nvi error?

[David Puryear]

Hi Mike 

You wrote:
> 
> does 'ls -al /tmp' turn up any vi looking directories that may
> have bad permissions on them?

No, didn't see one.
 
> Btw, I've found the program 'strace' to be extremely useful in
> ttracking down stuff like this.   Try
> 
> strace -o output nvi somefile

Here is the output:
---edited---
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 brk(0x804d000)  = 0x804d000
 stat("/etc/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
 stat("/usr/lib/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 stat("/usr/lib/locale/libc/C", 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
 stat("/usr/share/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 stat("/usr/local/share/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
--snip--
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MONETARY", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_COLLATE", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_TIME", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_NUMERIC", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
 open("/usr/share/locale/C/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory) 
--snip--
 sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [HUP INT ALRM TERM WINCH], NULL) = 0
 open("/dev/null", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = -1 EACCES
(Permission denied)
 sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [HUP INT ALRM TERM WINCH], NULL) = 0  
--snip--

Okay, that's all the edited output that had error in it.
First place I look to find these file was 'Contents' and
only  files that I could find was LC_* in wg15-locale_1-2.deb
but they were not in /usr/share/locale/C/* and no packages use
the directory. Others were not even able in other directories.

And here is output of ls -al /deb/nu*:
crwxr-xr-x   1 root sys1,   3 Dec 31  1969 /dev/null

Is this look right?

Thanks in advance,
David
p.s. If you need more information, tell me.

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Re: Where is PGP-i or PGP-us ?

[Lars Wirzenius]

"Rosenberg Yigal":
> It seems that in Debian 1.1.7 pgp-i and pgp-up were in non-free pkgs, 
> but in the newer dist' of Debian they are missing.
> Can some one tell me why they are missing and whre can I find them .

Problems with US International Trade in Arms Regulations (ITAR).
Cryptographic programs require a license to export from the US.

We're arranging an FTP site in the free world. Stay tuned. :-)

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Re: Two system admin suggestions, where to post them?

[Lars Wirzenius]

Amos Shapira:
> and suchlike, I'd rather like to have a command to turn features off
> and on, like IRIX' chkconfig(8).  The idea is that the init scripts
> use this command to check simple text files that contain "off" or "on"
> for each feature and act accordingly.

A simple on/off is inadequate. I put a prototype I wrote recently
on http://www.iki.fi/liw/programs/cfgtool.tar.gz (it's not there yet,
but should be in about twelve hours).

(Support for boolean and other data types is not in prototype, so
you'd have to write it as:

case `cfgtool --get has-x11` in
yes)... ;;
esac
)

> 2. I also miss the "autologin" feature from IRIX.

_I_ would hate that. I've spent way too much to customize my xdm
screen to like autologin. ;-)

Seriously, sounds like a good idea for situations where console
security is not required.

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Re: ircII.servers file

[Bernd Eckenfels]

Hi,

> I've edited the ircII.servers file, but when I run irc (the version I
> took in the Debien distribution), it doesn't change anything in the
> servers list.
> I've compiled an irc-ii client, and the result is the same.

AFAIK ircII is looking for /usr/lib/irc/ircII.servers" if there is no
Environment variable. This file should be a link to /etc/ircII.servers.

I will fix this in 2.9.3roof   (yes, the 3 is added handish, cause the words
wont sort in the right order for versions).

Greetings
Bernd

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Re: Getting config from kernel

[mattice]

> I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand spankin' new Debian 1.1
> box. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have been compiled in, nor
> could I find a module for it in /lib/modules/current/ipv4. 
> 

I just got this working...  Pretty nifty feature if you ask me...

> So, a few questions:
> 
> 1 - Any ideas on how to get ip_alias.o to load?

Nope...

> 2 - Where is the information generated by "make config" kept? For example,
> suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want
> to go through the grueling Q&A that "make config" puts me through. 
> Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to "make depend",
> etc.?


It's kept in linux/.config .  I believe that make config actually
looks at your current kernel to figure out a default if you don't already
have a .config..  I say this because every time I compile a fresh kernel
it already has 'Y' on the correct network card.  Also, you should be able 
just modify the line or two in that file to turn on ip aliasing, given a 
working kernel source (ie. one that finds your network card.)

Just my $.02

Mike

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Suddenly: "Can't locate module net-pf-4" revisited.

[Alan Eugene Davis]

This is an update to my earlier post.
When I tried to install a newer version of the modules packages, 
from modules_2.0.0-11.deb, I was asked whether I wanted to 
install the package maintainer's version of the file
/etc/conf.modules, I checked it out.  There is a line in these files
about net-pf-4.  I therefore installed the package maintainer's new
configuration file.  But the message persists.  

I will try again after rebooting (obviously).

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Re: make-kpkg kernel_image fails

[Susan G. Kleinmann]

Hi --

You said:
>make-kpkg -r kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb kernel_image

The -r flag takes the revision number as an argument, not the entire
package name.  Try
 make-kpkg -r Custom.1
or
 make-kpkg -r Custom-1  if the '.' is causing problems.

BTW, make-kpkg expects that it will be invoked from a clean top level
source directory.  So if you've previously compiled in /usr/src/linux,
then (I think) you need to execute 
 make-kpkg clean
before proceeding.

Good luck,
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Re: Dselect problems

[Martin Stromberg]

[Klippa, klapp, kluppit]

> > Running dpkg -iGROEB /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386
> > find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb: No such
> > file or directory
> > find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/base/mount_2.5l-1.deb: No such 
> > file
> > or directory
> > dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1
> 
> > installation script returned error exit status 1.
> > Press RETURN to continue.
> 
> In doing an ls -l of 
> /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb
> there is a symbolic link to /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb.
> However when I go to /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/ directory the file 
> sudo-1.4.4-2.deb is not there. The same applies to the mount_2.5l-1.deb file.
> 
> 
> Could you let me know why this is occuring and if there is any way of
> getting around this problem. Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Tejvanse Dhillon
> 

In spite of not knowing anything about the bad links problem, I'll try answer.

It seems to me as if the symbolic links points a little wrong.
Do "ls -l /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/*/sudo*" and see if you get any 
output. Suppose you see 
"/cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb", then do
"ln -sf /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb \
/tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb" and then 
"rm /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb".

Repeat for the second symbolic link.


Ok?

MartinS

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Re: Latex Help !

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi, 

On 30 Sep 1996, Rob Browning wrote:

> Jan Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I believe that there are also tools to go from LaTeX to Rich Text
> Format files which Word understands.  I'm not sure what the name(s) of
> the tool(s) are though.


latex2rtf (1)- Converts LaTeX file to RTF text-format

> --
> Rob
> 

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RE: Getting config from kernel

[Casper BodenCummins]

Joe Emenaker wrote:

>Okay, I sent this to the list once already, but I'm not sure it got
>through.

I was hoping someone else would answer this, because I only have vague
details in my head. (If we only used Debian at the office...) Can't help
with the IP aliasing, but:

>So, I've resigned myself to recompiling the kernel. However, I'm worried
>that, during the Q&A of "make config", I'll accidentally say "no" to 
>a driver that I need. 
>
>The way I'd really like to do this is to be able to somehow extract or
>ftp a copy of the config file used to make the stock debian kernel.
>
>2 - Where is the information generated by "make config" kept? For example,
>suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want
>to go through the grueling Q&A that "make config" puts me through. 
>Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to "make depend",
>etc.?
>
>3 - Is there any way I can extract or obtain a copy of what config was
>used to generate the 2.0.6 kernel that I'm using?

A file called '.config' is generated at the top of your kernel source
tree, which contains a list of all the selected compilation options from
make config, make xconfig or make menuconfig, in the form

   IP_ALIASING=yes
   BLAH_BLAH=module
   FOOBARWIZ=no

This file will still be there after you've compiled the kernel, so all
you need to do is copy it to a safe location and drop it back in when
you want to generate the same kernel.

Casper Boden-Cummins.

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make-kpkg kernel_image fails

[schulte]

Hello,

I tried to compile linux-2.0.21 (manually tar'ed to
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21 with a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux).
So I invoked kernel-package-2.03 using the command 

   make-kpkg -r kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb kernel_image
 
This broke, however, with the following messages:  

  make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21/arch/i386/lib'
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21'
  touch stamp-build
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21'
  install -d -o root -g root -m 755 image-tmp/DEBIAN
  Error: Can't open display: -o
  make: *** [stamp-image] Error 1

This happened at the end of the compile. The kernel and the modules compiled
well, and I installed them the traditional way with no further problems.

I have to admit, that I configured a rather fat kernel with a lot of
modules. The same process (same linux-2.0.21, same Debian 1.1.8) for my old 
office 386 DX33 (4 MB -- I use it just as a print server and as a "news 
window" ;-) succeeded with no problems after 16 hours of compile time in a
"kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb", which installed fine with dpkg.
However, this was configured as a rather tiny kernel with only a few 
modules.

Am I missing something? Or is there a bug with kernel-package-2.03?
As a Slackware "convertit", I am new to Debian (and like it ...), but I am 
a rather experienced Linux user. Should I write a bug report? 
I have no problems with this situation, since kernel 2.0.21 is up and 
running now -- but not the standard Debian way. So any hint would be welcome.
 
Cheers KWS

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Suddenly: "Can't locate module net-pf-4"

[Alan Eugene Davis]

This message has suddenly begun to appear whenever I run ifconfig.
This was never noticed before, but apparently this has been logged
into the daemon.log for awhile.

Oct  1 17:15:55 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4

I haven't a clue as to what net-pf-4 is, or why ifconfig suddenly has
developed a need for it, or suddenly gotten verbose about it.
I have been installing and uninstalling some mail software, and
perhaps some net software, but I cannot get a fix on this.

Does this mean something to anyone?
A clue for the clueless?

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Re: make-kpgk modules troubles

[Susan G. Kleinmann]

Hi Thomas --

A while ago you asked:
> Until recently, I just rolled my own kernel as I was used to do
> with Slackware. But since I found out about make-kpkg, I decided
> to do things the Debian way and use that instead. After much hassle
> wit the broken tar (solved by downgrading), there's still a problem:
> Whenever I try to make a modules package for my system, I end up
> with a message like "Modules not configured, so not making modules".

Then Joey Hess replied:
>Sorry, I can't help you with your problem, but this does raise a question
>in my mind: what exactly is the benefit of using the kernel-package vs.
>rolling your own kernel? 

The following might be useful input for both questions:

make-kpkg provides a kernel-image package that can be managed and manipulated
like other Debian packages.  The accessibility of all the files involved
in upgrading a kernel to the Debian tools is an advantage, especially if
one is trying out many kernel configurations and/or versions.

Once I run 
  make-kpkg kernel_image
it is very easy to make a new copy of the Debian boot disk, using the
boot-floppies package:
  cd /usr/src/bootfloppies-1.1.1
  ./bootdisk.sh kernel-image-2.0.whatever.deb /dev/fd0 1440

This makes a handy emergency boot disk (even though its initial primary
design was for installation.)  One can't use the boot floppies script
without the kernel-image .deb file.  

HTH,
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SMP and /dev/cua_ and nfs module

[Dr. Michael Grimm]

Hi,

yesterday I joined the SMP-community running 2.0.21 on a TYAN Tomcat II
(yes, the working cache modules installed!) with two 133MHz Pentiums,
some SCSI devices, and no network, yet.

My Linux distribution is the lastest Debian 1.1.9.

After compiling 2.0.21 I booted the new kernel with the following results:
- Both CPUs were installed correctly
- The kernel booted as usual (SCSI detection, ...)
- BUT then I got a complete HANG after the message:
  "Configuring serial ports ..."
  (This is the moment where all the /dev/cua.'s are setup. Without SMP
   there are no problems at all.)

Therefore I removed the corresponding 0setserial script from /etc/rc.boot
(?, sorry, I'm not sure if this is the correct directory name ?). Then
I rebooted and everything worked fine. SMP is up and running smoothly!

Questions: - Is this a known conflict between SMP and 0setserial ?
   - What do I need this script for ?

2nd problem:
- compiling SMP _and_ nfs as a module leads to :
  "*** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.21/fs/nfs.o"
  (Without SMP are all symbols resolved.)

Question: - Is this a known behaviour ?

Thanks in advance,
Michael

P.S. To the SMP cracks: 2.0.14 and 0setserial yielded a hang, as well ...
SMP profiling set _and_ unset, as well ...
SMP kernel with modules _and_ without, as well ...


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Re: Latex Help !

[Pawel T. Jochym]

Jan Ramon wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Andrew Stephen wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just started playing around with Latex and was wondering if its
> > possible to to convert a dvi file into a Word for Windows format. Any help
> > / suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew
> >
> dvi to word seems difficult.  I know a utility latex2wp (or wp2latex ?)
> for converting between wordperfect (5.1 ?) and latex (.tex-files).  Perhaps
> you can use this in combination with wordperfect-word conversion ?
> 
> Jan

You can use latex2rtf (std. debian package) conversion program, and 
read RTF file into Word.

Pawel.

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Where is PGP-i or PGP-us ?

[Rosenberg Yigal]

It seems that in Debian 1.1.7 pgp-i and pgp-up were in non-free pkgs, 
but in the newer dist' of Debian they are missing.
Can some one tell me why they are missing and whre can I find them .

Thanks.
==
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System Administrator.
Tel: +(972)-3 5319367
Fax: +(972)-3 5313311
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Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc

[J.H.M.Dassen]

> I'm trying to help myself.  Really.  But, the Debian web pages only
> list mailing list archives up to June 1996, 

My scripts that made the archives then were lost in a disk crash; I've
recently recreated them, and the FTP archive (/debian/debian-lists)
are up to date.

As for the webserver, it has very recently moved to a new machine. Right 
now, there is no /FTP/, no list archives etc. We're working on them.

Hopefully, sometime in the not too distant future, www.debian.org will
function properly (or even improved).

> 10.  Things seem to have just fallen off the face of the earth
>  after June 1996.  What's going on?  There are dead links
>  on the arguably most important document on the Debian
>  WWW site:  The Installation Instructions.  None of the links
>  to the base14*, root.bin, and boot1440.bin disks work. 

Whoops... the announcement was written when ftp.i-connect.net was more
up to date then ftp.debian.org. I've fixed the links in the master copy
which is mirrored to www.debian.org.

Thanks,
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Re: Latex Help !

[Jan Camenisch]

> Jan Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > dvi to word seems difficult.  I know a utility latex2wp (or wp2latex ?) 
> > for converting between wordperfect (5.1 ?) and latex (.tex-files).  Perhaps 
> > you can use this in combination with wordperfect-word conversion ?
> 
> I believe that there are also tools to go from LaTeX to Rich Text
> Format files which Word understands.  I'm not sure what the name(s) of
> the tool(s) are though.
They are called rtf2LaTeX

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Getting config from kernel

[Joe Emenaker]

Okay, I sent this to the list once already, but I'm not sure it got
through.

I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand spankin' new Debian 1.1
box. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have been compiled in, nor
could I find a module for it in /lib/modules/current/ipv4. 

I tried getting the linux-source package and doing "make modules", but,
when I tried to "insmod ip_alias.o", it told me that my 2.06 modules
don't match my linux 2.0.6 (even though I'm using the 2.0 version of
the modules package, which was supposed to fix that bug).

So, I've resigned myself to recompiling the kernel. However, I'm worried
that, during the Q&A of "make config", I'll accidentally say "no" to 
a driver that I need. For example, with my network card, I'm not exactly
sure which driver is driving it, but I know that the card is working
with the stock 2.0.6 kernel that came with debian. Since I'm doing this
over the net, and since I'd like to avoid having to pay a visit to the
physical machine if at all possible, I'd like to make sure that all my
necessary drivers are compiled in.

The way I'd really like to do this is to be able to somehow extract or
ftp a copy of the config file used to make the stock debian kernel. Then,
I'd know that I was starting from something that I *know* works, and I
could then make incremental changes to that.

So, a few questions:

1 - Any ideas on how to get ip_alias.o to load?

2 - Where is the information generated by "make config" kept? For example,
suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want
to go through the grueling Q&A that "make config" puts me through. 
Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to "make depend",
etc.?

3 - Is there any way I can extract or obtain a copy of what config was
used to generate the 2.0.6 kernel that I'm using?

- Joe

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smail problem: file table overflow

[Joey Hess]

>From /var/log/smail/paniclog:

09/29/96 09:09:44: [m0v7Hse-000Cu6C] cannot open /var/log/smail/logfile:
File table overflow

09/29/96 09:09:44: [m0v7Hse-000Cu6C] cannot open /var/log/smail/paniclog:
File table overflow

>From /var/log/messages:

Sep 29 05:09:30 kite kernel: Unable to load interpreter
Sep 29 05:09:33 kite last message repeated 2 times

At 5 in the morning, my system sends out some 300 email messages.. I think
smail ran out of file handles or something. I believe another casulty of
this was the cron daemon, which died at about the same time. I'm running
debian 1.1.9, linux 2.0.21.

Is smail suited to handling the load I'm subjecting it to? Maybe I should
change MTA's..

-- 
#!/bin/perl -sp0777i

smail

[ttrimble]

Ok, I need help.  I have a Debian box ver 1.1, I'm running smail on 
it.  It does not have a ppp or slip connection to the Internet, 
therefore it has no real DNS ability, but it does connect via a 
network card to our mail server that is handling all mail for our 
network.  Now I want to run my listservers on the Debian box, but 
both Majordomo, and Listserv depend on smail for outbound mail, and 
smail keeps reporting errors that connection to the BIND server has 
failed.  This is my setup for smail:

set for Internet mail 
all outbound mail is to go to a smarthost
Debian was configured for smail with no DNS

Please can someone give me some advice, no matter what I try it just 
seems to get worse.

Thanks...
Tim Trimble

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multiple debian installs

[Frederic Lepied]

How can I install multiple hosts with he same configuration ?

Can I share /usr between them ?

How can I redo the same install done with dselect for another machine ?

Fred

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Re: need developer mailing-list requests again

[Larry 'Daffy' Daffner]

Bruce Perens writes:
-> I now have control over the mailing lists. If you are a Debian package
-> maintainer and are not _currently_ getting debian-private (there were
-> several messages today), please write to me.
-> 
-> I also (hopefully) have fixed it so that it will handle those "unsubscribe"
-> requests properly.

Hi Bruce,

I had requested to be added to the development list, as I'll be taking
over the pdksh package, but I never got added. Also, I've got packages
for xcolorsel, xscreensaver, and zgv that I set up to figure out how
to make packages.  If there's interest, I can maintain public versions
of theose, too...

-Larry


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Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc

[Larry 'Daffy' Daffner]

Jeff Blaine writes:

-> I'm running a fresh copy of Debian 1.1.9
-> 
-> So, a few questions and some comments:
-> 
-> 1.  Where is the secret stash of user-packaged packages?  I'm looking
-> for SSH, NcFTP, and a few other things.  I've looked in
-> ftp.debian.org:/debian/contrib/binary, but there are only a
-> handful of things there.

There's a fair amount of stuff in non-free.  Non-free doesn't mean you
have to pay for it, it just means that there are extra restrictions on
it's distribution and/or use, usally of the form "Free for
non-commercial use". I know ncftp falls in this category. I don't know
if a debian version of ssh exists yet...

-> 2.  My X server is not recognizing Backspace in Motif programs such as
-> Netscape Navigator 3.0.  I grabbed the XKeysymDB from the Netscape
-> tar.gz file on ftp.netscape.com and diff'd it with the one in
-> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and there appear to be no relevant differences.

This is because the default setup makes both the backspace and delete
keys do Delete.  Use either xmodmap or xkeycaps to change this.  I use
xmodmap .xmodmap, where .xmodmap contains the line
keycode 0x6B =  BackSpace

This makes the Delete key send a backspace (It's more compatible with
my key usage :).  Don't know what the keycode is for backspace,
offhand.

-> 3.  As user 'jblaine', I was unable to run X due to the X server needing
-> to put a file in /var/run.  I had to chmod u+s my X server for the
-> time being, which I'm not all too thrilled about.  Any advice?

How are you starting X? My setup works OK.  /usr/bin/X11/X is a suid
program which runs the approptriate Xserver.

-Larry

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Re: ipfwadm

[Simon Martin]

> From: Gerry Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Simon Martin wrote:
>
>> 2) recompiled the kernel experimental, with the masquerade, firewall,
etc
>> enabled, ip forwarding, etc disabled, as per the instructions in the
>> IP_MASQUERADE mini howto. (I can connect to my ISP without any problems)
>
>If I understand you right, you're saying you disabled IP forwarding?
>Are you sure the masq mini howto said to do this? I'm quite sure you need
>IP forwarding enabled to use masquerading. In fact, the latest kernels
>don't even allow you to enable masquerading unless IP forwarding is also
>enabled first.
>
>Gerry

Sorry Gerry, I was misleading you. I just checked my config and
CONFIG_IP_FORWARDING is enabled.

In another mail:

>From: Giuseppe Vacanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

># Forward packets from ds3-net, masquerading as deselby.xs4all.nl.
>ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -V 192.168.1.1
>ipfwadm -F -p deny

I can see how this will masquerade/forward all messages coming in on
network 192.168.1, going to any IP address via 192.168.1.1 (i.e. the
server). Before I set this up on a running network I would like to be able
to test IP masquerading/forwarding on the server in isolation first.

As far as I can see diald should set up a static SLIP interface with a
given IP address and, upon demand, dial out to an ISP, connect using PPP
and generate a PPP interface, as follows

SLIP: interface IP: 192.168.2.1

PPP: interface IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the dynamic ISP assigned IP address. If I turn
reroute off in diald, some software must forward packets from the SLIP
interface (which receives the original request) to the PPP interface which
is connected to the real world. I was hoping to be able to use ipfw to do
this.

1) Watching the changes that occur even with reroute turned off both the
SLIP and PPP interfaces are modified when diald connects

2) In the following configuration:IP:


 --
 | server |
 | 192.168.1.1|
 ||
-- PPP|
 |  ^ |
 |  V | net: 192.168.1.0
 | SLIP <--> Ethernet ---
 --

should the ==192.168.1.1

3) Is there any way of testing forwarding/masquerading withount "going
live"?

Thanks already to Gerry and Giuseppe. Are there any more suggestions? 

"Simon Martin"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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One more thing...

[Eloy F. Macha]

Hello again...

 i forgot to include this last question on my previous post.

 I have implemented quotas on one of our servers here, onthe /home 
filesystem. W/NIS and NFS we have anothe system using /home also.

anyhow, when i check quotas on the client (quota -v), the server spawns
off 40 rpc.rquotad processes.  Is this normal?? I was reading the man 
pages for rpc.rquotad, and it mentions that it needs to be kicked off at 
bootup time, along with rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. ( i haven't tried the 
latter... yet). anyhow, what is the correct method??? any help appreciated..
--Frank

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Re: Available tools for making clickable WWW imagemaps?

[Susan G. Kleinmann]

> Are there such tools in Debian packages? 
Not that I know of.

> If not, what do you recommend me
> (I only known mapedit 1.1.2) that I could get and Debianize?
Here's a short list:
Glorglox:  http://www.uunet.ca/~tomr/glorglox/ 

gd:http://www.boutell.com/gd/  
(This is a C library.)

cyberview3d:   http://www.geom.umn.edu/apps/cyberview3d/about.html

HTH,
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Questions on packages.(nis,shadow..)..only a couple ;)

[Eloy F. Macha]

Hello,

 A couple questions on NIS and shadow passwd support... has anyone 
 succesfully compiled the yppasswdd w/ shadow support?? I got the
 experimental shadow package (along with source..) and it works fine,
 like a charm...

 On the yppasswdd man page, shadow support is mentioned, but the package 
needs to be recompiled to support shadow... (why doesn't it have built in 
support as packaged?? granted it is a feature, but other packages  
wu-ftpd, xlockmore, etc, have built in support.. anyway)

 so i go ahead and just recompile the yppasswdd program. When compiling the
 update.c file, it complains that it cannot find any reference to spw_*
 functions (* = lock,unlock,etc..). Anyhow, has anyone succesfully 
recompiled yppasswdd to support shadow?? if so, any hints/suggestions 
appreciated...

 Another question... what is the 'standard' for this issue going to be?? In
other words, is shadow the Linux thing (or Debian, for that matter), or 
are we looking to other alternatives?? 

 Thanks for your time guys,

 -Frank

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Any way to extract current kernel config?

[Joe Emenaker]

I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand-spankin' new Debian 1.1 box.
It doesn't appear to be compiled in, and  I couldn't find it in
/lib/modules/current/ipv4. 

So, my last recourse is to compile a new kernel. However, the thing I'm 
afraid of is not compiling in some feature that is in the stock
debian 1.1 kernel. An example would be my network card. I'm not sure 
what driver my network card is being driven by; I just know that it's
working right now, and I'd hate to accidentally not compile its driver
into the kernel (especially since I'm doing this all over the net, and,
if the networking stops working, I'll have to actually pay a visit to the
physical machine).

So, I have a few questions:

1 - To save me the trouble, does anyone have an ip_alias.o that works with
the 2.0.6 kernel? You can send it to me via MIME, if you please.

2 - When I run "make config" on the kernel source, where is that info
put? Say, for example, that I forgot to enable *one* driver that I 
needed, and I didn't want to go back through that torturous Q&A of
"make config" again. Where's the file I can go to to change that
single "N" to a "Y" and run "make depend" again.

3 - Suppose I wanted to make my new kernel as identical to the stock one;
basically as a good place to start from while I turn on IP aliasing.
Is there a way to extract (or a place to get) the the config file that
was used to make the kernel I've got? Is there any chance that the
default settings for the debian kernel-source package are set to
the same settings as what generated the current kernel?

Thanks in advance.

- Joe

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Re: 386 Dx-40

[Servo]

Lindsay Allen wrote:
> > AND THEN... go back to your 386 and run make install, make modules, make
> > modules_install
> 
> make modules will take an hour.  I am puzzled as to why I should not just
> continue with the chroot idea and do the while job that way.
> 
> I learned a lot out of this, so many thanks.  (I'm a retired pilot and
> must admit to getting a bit slow these days.  I should have discovered
> Unix 10 years ago.)
> 
> I also discovered and set up svgatextmode today so I'm having a great day!
> 
> Lindsay

Uhm, yes, I guess you could also do the make modules as chroot, also.


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