Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:17:52AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and > notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than > some folk) (cyan). So my posts and any replies/references stand out. Drifting off the off-topic thread... ;) So, how do you have that setup? I suppose the same way I do. Let's see: color header whitedefault "^from: * color header whitedefault "^subject: * color index yellow black "~x hank\.org" # References color index green black "~i hank\.org" # Message ID color index blue black "~h In-Reply-To:.*hank\.org I use imap, and I had those setup on my laptop (which is normally on my LAN). I was away on a trip and forgot I had those set and, man, it was slow reading my mail. I find that things like D. (Delete messages matching) are really slow in mutt due to those header checks. I assume that's because the entire message is fetched from the imap server. I don't suppose it's possible with imap to fetch just the message headers and save some of that bandwidth. It's interesting how much spam I get that's color coded. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting HP to support Debian
David Palmer. wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:19:55 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Colin Watson wrote: They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any other company in the world. If you think all that's unauthorized by their board, you're delusional, pure and simple. Any ideas on how to get them to sell me a laptop with Debian (or any flavor of GNU/Linux) preinstalled then? I haven't had any luck with them on this so far? Is it that the market is so small that they are uwilling to try? or do customers not complain enough? -Roberto I don't know about preinstalls, but a friend spent the best part of a day doing Debian installs on notebooks for a dealer that was getting a lot of enquiries and wanted to know what the true oil was. His favourite install was on the new Omni, he was very impressed, and the dealer gave him $500.00 Canadian off the price for the day, so he was happy. With that kind of market reaction, I don't think it will be too long before Linux preinstallations are available, but I'd still prefer to do my own. Regards, David. As do I. However, my point about the preinstall, is that you at least *know* that everything works under Linux if they preinstall it. As it stands now, you never really know if all the hardware is supported. Even if they would sell it blank (no OS) and certify that it works with Linux, I would be happy with that (since I wouldn't have to pay the M$ tax). I would actually prefer the latter arrangement, since I would likely wipe whatever version was on there and install my own. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:09:56PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You should be able to do this in a hook too to turn this on and off in > particular lists automatically. WARNING! Untested! > > folder-hook . "unmy_hdr Reply-To" > folder-hook =debian-user "my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Can you set more than one email address in a Reply-To? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oK6zUzgNqloQMwcRAm+4AKCq+orRZNhX50uRXBdfjrA3FEbwDACgwCpX UZgz0IvGFAY/T7+ehT/2IAU= =5dBz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Joyce, Matthew wrote: Hi. How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! yay! Thanks You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to copy the data somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion (that I can think of). ext2 -> ext3, nope. fat32 -> ntfs, nope. Point taken. I was thinking of switching between reiserfs, xfs, jfs, and so on. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:25 +1100 > "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to > > > copy the data > > > > somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion > > > (that I can think of). nope .. as she says.. > > ext2 -> ext3, nope. > > fat32 -> ntfs, nope. > > and your point? i think the point was to convert ext2 into ext3 does NOT require any copy of data in order to use the new ext3 fs and similarly for fat32->ntfs (no saving of data needed b4 conversions) but, its best to convert fat32 to ntfs if you're running win2k,winnt, etc - save the data someplace, reformat and restore its conversely better too run fat32 for those same win2k, winnt, etc - leave it alone .. and just use it its better, if you expect/want linux to write and erase files on the windoze box thats running win2k, winnt c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is Gnome-Freecell?
It has been dropped in favour of the freecell that is part of Aisle Riot (/usr/games/sol). -- Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
Paul Johnson wrote: > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > You can accomplish this by setting the "Reply-To" header of your own > > posts. Though some lists will strip and/or rewrite this (considered > > harmful, GIYF). > > For the people wanting to experiment, care to give a muttrc example? my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should be able to do this in a hook too to turn this on and off in particular lists automatically. WARNING! Untested! folder-hook . "unmy_hdr Reply-To" folder-hook =debian-user "my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Note that I don't use reply-to so this is untested by me but I believe it should work. And probably there is a way to use one of the other hooks such as send-hook to do this more nicely. Generally I see Reply-To as a special override and it should not be used if it is not needed. I don't think using it generally to cover up for people's netiquette problems is appropriate. But in particular cases where I suspect the person will reply to me directly instead of to the mailing list I have used it myself to deflect that problem. :-/ An amazing number of people reply directly to the first poster that helps them on any given list. This is one of the other netiquette problems. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:59:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and > > > notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than > > > some folk) (cyan). So my posts and any replies/references stand out. > > > > O, tell me how! > > Since Karsten volunteered this we will use his posts as an > example. Mine aren't as interesting. :-) > > folder-hook . "color index cyan black '~f kmself'" As my nephew would say... "SWEET!" thanks :) emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting HP to support Debian
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:19:55 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > > They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated > > quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology > > Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian > > developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any > > other company in the world. If you think all that's unauthorized by > > their board, you're delusional, pure and simple. > > Any ideas on how to get them to sell me a laptop with Debian (or > any flavor of GNU/Linux) preinstalled then? I haven't had any luck > with them on this so far? Is it that the market is so small that > they are uwilling to try? or do customers not complain enough? > > -Roberto > I don't know about preinstalls, but a friend spent the best part of a day doing Debian installs on notebooks for a dealer that was getting a lot of enquiries and wanted to know what the true oil was. His favourite install was on the new Omni, he was very impressed, and the dealer gave him $500.00 Canadian off the price for the day, so he was happy. With that kind of market reaction, I don't think it will be too long before Linux preinstallations are available, but I'd still prefer to do my own. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Matt -- > -Original Message- > From: Rodney D. Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 4:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3 > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:25 +1100 > "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>Hi. > > > >>How can i do this without losing the data on my > NTFS partition? > > > >>This is the final step for moving completely from > > > windows to linux! > > > >>yay! > > > >>Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to > > > copy the data > > > > somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion > > > (that I can think of). > > > > > > > ext2 -> ext3, nope. > > fat32 -> ntfs, nope. > > and your point? > > ext2 is built on top of ext2. > > fat32 to ntfs, kissing cousins, micro$oft filesystems. they > are related, and not very different. > My point is, not all filesystems conversions require a backup/partition/format/restore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and > > notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than > > some folk) (cyan). So my posts and any replies/references stand out. > > O, tell me how! Since Karsten volunteered this we will use his posts as an example. Mine aren't as interesting. :-) folder-hook . "color index cyan black '~f kmself'" Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 19:08, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:46:31 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. > >This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > >Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? > > No, but perhaps Hotmail took heed of suggestions to reject viruses at > >SMTP time. > > If so, then that gives us ONE good thing to say about MicroSquish. But since HotMail still runs on FreeBSD, the SysAdmins probably just installed procmail. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California." Edsger Dijkstra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too Slow - what'd I break?
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:17, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Daniel L. Miller wrote: > > Howdy all. > > > > I've converted a Pentium II-350mhz w/ 128M RAM workstation from Windoze > > to Debian. Unfortunately, it seems that many operations are far slower > > - especially disk access. I've pasted the output of below. I > > do see some error messages regarding VFS mounts. I also see errors > > regarding mounts during bootup that are not shown in the > > output - I'd also appreciate knowing what these bootup messages are > > indicating and how to fix 'em. > > > > This is using the latest unstable kernel-image-2.4-686 package, as well > > as the lowlatency and preempt patches. > > Have you enabled DMA on your disk? > > Use hdparm (install via apt-get if you don't have it) and try > something like: > > hdparm -c1 -m16 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda > > However, carefully read the documentation. I believe that in most > cases DMA is disabled by default becuase some drive/chipset combos > are buggy, which can cause severe corruption of data if DMA is > enabled. His dmesg output shows that the box is running in UDMA(33) mode, which sounds about right for a box that old. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Why should we not accept all in favor of woman suffrage to our platform and association even though they be rabid pro-slavery Democrats." Susan B. Anthony, _History_of_Woman_Suffrage_ http://www.ifeminists.com/introduction/essays/introduction.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:08:55 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nathan Poznick wrote: > > Thus spake Frederico Rodrigues Abraham: > > > >>Hi. > >>How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > >>This is the final step for moving completely from windows to > >linux! > yay! > >>Thanks > > > > > > You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to copy the > > data somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. > > > > > > That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion (that I can > think of). > > -Roberto > I just tried a search on Freshmeat because I saw a reference to an app either in todays' Fresh Meat newsletter or Source Forge. I can't see it on Fresh Meats' site, so it must have been Sorce Forge, but their site is down for maintenance. As soon as it's up, do a search, or read todays' or yesterdays' onsite newsletter. The name of the app was ntfs something, so ntfs should give it to you. It stated something about a utility that could read ntfs, or work an ntfs structure from within Linux, and it was an updated release with considerably greater functionality than previously. Unfortunately, I didn't take much notice, as I don't intend to do any work in the future with this format, but it sounds as though it might be exactly what you may need. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:17:52AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > You can accomplish this by setting the "Reply-To" header of your own > posts. Though some lists will strip and/or rewrite this (considered > harmful, GIYF). For the people wanting to experiment, care to give a muttrc example? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oKa8UzgNqloQMwcRAmdXAKCSiA6+17vI2W8fgATGYgfE0h3cvwCcDSCb NsvHShRXIKjfmzvFuarPhVc= =jS1l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time is runnign too fast
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 13:17, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:23:08PM -0600, Ron Jr insinuated: > > "'Most girls up through adult women become frightened and > > confused, often hysterical when presented with a traditional > > command prompt,' Cesterino explained, 'therefore the console > > program available through the B-Menu in BarbieOS features pink > > text on a flowered background so as to not intimidate or threaten > > females, and all windows are circular instead of the usual > > square, since most females unconsciously associate a circular > > shape with inclusiveness and the womb.'" > > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm > > oh my god, i can't decide if that link is hilarious or what ... > > "Barbie Wizards guide girls through the process of partitioning > their disks, formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and > installing packages. > > This kind of attention to detail and thorough understanding of > female limitations also shows in the step by step Barbie Wizards > that guide girls through the process of partitioning their disks, > formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and installing packages. > During the installation, girls are allowed to play a fashion-plate > game or view a slideshow of rainbows, kittens, and Mattel products." > > !! > > is this a joke?? No, I don't think so. What makes you think that this passage is a joke? "Most girls up through adult women become frightened and confused, often hysterical when presented with a traditional command prompt," Cesterino explained, "therefore the console program available through the B-Menu in BarbieOS features pink text on a flowered background so as to not intimidate or threaten females, and all windows are circular instead of the usual square, since most females unconsciously associate a circular shape with inclusiveness and the womb." Besides, http://www.divisiontwo.com/ is a well-respected hard-news site. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "All machines, no matter how complex, are considered to be based on 6 simple elements: the lever, the pulley, the wheel and axle, the screw, the wedge and the inclined plane." Marilyn Vos Savant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X desktop settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:58:05AM +1300, cr wrote: > Can anyone confirm this - are *all* the X desktop settings kept in the > /home/ directory? You mean your desktop environment, like Gnome or KDE? Yeah, all your user-specific settings are in your home directory. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oKYrUzgNqloQMwcRAse7AKCy0cQiSXO9eh8gS+JI9dP8abyUNQCdFmt1 +dCBe6YvzeOM9a+xmxAT2UU= =s5oV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:25 +1100 "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Hi. > > >> How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > > >> This is the final step for moving completely from > > windows to linux! > > >> yay! > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to > > copy the data > > > somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. > > > > > > > > > > That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion > > (that I can think of). > > > > ext2 -> ext3, nope. > fat32 -> ntfs, nope. and your point? ext2 is built on top of ext2. fat32 to ntfs, kissing cousins, micro$oft filesystems. they are related, and not very different. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
using debian in a NT4 or AD environment
Hi, Does anyone here use Debian as a file server in a NT4 or AD domain ? I'm just wondering what headaches the integration would bring, we have w2k pro/ os9.2 and osx 10.2 on the desktops. The older mac files can be a pain, but I guess I can have hfs. How do I control access to the files. Can I use nt group membership ? Will samba help here ? Do I need to create all the user accounts within debian too ? I only have 100+ users. this really is just a thought exercise, I'm not expecting to get any new hardware this year. Thanks. Matt -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
> > > >>Hi. > >>How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > >>This is the final step for moving completely from > windows to linux! > >>yay! > >>Thanks > > > > > > You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to > copy the data > > somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. > > > > > > That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion > (that I can think of). > ext2 -> ext3, nope. fat32 -> ntfs, nope. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > Hi. > How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! yay! > Thanks assuming your current kernel supports ntfs format and you have lots of free space some place mount [ -t ntfs ] /dev/hdaxxx /mnt/ntfs - du /mnt/ntfs -- tells you how much spare space you need cd /mnt/ntfs ; tar zcf /some-place-with-tons-of-space/ntfs.tgz * umount /mnt/ntfs # # be sure you have your data saved first ... # mke2fs -j /dev/hdaxxx mount /dev/hdaxxx /mnt/ntfs cd /mnt/ntfs ; tar zxvfp - /some-place-with-tons-of-space/ntfs.tgz sync ; umount /mnt/ntfs put the data where you want it ... /mnt/real-ntfs-mount c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple little basic config questions
Monique Y. Herman wrote: Monique, it displays as it should: :0.0. My problem only with root. Haines Please don't CC me. (If somehow my sig isn't clear enough, please let me know how I can make it so.) Anyway, the point of my question and your answer: since your normal user successfully uses the setting of DISPLAY=:0.0 , I suggest trying ... Oh wait a minute. I just looked at my .bashrc, etc and think I've noticed the problem. Try simply doing this: DISPLAY=:0.0 export DISPLAY (note that I don't use "set" at all) Since :0.0 works, I don't see any real reason to use teufel explicitly, but if your hostname is properly set up, it shouldn't be a problem. Why not just use 'su' (with no parameters) or 'su - -p'? -m, -p, --preserve-environment do not reset environment variables, and keep the same shell That will preserve things like X display dettings. Just an idea. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting HP to support Debian
Colin Watson wrote: They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any other company in the world. If you think all that's unauthorized by their board, you're delusional, pure and simple. Any ideas on how to get them to sell me a laptop with Debian (or any flavor of GNU/Linux) preinstalled then? I haven't had any luck with them on this so far? Is it that the market is so small that they are uwilling to try? or do customers not complain enough? -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Too Slow - what'd I break?
Daniel L. Miller wrote: Howdy all. I've converted a Pentium II-350mhz w/ 128M RAM workstation from Windoze to Debian. Unfortunately, it seems that many operations are far slower - especially disk access. I've pasted the output of below. I do see some error messages regarding VFS mounts. I also see errors regarding mounts during bootup that are not shown in the output - I'd also appreciate knowing what these bootup messages are indicating and how to fix 'em. This is using the latest unstable kernel-image-2.4-686 package, as well as the lowlatency and preempt patches. Have you enabled DMA on your disk? Use hdparm (install via apt-get if you don't have it) and try something like: hdparm -c1 -m16 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda However, carefully read the documentation. I believe that in most cases DMA is disabled by default becuase some drive/chipset combos are buggy, which can cause severe corruption of data if DMA is enabled. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: du and df problem... Please help!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm afraid I can't help you directly, and with my system, df and du behave more like you would expect. The ideas I did have seemed a bit too straightforward to myself. Anyway, allow me to ask one or two questions to get it clearer: > When I run du on each root directory (ie. /boot, /dev, etc), I > totaled up the sizes given for each directory, the total OS size > is reported as being around 22mb. Have you also tried running it on / ("du -s /")? > If I run the df command, I get a total OS size of 55mb. Hmm. Maybe it uses a block size of 512 Bytes instead of 1024 (see the manpage)? Although 55 instead of 44 is still a considerable deviation ... > I have no mounts to anything (my mtab file only contains /dev/hda3 > (which is my root partition) and the proc fs). Have you also checked this by saying "mount" without any arguments? Come to think of it, I suggest you post the output of "du -s /", the output of "df", and the output of "mount" (together with the exact commandline you used) - that way it's easier to see how you have calculated your figures. Florian Check my reply to his original message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/msg06932.html Basically, he probably has an ext3 filesystem. ext3 uses 32 MB for the journal. Of course the space used by the journal shows up as used in df, but du actually counts up space used by individual files, of which the journal is not a part. 32 MB journal + 22 MB files = 54 MB total disk space used (which is very close to the 55 MB he got) -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Nathan Poznick wrote: Thus spake Frederico Rodrigues Abraham: Hi. How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! yay! Thanks You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to copy the data somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. That is actually the case for every filesystem conversion (that I can think of). -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What did I screw up?
Marc Shapiro wrote: I messed up some configuration, somewhere, and I hope that someone can tell me what it was. I have a 2 computer network. An older Pentium which I use as a gateway to the net, since it has a hardware modem in it, and my new Athlon which is what I actually use (which has a winmodem and no slots for legacy HW such as my olddem). The two are on an ethernet network. I have a menu option which telnets from the Athlon to the Pentium and dials in from there. I can then access the net from the Athlon. At least I could until this afternoon. Why not just setup diald on the gateway machine? Then, whenever you try to access the net from the Athlon, it automagically dials up and then disconnects after a specified period of time. I am runnin Sarge, BTW, but just updated jpilot and jpilot-syncmal on the Athlon from unstable. Nothing else was updated, and only libmal0 and libpisock were additionally installed, so that sould not affect anything else. No changes were made on the Pentium. I also uninstalled a few unneeded packages from the Athlon: tix8.1, nethack, nethack-x11, nethack-common, mozilla-firebird, lincity, lftp, isdnutils, isdnutils-xtools, isdnutils-base, isdnvnoxclient, isdnvboxserver, isdnlog, isdnlog-data, and ipppd. Again, nothing that should affect my ability to et to the net. I can see how most of those would be unnecessary, and I can definitely see how they should _not_ affect your dialup. But, I believe that nethack is *required* and that you can officially be considered a *nix "poser" for uninstalling it, especially the console version :-) Now, however, if I dial in and then try to access anything on the net from the Athlon, I get DNS resolution errors. I can not access ANYTHING! If I telnet to the Pentium, then I can get out without any apparent problems. What config file(s) have I messed up? I'm sure that this is simple to fix, once I determine what I accidentally messed up. Do you run DNS on your gateway machine? What is in /etc/resolv.conf? Do you run DHCP on your gateway? If so, do you have it configured to push the DNS IPs to the client? Have you changed the routing table on either machine? Any help appreciated. -- Marc Shapiro -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 at 23:34 GMT, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham penned: > Hi. How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! > yay! Thanks -- Fred > > I'm under the impression that writing to NTFS under linux is still labelled "experimental," which makes me think that this project is probably not a great idea. I can't think of a whole lot of tools that convert arbitrary filesystems ... Is it not possible for you to put the data somewhere else temporarily, reformat the partition, and then copy it back? -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:15:32PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: | Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | >File a bug report. | | Why? I don't see it as a bug. Richard said he does ... | >Mutt handles this situation correctly, as follows : | >list-reply replies only to the list (because Mail-Followup-To | > doesn't request a Cc) | >reply asks if the Reply-To: address should be used | >yes -> uses Reply-To: address | >no -> uses From: address | >group-reply asks if the Reply-To: address should be used (same | >semantics as 'reply') and includes the list | >address in the Cc: header | | >If sylpheed can't handle that, then that is a bug and ought to be | >fixed. | | What's to say that the mutt was is The One True Way. Not necessarily, but I expect that if I execute list-reply then I reply to the list. | Hey, don't get me wrong, I like mutt for the most part but a lot of | how it does things is just plain stupid. Unless there is an RFC | floating around out there that says that the list headers trump | reply-to Well, it's not the list headers anyways. First I list the list addresses and my subsribtion status in mutt's config file. Then when I execute list-reply it looks in the To: and Cc: headers to locate list addresses. | (there may be, I've not read the list headers RFC yet) I haven't looked at that one in-depth. | then either way can be explained to be correct within reasonable | expectations. | SC's way is "correct" because it would be analogous to setting | "followup-to" in a newsgroup. IE, how can you encourate a person to | take a discussion off list? Hmm. It seems like another header or other flag is needed to indicate that. (btw, I'm not very familiar with the details of newsgroup operation and haven't read any newsgroup-specific RFCs) *My* view is that Reply-To: is a personal header indicating where one would want personal replies, if different from From:. IMO you setting that doesn't override my wish to reply on-list to a list discussion. If sylpheed users don't like the way sylpheed currently behaves, then they ought to file a bug report. Either way it's not really something I should get into because I am not involved with sylpheed at all. -D -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
fsck seg. fault Please Help!
hi, the other day my woody machine just kinda stopped working...upon a reboot i learned via beep-codes that the ram had failed. i broke out the shop-vac and cleaned it out and it started to boot...here's where the troubble began... none of the rc scripts ran, and many other problems (couldn't login due to pam libs not loaded, etc.) i booted to a potato, and later tried woody rescue disks. running fsck -p /dev/sda2 tells me to run manually.did that and there were thousands of problems that were repaired, but then fsck caused a segmentation fault! here's some of the output... >>cleared a few illegal blocks<< "Unable to andle kernel paging request at virtual address >>blabla hex<< current->tss.cr3 = 08d18000, %cr3 = 08d18000" >>if you want all the stack dumps etc, let me know<< "Code: 8b 12 39 78 04 75 f3 39 68 08 75 ee 66 39 70 0c 75 e8 89 c2 Segmentation fault" HELP ME! i need to recover my home directory! i've learned my lesson and promise to make use of my tape drive from now on to backup! but seriously, what other utils can i use instead of fsck to repair the drive? when i mount the partition, i can ls / fine, but ls /home/matt lists one directory, then reports ".:input/output error" thanks, -matt -- matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Newbie Question on Network Config
Alberto Tobias wrote: /etc/network/interfaces or, alternatively you can install etherconf. 'apt-get install etherconf' this will lead you through a prompted setup. Matt Thanks for the tip! However, it does noet appear to solve my issue. After reboot I still need to manually bring up the eth0 interface and configure it. An "ifconfig -a" only shows the loopback interface. After I do a "modprobe tulip" the eth0 interface appears as well and I only neede to assign it its IP address and gateway and everything works again. What can I do to make this automatic at boot time? Where can I find the error messages (if any) the system geenrates while booting when it fails to bring up the interface? I cannot see anything in /var/log/dmesg Thanks in advance, Alberto Add the module "tulip" to /etc/modules, like this: # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a #, and everything on the line after them are ignored. tulip via82cxxx_audio visor and edit /etc/network/interfaces, something like this: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface # automatically added when upgrading auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional) # automatically added when upgrading auto eth0 #iface eth0 inet static # address 192.168.123.2 # netmask 255.255.255.0 # network 192.168.123.0 # broadcast 192.168.123.255 # gateway 192.168.123.1 iface eth0 inet dhcp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Thus spake Frederico Rodrigues Abraham: > Hi. > How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? > This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! > yay! > Thanks You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to copy the data somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. -- Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So the former ruffian picked up and tiny faerie and... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
what tool to view CDROM containing TV show?
Gentlemen, I have been send a CDROM with a television show on it. What might be the right tool to view it? The CDROM's structure is: $ tree -s |-- [ 27] autorun.inf |-- [ 2048] cdda |-- [ 2048] cdi |-- [ 2048] ext |-- [ 155648] mpeg2dmx.ax |-- [ 2048] mpegav | `-- [445904896] avseq01.dat |-- [ 129024] mpgdec.ax |-- [36864] playwnd.exe |-- [ 2048] segment `-- [ 2048] vcd |-- [ 2048] entries.vcd |-- [ 2048] info.vcd |-- [ 2048] lot.vcd `-- [ 2048] psd.vcd However even with the right tool, it seems there will be additional problems, seen with similar CDs, and both my CD drives: $ wc mpegav/avseq01.dat wc: mpegav/avseq01.dat: Input/output error 0 0 12288 mpegav/avseq01.dat In /var/log/kern.log: I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 2436 Of course trying mount -o sync doesn't help either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Ron Jr wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > > > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > > > finally be seein the end of this mess? nope ... different people get different amts of junk i was getting hundreds per day ... but now its just one-z two-z per hour and i REJECT those incoming junk ... hopefully bouncing the junk back to them or the machine sending it out - each new one finds itself added to the "sven" list daily rate incming rate is still the same... ( just more being bounced that i dont see ) - quickie analysis of where that junk comes from into just 1 of my emails: - 75% are from mis-managed clusters and usually corresponds to times when people get to work or get off work or after dinner ... ( times when their pcs get turned on and goes out thru their mta ) - coming from about 1325 mis-managed mta so far and about 2,000 of um were bounced back to the mis-managed mta - if you bounce it .. that one mta cant send or receive any more mail c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:17:52AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and > notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than > some folk) (cyan). So my posts and any replies/references stand out. O, tell me how! emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Illegal characters in cron
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 06:11:23AM +0800, csj wrote: | On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:46 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | > | > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:46:59AM +0800, csj wrote: | | > | I'm having trouble getting the following to work in my | > | crontab: | > The key is this snippet from crontab(5) : | Thanks to you and Ken. Pretty obvious I should have RTFMed. But | my problem is "crontab(1)". I've always wondered what those | parenthetical man numbers(N) mean. Time to "man man";-). The number indicates the section of the manual to look in. So to read crontab(5) run $ man 5 crontab (man(1) contains a listing of the sections and what sorts of things are found in each section) -D -- Love is not affectionate feeling, but a steady wish for the loved person's ultimate good as far as it can be obtained. --C.S. Lewis www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:47:09PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > It is possible that it has > just stopped gathering email addresses and is just propogating around > to emails that have been collected in the past. > Else the machines have been disinfected or mail servers are blcoking these. I am happy that I am getting only about 10-15 per day down from ~200/day. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. I'm a gnus person myself. It's an editor! It's a floorwax! It's a dessert topping! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian MSN clients can't connect
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:24:21 + Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've downloaded kopete and gaim0.71 as well but I've got to sort out > some broken dependencies before I can try compiling them on woody. > > Cheers, Gaim (as of .062 and newer, I believe) depends on gtk2, which makes it hard to compile on Woody. With other programs I wanted to upgrade as well, I found it easier to use apt pinning to grab some apps from unstable than compile my own. Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Fatal Error: Found MS-Windows System -> Repartitioning Disk for Linux... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Simple little basic config questions
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 01:16 GMT, Haines Brown penned: >> > I tried: "set DISPLAY teufel:0.0; export DISPLAY" /root/.profile, but >> > it. My sytax probably wrong. Can I substitute "localhost" here for >> > "teufel"? >> >> If you're logged in as a normal user, what does >> env | grep DISPLAY >> show you? > > Monique, it displays as it should: :0.0. My problem only with root. > > Haines > Please don't CC me. (If somehow my sig isn't clear enough, please let me know how I can make it so.) Anyway, the point of my question and your answer: since your normal user successfully uses the setting of DISPLAY=:0.0 , I suggest trying ... Oh wait a minute. I just looked at my .bashrc, etc and think I've noticed the problem. Try simply doing this: DISPLAY=:0.0 export DISPLAY (note that I don't use "set" at all) Since :0.0 works, I don't see any real reason to use teufel explicitly, but if your hostname is properly set up, it shouldn't be a problem. And finally, please don't cc me =) -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
Steve Lamb wrote: > Also there are other problems with the CC approach. Take, for example, a > conversation between 20 people on the same topic (much like this one) all > whacking reply-to-all. Ok, fine, why have the mailing list software at all? > By the time that 20th person hits reply-to-all he's sending out 20 copies of > the message (1 to the list, 19 to the other participants). It is a major > duplication of effort. I wouldn't use "reply to all", I'd just CC the one person. But indeed, for those who have to choose between "reply" and "Reply to all" and don't want to adjust things manually, that problem is there. I mentioned earlier that I'd try filtering on "References". That didn't work, and basically gave the same problem that you mention; I see the messages of everyone who replies to a reply to a reply of my message. However, there seems to be an "In-Reply-To" header that's more useful, so far it seems to have only the most recent reference. What all of this seems to mean is, yes, it's possible to have a situation where everyone just clicks "Reply" and people who want to see copies in their inbox get them and other people don't. But it's not automatic, people have to actually know they're supposed to do it that way and then figure out how to do it. Darned, almost forgot to change the To: to send the message to the list. I've taken care of the receiving end of it, got to work on sending. David (using a PC this time, didn't plan it that way, just how it worked out.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't set hdparm -d1 and correct kernel config
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:25:49AM +, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > >>Use this command to see what kernel options there are and what is > >>selected in your kernel config file located in /boot. > >>'cat /boot/config- |grep DMA' > >>- -- > >>Greg Madden > > I did this and the only options that were set are > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y > All the others are specified as "is not set" > So it seems as if dma is allowed here. > > Regards, > Benedict > (This is what my old AMD 133 MHz shows) # grep DMA config-2.2.20 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y CONFIG_DMASCC=m Hardware question: Are all jumpers (master/slave) correct, including CD / DVD drive ? May it be worth to switch the sequence of HD / CD .. drives? Wilko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time is runnign too fast
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:17, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > oh my god, i can't decide if that link is hilarious or what ... > > "Barbie Wizards guide girls through the process of partitioning > their disks, formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and > installing packages. > > This kind of attention to detail and thorough understanding of > female limitations also shows in the step by step Barbie Wizards > that guide girls through the process of partitioning their disks, > formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and installing packages. > During the installation, girls are allowed to play a fashion-plate > game or view a slideshow of rainbows, kittens, and Mattel products." > > !! > > is this a joke?? > > " An animated Barbie informs the user that she can work with existing Windows partitions, but would prefer that BarbieOS be allowed to format the entire disk and remove Windows volumes for maximum cootie protection." Definitely a joke. Look at some of the pages it links to: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/newsburst3.htm http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/windows_no.htm On second thoughts, I have a nasty feeling the second of those links might be only too accurate :( cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sometimes it Just Works
I just started a new job and am the only non-Windows user (so far as I know). I was given a computer with XP and permission to dual-boot Linux but was more than a little nervous about whether I could make it all work; I know that my new boss wouldn't be happy about me spending a lot of time to get the same functionality I'd have with the setup already prepared for me. So, once I'd done the basic install and set up X, I decided to start tackling the integration issues: 1) Windows shares from Win2K servers. Samba worked out of the box - 'nuff said. 2) Exchange. The sysadmin had already enabled IMAP for another user months ago; I pointed Kmail at the server and it work perfectly the first time I clicked "Check mail". 3) A little proprietary app to track whether employees are in our out of their offices. It's a Windows app that is run directly off the fileserver (no local installation). I installed Wine, but Wine complained that it wasn't configured. I install winesetuptk and tried again, and kept clicking "Next >" to accept the defaults. When that was finished, the app loaded and ran and I was able to log in and out of the system without any further action. I was pretty happy at this point - until I clicked the "minimize" window gadget. When I realized that the program had added an icon in my KDE panel's system tray and that I could right-click the icon to log in or out in *exactly* the same way that I would running Windows, and that the icon was absolutely indentical to that of the other programs in the system tray, I was completely amazed. In short, it looked and behaved exactly like any other program I run. I've been using Linux for quite a while and have been impressed with the advances its made over the years, but I don't think I really appreciated how far it's come until today. Good job, everyone. You just made my job a lot easier. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
X desktop settings
(Sorry if I left any replies in previous threads unacknowledged - my motherboard died which caused a loss of communications for a couple of weeks). Can anyone confirm this - are *all* the X desktop settings kept in the /home/ directory? And is it therefore possible just to copy the whole of /home/ to a safe place before doing something really reckless and potentially likely to break things (like changing my desktop from KDE to Gnome for example) and if I find X hopelessy screwed up afterwards, can I just immediately copy my backup straight back to /home/ and get all my old settings back? Or are there major 'look-and-feel' settings kept elsewhere? Regards cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't run X - permission denied
Only root can run X windows and certain other programs on my machine. I'm not sure whether I inadvertently changed something. This wasn't a problem before. Other programs behave the same way, for example if I use "which" as a user, the system responds: /usr/bin/which: /dev/null: Permission denied /usr/bin/which: /dev/null: Permission denied I checked the permissions and thy are set to 755, i.e world executable and readable. Any ideas how what this could be? Thanks, Lars. -- Lars Jensen, Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno NV 89512-3999. Tel: 775.673.7113 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem w/ raid1, reiserfs & mkinitrd/linuxrc
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:28:49PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: > the combination of raid1, reiserfs, and mkinitrd works sort of. > An admin and me have still two problems: > > - a lot of modules are loaded unnecessarily > > - on boot (it seems) the devices are probed for different file systems > until reiserfs is found I found, that on the initrd there is a file linuxrc.conf. Where is this file documented and how can I change it's contents? Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Hi. How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! yay! Thanks -- Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple little basic config questions
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 at 18:34 GMT, Haines Brown penned: > I have more elementary configuration questions arising from my > transition from RedHat to debian. Sorry to be a pest. > > I think this may be is a debian question because user can start the > FileRunner file manager, but not root. When root tries, it gets the > error: > > Application can't initialize because it lacks display name and no > $DISPLAY environment variable. > > Error stgartup script: can't read "tk_patchLevel": No such variable > while executing. > > How do I interpret these? In fact, if I try # echo $DISPLAY, nothing > is returned, which means the root account is not configured properly, > I'd guess. It would make sense to define the value of DISPLAY > globally, I should think. If so, how does one do that? > > The second part of the error statement would seem to be a script > error, where the value of tk_patchLevel is never defined, but since > user can run the application OK, I assume the problem is deeper than > that. Could it be the missing DISPLAY? > > Haines Brown > Look what I just found as a new package on unstable: Sux is a wrapper around the standard su command which will transfer your X credentials to the target user. http://sourceforge.net/projects/sux/ ( from http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ ) -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Videoconferencing software
John, Check out www.gnomemeeting.org. Steve On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:04:38PM -0800, John Patrick Dough wrote: > Hi all > > Is there a multi-platform videoconferencing > software out there that also works in Linux? I > currently use Eyeball video-chatting program in > Windows, but thy don't have a Linux version. I will be > totally M$ free if I can find such a software for > Linux. Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > JP > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = Steve Mayer Oracle Corporation Project Lead1211 SW 5th Ave. Portland Development Center Suite 900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, OR 97204 Phone: 503-525-3127 = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Too Slow - what'd I break?
Howdy all. I've converted a Pentium II-350mhz w/ 128M RAM workstation from Windoze to Debian. Unfortunately, it seems that many operations are far slower - especially disk access. I've pasted the output of below. I do see some error messages regarding VFS mounts. I also see errors regarding mounts during bootup that are not shown in the output - I'd also appreciate knowing what these bootup messages are indicating and how to fix 'em. This is using the latest unstable kernel-image-2.4-686 package, as well as the lowlatency and preempt patches. Linux version 2.4.22-1-686 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20030908 (Debian prerelease)) #6 Sat Oct 4 14:09:08 EST 2003 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000e7000 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 040fdc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 040fdc00 - 040ff800 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 040ff800 - 040ffc00 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 040ffc00 - 0800 (usable) BIOS-e820: fffe7000 - 0001 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 128MB LOWMEM available. ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 On node 0 totalpages: 32768 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 28672 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. ACPI disabled because your bios is from 98 and too old You can enable it with acpi=force Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=303 Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 Detected 348.487 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 694.68 BogoMIPS Memory: 123588k/131072k available (1185k kernel code, 7084k reserved, 448k data, 112k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: ESR value after enabling vector: Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... . CPU clock speed is 348.4940 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 99.5694 MHz. cpu: 0, clocks: 995694, slice: 497847 CPU0 mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9a3, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0 Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket Starting kswapd VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) devfs: boot_options: 0x0 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize Initializing Cryptographic API NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP: routing cache hash table of 1024 buckets, 8Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 16384) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM RAMDISK: cramfs filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 3496 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-done. Freeing initrd memory: 3496k freed VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem). Freeing unused kernel memory: 112k freed NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ide: late registration of driver. PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1040-0x1047, BIOS
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:18:58AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I like getting CCs. I receive hundreds of mailing list mail a day and > might not be able to check up on all of them every day, but I make > sure to check my main inbox, that way I can see if anybody replied to > anything I said. Sounds like a personal problem ;-) My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than some folk) (cyan). So my posts and any replies/references stand out. > Another reason is that this list sometimes gets overwhelmed and posts > don't appear for over an hour, but CC's arrive almost instantaneously. Hrm. Talk to your local listaholics anonymous yet? You can accomplish this by setting the "Reply-To" header of your own posts. Though some lists will strip and/or rewrite this (considered harmful, GIYF). Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Support the EFF, they support you: http://www.eff.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Wireless Laptop 802.11b - SUCCESS! (finally)
I am absolutely stunned that I finally got this working. Honestly, I've been hacking here and there, trying to get my laptop to work with my 3COM AirConnect 3CRWE737A 802.11b PCMCIA card for about a month and a half, with no luck and lots of frustration. I know the chipsets/firmware in these cards changes sometimes without the name of the product changing, which can cause problems when referencing various Howtos. The solution that finally worked was the simplest. By using the stock orinoco_cs driver in the bf24 Debian kernel, I'm now able to get an ip address from my WAP, albeit without WEP. The orinoco_cs driver apparently comes from turning on support for HERMES chipset/pcmcia cards during Debian installion (or in kernel recompiling, I imagine). Many of the howtos for this particular NIC suggested recompiling the kernel, using third-party drivers, and all kinds of .conf file hacking. All of those might very well lead to a better connection and better security support, but I'm relatively new to *nix and it was all a bit over my head. After turning on the HERMES/orinoco_cs stuff, it was simply a matter of apt-getting the "wireless-tools" package and running "iwconfig eth0"--it found my WAP automatically and assigned an ip. At any rate, I'm overjoyed to have it working. If anyone has a similar card and similar frustrations, feel free to shoot me an email with questions. Further, if anyone with this model got things working *better*, let me know! I know WEP is easily cracked, but I would still like that false sense of security! Thanks much to the debian-user archives for many bits of knowledge!!! Sincerely, M. Kirchhoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AverTV Studio & Sound
At Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:23:26 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 11:10, techlists wrote: > > bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 00:0f.0, irq: 11, latency: 64, memory: 0xcbdf > > e000 > > bttv0: detected: AVerMedia TVPhone98 [card=41], PCI subsystem ID is 14 > > 61:0003 > > bttv0: using: BT878(AVerMedia TVPhone 98) [card=41,autodetected] > > i2c-core.o: adapter bt848 #0 registered as adapter 0. > > bttv0: Avermedia eeprom[0x4803]: tuner=2 > > bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... not found > > bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found > > bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found > > tvaudio: TV audio decoder + audio/video mux driver > > tvaudio: known chips: tda9840,tda9873h,tda9874a,tda9850,tda9855,tea630 > > 0,tea6420,tda8425,pic16c54 (PV951) > > Well it looks like you have an unsupported tuner Just like > I do. (the "not found" gives that away) The OP did say he has a picture, but no sound. So the tuner is at least partly supported. > bttv is not heavy on the updates lately. > > There in lies your problem. Most cards have an audio line-out. That might work. Plug the line-out to the line-in of the audio soundcard. I have pretty much no-name card. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge netinst: CD-RW Sony CRX175A1
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:31:34 -0800, "Marc Wilson msw-at-cox.net |debian-user|" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 07:58:18PM +0100, Dani wrote: > > I'm netinstalling Debian Sarge from a minimal CD. > > The installation show me the following list of kernel modules: > > aztcd, cdu31a, cm206, gscd, isp16, mcd, mcdx, optcd, sbpcd, sjcd, > > sonycd535. > > None of those. Those are all meant to drive the older CD-ROM drives > on > proprietary interfaces. [...] > How is this drive interfaced? By IDE, as most of CD-RW drives. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Illegal characters in cron
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:05:46 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:46:59AM +0800, csj wrote: > | I'm having trouble getting the following to work in my > | crontab: > | > | 30 1 * * * mailfilter -M ~/.mailfilterrc -L > ~/autosave/log/mailfilter/mailfilter-`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.log [...] > It took me a long time to figure out the same problem (but with > a different command). Well, my cron job that wouldn't work was > a monthly job and so I pretty much had to wait until the next > month to test any changes. > > The key is this snippet from crontab(5) : > >The sixth field (the rest of the line) specifies the >command to be run. The entire command portion of the >line, up to a newline or % character, will be executed >by /bin/sh or by the shell specified in the SHELL >variable of the crontab file. Percentsigns (%) in the >command, unless escaped with backslash (\), will be >changed into newline charac ters, and all data after the >first % will be sent to the command as standard input. > > Change all '%' in your command to '\%'. Thanks to you and Ken. Pretty obvious I should have RTFMed. But my problem is "crontab(1)". I've always wondered what those parenthetical man numbers(N) mean. Time to "man man";-). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with ALSA on Toshiba S5200-902 - Can't play Enemy Territory ;-(
On a sidebar ... When logging into KDE I do hear sound, but it sounds like it is played to loud (which it isn't). I believe it is a driver/settings issue as it was working fine with the other os. Mariano On Wednesday 29 October 2003 22:43, Mariano Kamp wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Kernel 2.4.22 with ALSA. Alsa is working fine so far with KDE, > but it can't get it working with enemy territory. > > I get the following error message (from et console output): > > [..] > --- sound initialization --- > /dev/dsp: Input/output error > Could not mmap /dev/dsp > > Sound memory manager started > [..] > > I really don't know where to look for. My googling hasn't turned up > anything meaningful to me yet. > > This is my card: > > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio > Controller (rev 02) > Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems: Unknown device 0002 > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > SERR- Latency: 0 > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 10 > Region 0: I/O ports at 1400 [size=256] > Region 1: I/O ports at 1040 [size=64] > > The user is in the audio group and can "cat" the /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0. > > > my alsa/0.9: > > blue:~# cat /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 > ### DEBCONF MAGIC > # This file was automatically generated by alsa-base's debconf stuff > > alias char-major-116 snd > alias char-major-14 soundcore > > options snd major=116 cards_limit=4 > > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > > alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias sound-slot-0 snd-slot-0 > > > My syslog: > Oct 29 23:26:55 blue kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:1f.5 > to 64 > Oct 29 23:26:55 blue kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000 > Oct 29 23:26:55 blue kernel: ALSA intel8x0.c:2605: joystick(s) found > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3 > Oct 29 23:26:56 blue modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3 > > > This is how my modules look like: > blue:~# lsmod > Module Size Used byTainted: P > snd-seq-oss30336 0 (unused) > snd-seq-midi-event 3264 0 [snd-seq-oss] > snd-seq42480 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] > snd-pcm-oss49348 0 > snd-mixer-oss 15928 0 [snd-pcm-oss] > snd-intel8x0 21284 0 > snd-pcm73604 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0] > snd-timer 17252 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] > snd-ac97-codec 44248 0 [snd-intel8x0] > snd-page-alloc 6964 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm] > snd-mpu401-uart 4160 0 [snd-intel8x0] > snd-rawmidi15488 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] > snd-seq-device 4688 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] > snd39268 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq > snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec > snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] > soundcore 3940 5 [snd] > visor 11592 0 (unused) > usbserial 19580 0 [visor] > agpgart35840 3 (autoclean) > nvidia 1630368 11 > af_packet 13576 0 (autoclean) > mousedev4372 1 > hid16772 0 (unused) > usbmouse2296 0 (unused) > keybdev 2116 0 (unused) > usbkbd 3672 0 (unused) > input 3616 0 [mousedev usbmouse keybdev usbkbd] > usb-ohci 19304 0 (unused) > usbcore63340 0 [visor usbserial hid usbmouse usbkbd > usb-ohci] > rtc 6792 0 (autoclean) > unix 15468 85 (autoclean) > > > Any ideas what to look for? > > Cheers, > Mariano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't run X - permission denied
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 02:56:31PM -0800, Lars Jensen wrote: > Only root can run X windows and certain other programs on my machine. > I'm not sure whether I inadvertently changed something. This wasn't a > problem before. Other programs behave the same way, for example if I use > "which" as a user, the system responds: > > /usr/bin/which: /dev/null: Permission denied > /usr/bin/which: /dev/null: Permission denied > > I checked the permissions and thy are set to 755, i.e world executable > and readable. > > Any ideas how what this could be? /dev/null is supposed to be world readable and writable (rw-rw-rw-). Is it? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [DEB-USER] Re: Incremental CDR backups
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:52, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 02:44:16AM +1100, bob parker wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:08, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > I'm having difficulty burning incremental CDR backups. (Using Debian > > > 3.0r1/testing.) They burn fine, but when I mount the CD after the > > > second and subsequent backups, all I can see is the original session. > > > > > > Here are the commands I give Linux: > > > > > > (First burn) > > > > > > mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage /home/paulf/cdrom > > > cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp/cdimage > > > > > > (Second burn, after creating a new bunch of stuff to backup) > > > > > > NEXTTRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0,0` > > > mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage -C $NEXTTRACK -M /dev/cdrom > > > /home/paulf/cdrom cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data > > > /tmp/cdimage > > > > > > According to the CD-Writing-HOWTO and the README.multi doc file from > > > the cdrecord disto, this should do it. But all I see is the original > > > session when I mount the CD. (And no, I don't want to do this with a > > > GUI, thanks.) > > > > Paul, > > You need a way to select files to backup that are newer than the previous > > backup. So: > > > > cp -p /var/backup/control /tmp/control > > where /var/backup/control was 'touched' at the time of the previous > > backup. followed by: > > touch /var/backup/control > > > > Also, you need to give a unique file name for each backup. > > Something like: > > OFN="backup_incr-"$(date -I)".tgz" > > then: > > tar --create --gzip --file $OFN \ > > --newer /tmp/control \ > > --exclude *.iso \ > > --exclude *.wav \ > > /home/paulf/ > > > > After that: > > touch /var/backup/control > > > > You can use as many --exclude options as you want to avoid backing up > > such stuff as your browser cache and so on. > > > > If you don't want to tar and zip your backup you can use the > > -graft-points option of mkisofs to create a dir on the cdrom based on the > > date of backup or similar. See the man page. > > > > Then the iso for the first burn > > mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage $OFN > > burn it > > > > subsequent burns > > mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage -C $NEXTTRACK -M /dev/cdrom $OFN > > and burn it. > > > > And I agree with you, leave the GUI stuff out of this, it adds > > complication for no real gain. > > There must be something I don't understand about this. For the sake of > brevity, here's an example. First burn is /home/paulf/docs. It contains > the files alfa, bravo, charlie and delta. I make an ISO of this, stored > in /tmp/cdimage. I burn it to CDR and delete the /tmp/cdimage file. A > week later, I've updated the bravo file and added an echo file. Now I > make an ISO of the /home/paulf/docs directory, and burn that to the CDR. > Now when I look on the CDR, what I see is the _original_ burn. All this > is using the commands I mentioned above (normally I'd snip email, > but...). > > Now, my original thought was that mkisofs/cdrecord process would simply > add the new echo file, and show an updated version of the bravo file, > while leaving the rest alone. Sort of like the way it works on a hard > drive, except that the space taken up by the old versions of files (like > bravo) would still be "used". This appears to be the way my wife's > software on Windows works. But I can't seem to make this work on my > Linux box. > > Any pointers to help me understand this would be appreciated. > > Paul Paul, Have a look at your mkisofs in your original post above. All you are doing is re-recoding the contents of your cdrom. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
Marc Shapiro wrote: I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? Nope. dmiyu:/var/log/exim4# grep malware mainlog | wc -l 90 90 so far today. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
What did I screw up?
I messed up some configuration, somewhere, and I hope that someone can tell me what it was. I have a 2 computer network. An older Pentium which I use as a gateway to the net, since it has a hardware modem in it, and my new Athlon which is what I actually use (which has a winmodem and no slots for legacy HW such as my olddem). The two are on an ethernet network. I have a menu option which telnets from the Athlon to the Pentium and dials in from there. I can then access the net from the Athlon. At least I could until this afternoon. I am runnin Sarge, BTW, but just updated jpilot and jpilot-syncmal on the Athlon from unstable. Nothing else was updated, and only libmal0 and libpisock were additionally installed, so that sould not affect anything else. No changes were made on the Pentium. I also uninstalled a few unneeded packages from the Athlon: tix8.1, nethack, nethack-x11, nethack-common, mozilla-firebird, lincity, lftp, isdnutils, isdnutils-xtools, isdnutils-base, isdnvnoxclient, isdnvboxserver, isdnlog, isdnlog-data, and ipppd. Again, nothing that should affect my ability to et to the net. Now, however, if I dial in and then try to access anything on the net from the Athlon, I get DNS resolution errors. I can not access ANYTHING! If I telnet to the Pentium, then I can get out without any apparent problems. What config file(s) have I messed up? I'm sure that this is simple to fix, once I determine what I accidentally messed up. Any help appreciated. -- Marc Shapiro _ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Q: Why is linux-wlan-ng not an ordinary part of the kernel?
Hi, I believe to have a prism wlan card in my notebook and while digging around what to do I came to the conclusion that I need a module, which is in linx-wlan-ng?! It is a kernel module and part of the official debian distro, isn't it? My expectation had been to see this turn up in menuconfig, but it doesn't. There also isn't a precompiled module for the current 2.4.22 kernel in the repository. Is there any particular reason for this or is it just, that the module somehow is prevented from becoming a *first class* citizen of the kernel? Just wondering... Cheers, Mariano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: du and df problem... Please help!
I'm afraid I can't help you directly, and with my system, df and du behave more like you would expect. The ideas I did have seemed a bit too straightforward to myself. Anyway, allow me to ask one or two questions to get it clearer: > When I run du on each root directory (ie. /boot, /dev, etc), I > totaled up the sizes given for each directory, the total OS size > is reported as being around 22mb. Have you also tried running it on / ("du -s /")? > If I run the df command, I get a total OS size of 55mb. Hmm. Maybe it uses a block size of 512 Bytes instead of 1024 (see the manpage)? Although 55 instead of 44 is still a considerable deviation ... > I have no mounts to anything (my mtab file only contains /dev/hda3 > (which is my root partition) and the proc fs). Have you also checked this by saying "mount" without any arguments? Come to think of it, I suggest you post the output of "du -s /", the output of "df", and the output of "mount" (together with the exact commandline you used) - that way it's easier to see how you have calculated your figures. Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:51 -0500, "Marc Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? ..nah, I still see around 5/h, its been at that level the last 3 weeks. I'm also seeing about the same level. It is possible that it has just stopped gathering email addresses and is just propogating around to emails that have been collected in the past. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: File a bug report. Why? I don't see it as a bug. Mutt handles this situation correctly, as follows : list-reply replies only to the list (because Mail-Followup-To doesn't request a Cc) reply asks if the Reply-To: address should be used yes -> uses Reply-To: address no -> uses From: address group-reply asks if the Reply-To: address should be used (same semantics as 'reply') and includes the list address in the Cc: header If sylpheed can't handle that, then that is a bug and ought to be fixed. What's to say that the mutt was is The One True Way. Hey, don't get me wrong, I like mutt for the most part but a lot of how it does things is just plain stupid. Unless there is an RFC floating around out there that says that the list headers trump reply-to (there may be, I've not read the list headers RFC yet) then either way can be explained to be correct within reasonable expectations. SC's way is "correct" because it would be analogous to setting "followup-to" in a newsgroup. IE, how can you encourate a person to take a discussion off list? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian MSN clients can't connect
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 11:51:03PM -0600, oskar nl wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:51:16AM +, Pigeon wrote: > > > >>The kids have given me a username eg. '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and a > >>password to go with it (an English word). I've tried these in gaim, > >>kmerlin and everybuddy; none of them can connect and it doesn't look > >>like it's because they've given me an invalid username/password. gaim > >>(v0.58) is the least informative; when I try to connect, it responds > >>very quickly with a dialog saying > > > > > >Kopete in KDE 3.2 gets the job done. > > The problems with the accounts, are 'cause newest protocol for the > messenger, That solution about kopete is good since, you want upgrade > all the dependencies, but if you wana get a BIG THANKS for the kids I > recomend, amsn 0.83, isn't part of Debian/Woody(I don't know sid, or > sarge), but is GNU, based on GTK+/Tcl/Tk, looks almost identacally, and > should not be a trouble for the kids. Many thanks for this - downloaded amsn and it worked straight away. The kids seem to be happy with it too. I've downloaded kopete and gaim0.71 as well but I've got to sort out some broken dependencies before I can try compiling them on woody. Cheers, -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting HP to support Debian
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:25:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..you say HP support's Debian Linux. Both may well be true, the sheer > size of HP suggest one of these support schemes may be un-autorized > by HP's corporate board. They might wanna know, and, trust needs > a minimum of spine, and we all know long term business needs trust. They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any other company in the world. If you think all that's unauthorized by their board, you're delusional, pure and simple. > ..my conspiracy is simple: I say boycott HP until they ditch SCO. > I feel our (Debian's) spine more worth than whatever money they > are peeing down our back's. Please moderate your rants until you're better informed. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 at 21:23 GMT, Marc Shapiro penned: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. > This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > Could we finally be seein the end of this mess? > > -- Marc Shapiro > Eep! Don't jinx us!! -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > > finally be seein the end of this mess? > > > > > I'm getting one every 2 or 3 hrs. Down from ~5/hr three days ago. > Theory: If you don't post to this list for many days, the infected machines > which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get disinfected, > and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you post, you run the > risk of a new wave of swen. I don't think so, since I post here regularly, and have been getting less than 10 per day for the past week -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA 484,246 sq mi (1,254,197 sq km) are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150' (a nice suburban US plot). That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. <>
Re: Time is runnign too fast
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:17:00 -0500, Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > on Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:23:08PM -0600, Ron Jr insinuated: > > "'Most girls up through adult women become frightened and > > confused, often hysterical when presented with a traditional > > command prompt,' Cesterino explained, 'therefore the console > > program available through the B-Menu in BarbieOS features pink > > text on a flowered background so as to not intimidate or threaten > > females, and all windows are circular instead of the usual > > square, since most females unconsciously associate a circular > > shape with inclusiveness and the womb.'" > > http://qrxx.4t.com/barbieOS.htm > > oh my god, i can't decide if that link is hilarious or what ... > > "Barbie Wizards guide girls through the process of partitioning > their disks, formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and > installing packages. > > This kind of attention to detail and thorough understanding of > female limitations also shows in the step by step Barbie Wizards > that guide girls through the process of partitioning their disks, > formatting volumes, mounting Samba shares, and installing packages. > During the installation, girls are allowed to play a fashion-plate > game or view a slideshow of rainbows, kittens, and Mattel products." > > !! > > is this a joke?? ..pretty good one too. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AverTV Studio & Sound
El mié, 29 de oct de 2003, a las 08:14:18 -0600, techlists dijo: > Acctually That is not true. The card works perfectly when I boot off a > Knoppix cdrom. Under Knoppix I get picture and sound. The problem only > appears under my debian linux installation. > Sorry, I have not followed the thread, so maybe the reply won't help you. I have this card (with FM radio) working by loading the module with modutils with these parameters: "card=41 radio=1 fieldnr=1 tuner=5" I think it did not get the right tuner through probing. Jose -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 11:37, Tom wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:44:55AM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > As for me, without TV I've had the bliss of missing Star Search, > > Survival, and lord only knows what else. As far as I can tell, the only > > thing I'm missing is the Daily Show. And I _think_ I'm getting the BBC's > > best thanks to video and DVD releases. Father Ted! > > C-SPAN is nice. Kinda fun to watch congress all day. > > I judge a town by its PBS stations: some are stupid, some are > science-y, some are (ahem) art-y, some are stuffy. In Mountain View, CA > I get KCSM, KQED, and KTEH: three of the best. > > Read Aldous Huxley's "Point, Counterpoint" for some funny comments about > "The Talkies" when they were a novelty and not life itself! Also I > think Europe's green party could learn a bit about European Anarchists > before they had Russia as an example, and how we could end world hunger > extracting phosphorous from corpses for fertiziler :-) Wouldn't Soylent Green be much more efficient? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA When Swedes start committing terrorism, I'll become suspicious of Scandanavians. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time is runnign too fast
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 13:30, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > On Wednesday 29 October 2003 19:23, Ron Jr wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 12:05, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I have a problem on my laptop. Almost every time its running on > > > batteries the time runs twice or more as fast as it should. It almost > > > everytime happens if i plug AC on while its running... Im sure thats a > > > stepping problem (laptops runns at higher freq with ac plugged in). Is > > > there a way to fix this. Linux has to know when the CPU stepps to > > > recalculate the time. I use kernel 2.6.0-test8 with SID. > > > > I guess that rebooting the PC would drain too much battery? > > > Dont understand your answer... The laptups time often runs too fast if it > starts in battery mode (and no ac will be pugged in). Oh, sorry. When I read "Linux has to know when the CPU stepps to recalculate the time", I thought you meant that the kernel didn't know that the frequency had changed while running. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Great Inventors of our time: Al Gore -> Internet Sun Microsystems -> Clusters -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
David Gaudine wrote: > I'm surprised that so many people don't like CCs. When I send a message, I > want to know if somebody replies. Without a CC (or the above) I won't get > the reply until the next time I check the list, and then only if read every > message on the list or remember which subject lines I've been following > lately. Which isn't to hard really. You could also use a variety of filter options to place copies of replies in special folders or, with a GUI client, higlight messages which are direct replies to your own. > One person mentioned that he doesn't like to reply to the CC and then find > out that the message was also on the list; I agree, but I usually remember > to look at the headers to see if it's a CC. That would be me. I rarely look at headers. Why? It's to me. It's not to the list. Also there are other problems with the CC approach. Take, for example, a conversation between 20 people on the same topic (much like this one) all whacking reply-to-all. Ok, fine, why have the mailing list software at all? By the time that 20th person hits reply-to-all he's sending out 20 copies of the message (1 to the list, 19 to the other participants). It is a major duplication of effort. Now imagine that person 12 wants to get out of the conversation. How, exactly, does he unsubscribe from a CC list? Say he somehow manages to get the 19 other people to take his name off the list. In comes person 21 replying to a post by person 18 well before the point where person 12's name was taken off the ever growing CC list. Whoops, he's back in. > Note: I replied to Kjetil's message by "reply all", deleting the contents of > the "to" and "cc" fields, and typing the list address. Which sort of > answers Monique's original question. Then that would be a problem with the software. With both Sylpheed-claws and Thunderbird I could just set the CC field to TO and then delete the contents of the other TO field. Of course with SC that isn't needed since it heeds list headers. It is needed with Thunderbird (which I am using right now) and isn't all that much of a pain. I'd rather it heeded list headers but the other things it does more than makes up for it. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The best way to install 'sid'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dimecres 29 Octubre 2003 22:07, en Davi Leal va escriure: > 1. Use knoppix and realize a dist-upgrade to sid? That one works fine (after modifying sources.list to match sid's) ;) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oD/5ok8j9RhtetwRAnvAAJ9XDcpPn3FEKfj0MHO+kN3XODQzlACfQ2pF Ag6NyfQuE4kz0kXat83kEC0= =7nIf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] exim4 opening to many threads
- Original Message - From: "Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 AM Subject: exim4 opening to many threads > Hi, > > i have exim4 running and today the people from the cable company > came over and installed a cable phone. For the installation they shut > down the moment for an hour and forgot to plug in the network > cable into the moment. When i came home, i saw that my connection > was gone, plugged the cable back in and my server started to fetch > mail. Since it had been a couple of hours since the mail was fetched, > a lot of mail came in. My server started over 50 exim4's and the server > chokes on it since there are only a couple of amavis and spamd threads > running. > How can i limit the number of threads that exim opens at a time? > Ideal would be for example if you could specify to only have 10 > running exim threads at a time so the system doesn't choke when > receiving lots of mail. > Is this possible? > > Thanks, > Benedict I added a few options and they seem to work well: smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 10 smtp_accept_max = 6 smtp_accept_queue = 5 queue_only_load = 20 deliver_queue_load_max = 40 Adjusting the 20 / 40 seems to have the most impact. Now the server is usable even if it's collecting a huge number of mails because of downtime. Now the exim processes don't starve other processes like amavisd and spamd of resources. Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple little basic config questions
> > I tried: "set DISPLAY teufel:0.0; export DISPLAY" /root/.profile, but > > it. My sytax probably wrong. Can I substitute "localhost" here for > > "teufel"? > > If you're logged in as a normal user, what does > env | grep DISPLAY > show you? Monique, it displays as it should: :0.0. My problem only with root. Haines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help on g++ 3.3
I dist-upgraded to Sarge a few weeks ago. Today I tried to make a small change in some old C++ programs that were working using 2.95 compiler. Now they don't compile. I've traced the problem to a change/deletion from STL. In 2.95, there is a member function, push_back() for vector, i.e. push_back with null argument. It pushes an T element onto the vector after constructing it with a default constructor for type T. This version of push_back is gone from the new STL in 3.3. Does anyone know why? Where should I look to find out why? -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkfs.msdos, FAT 32 and wrong disksize
> Dear all, > > don't ask why but I have to prepare a disk with FAT32. I won't ask ;-) , but if you happen to have also Windows on your machine, I think I have an advice. To my experience, FAT32 is the only way to really share a partition between Linux and Windows (i.e., have the same access to it). I have also tried mkfs.msdos and have also got errors I did not even understand because I know too little about VFAT. AFAIK, Linux FAT support is still *alpha* (though I think this refers to creating and checking such a filesystem, rather than using it), for which reason I suspect it is wisest to make the filesystem ("format the disk", as they say) under Windows. The second reason is that if (and only if) you intend to use the partition under Windows as well, you want to be sure it accepts the fs. Linux mkfs.msdos, however, has quite a few fine-tuning options, which seems -- to me -- nothing less than asking for trouble. Yeah, my advice would be: play it safe. Format one of those partitions with Windows, and then check again about the sizes. My bet is that everything will be as supposed. Another advice is taken from the fdisk manpage: For best results, you should always use an OS-specific partition table program. For example, you should make DOS partitions with the DOS FDISK program and Linux partitions with the Linux fdisk or Linux cfdisk program. I would follow that. True, the Win fdisk is very unwieldy (if not stupid) and lets you do things in a certain sequence only. That should not be a problem if you are sure what to do. I have not had any problems with the schedule: 1 - win fdisk 2 - linux fdisk 3 - win format (for all vfat) 4 - linux mkfs (for all ext2/3) [I think under Windows, in some cases it can be important for the drive letters not to change once they're recorded - or registered or whatever.] Hope this is still accurate (as far as the alpha status of FAT support is concerned - I am using Woody) and helps, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: What did I screw up?
Earlier, I said: I messed up some configuration, somewhere, and I hope that someone can tell me what it was. Now, however, if I dial in and then try to access anything on the net from the Athlon, I get DNS resolution errors. I can not access ANYTHING! If I telnet to the Pentium, then I can get out without any apparent problems. What config file(s) have I messed up? I'm sure that this is simple to fix, once I determine what I accidentally messed up. Well, somehow the default gateway entry got removed from my routing table. I don't see how anything that I installed, or removed, could have done that, and I certainly did not use the route command prior to the mess-up, but that is what happened. One route add command later and I am back on the net again. Thanks for listening, even if I figured it out myself (that is the best way, after all). -- Marc Shapiro _ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Videoconferencing software
John Patrick Dough wrote: Is there a multi-platform videoconferencing software out there that also works in Linux? I currently use Eyeball video-chatting program in Windows, but thy don't have a Linux version. I will be totally M$ free if I can find such a software for Linux. Any suggestions will be appreciated. I personally use Gnomemeeting. It's fully compatible with Microsoft Netmeeting and other clients using the H.323 protocol. -- +==+ | Greg Bolshaw E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Consultant Web Site: www.linuxtechnologies.co.uk | | Linux TechnologiesPGP Key: 0x3DE51D89 | +~~+ | Linux and Open Source Solutions Provider | +==+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:46:31 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? No, but perhaps Hotmail took heed of suggestions to reject viruses at SMTP time. If so, then that gives us ONE good thing to say about MicroSquish. -- Marc Shapiro _ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:39:05PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > > finally be seein the end of this mess? > > > > I'm getting one every 2 or 3 hrs. Down from ~5/hr three days ago. > Theory: If you don't post to this list for many days, the infected machines > which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get disinfected, > and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you post, you run the > risk of a new wave of swen. > > Just a theory. I've only posted rarely, and had a pretty good dose of swen after a post or two a month ago, now down to about 0. I posted once a few days ago and got no swen from that. Maybe the address harvesting mechanism is no longer looking at usenet new-posts (or whatever it was doing)? The end result is that my filtering (using procmail) is a tad more complicated and time-consuming, still looking for swen mails, when apparently the problem is past. The patterns in .procmailrc are potentially still useful for other MS executables, but in general this sort of solution is going to add cruft to my mail processing. I.e., the swen worm attack has a lasting impact, however small. Ken -- Ken Irving, Research Analyst, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 907-474-6152 Water and Environmental Research Center Institute of Northern Engineering University of Alaska, Fairbanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg needing to allocate 700MB of memory?
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:14:52PM -0300, Cristian Gutierrez said >>I even tried downloading 1.10.18 (.17 was on my system, an unstable >>one, BTW), unpacking it and installing it "by hand", but the result >>was the same. Yeah, nasty thing to do.. but I'm freaking out, you >>know? ;-) > >That said, if you reinstalled dpkg and it's still messed up, it's >unlikely to be a problem with dpkg itself. If you can get debsums >installed, maybe do a check of all the packages on your system? If >libc6 or such gets broken, you'll get lots of weird problems. Thanks a lot; as I stated in another message in this thread, it was my corrupted *ext3* /var partition that caused the problem (due to power outage). File sizes got very funny... Yeah, I messed up glibc on a Mandrake system, now its days are counted before reinstalling (messing with rpm at the same time doesn't help either... only accelerates putrefaction!) :o) Cheers, -- Cristian Gutierrez http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~crgutier [EMAIL PROTECTED]Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The good news: Computers allow us to work 100% faster. The bad news: They generate 300% more work. --Unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
God watches my heart
Brothers and Sisters, I believe in God as much that probably nobody does. “Lord merciful who gave me my life . .” pray I day and night asking what sins I have done. Due to what sins of mine the Lord punishes me by making my daughter bed-ridden? I never stop praying Him and it dawned upon me to ask for help. I ask for help you, my Brothers and Sisters who live on the same Earth, breathe the same air and pray the same God. With some of whom I share similar grief. Excuse me, my Brothers and Sisters for my addressing you. I am exhausted having been struggling long years for my daughter’s life and health (if such existence full of pain and suffering could be called “life”). She badly needs emergent donor kidney transplantation. Nothing prevents me from being her donor and there are no medical contradictions against it. I am eager to give my kidney to and I will do it with joy. However such a complicated operation requires money that is unavailable to me. I am an ordinary woman from Belarus and my salary is hardly enough for everyday living, to say nothing of an expensive operation. I just can’t afford it. I have no hope to get any state aid. The only assistance comes from common people in the form of advice and good words of support.Somebody might think that I’m trying to deceive or to play a trick and he will not read this letter till the end. God watches my heart. I hope He’ll send me people who will not stay indifferent to my grief and they will help me with what they will be able. I hope my daughter will be saved. Here is my name and address to transfer money through Western Union, Money Gramm or to the my bank account. Name : Galina GasiukCountry : BelarusCity : MinskZip code : 22Address : ul. V. Horunzhei 5b, 51E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] God Bless you, dear Brothers and Sisters. I pray for you, your children and your families. I understand that not everyone can support me financially. The sum for the operation is really high. But one hundred or fifty or even twenty dollars is a real support for me in this situation. Because my daughter now is having a Course of hemodialysis waiting for donor kidney transplantation and I have to pay for it also. Give us as much as you can and God will give you more. If you are able to help my daughter and me, if she recovers (I long for it so much) I will be graceful to the Lord and you, my Brothers and Sisters, till the end of my life. In case you have no possibilities to help me I ask you to send this letter to friends of yours – even doing so you’ll do what you can to give me your helpful hand. God will reward you for your aid. With great hope and hearty gratitudeGalina <>
Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused
csj wrote: At Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:46:15 +1000, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:16AM +0800, csj said On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000, Rob Weir wrote: Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a new font, it handles setting up symlinks and such so that you can just point X at /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, and leave it alone. Without defoma, you'd have to point X at wherever fonts installed themselves, and update the various fonts.* files that live next to the fonts. I have two problems with such a setup: First is that the official xserver-xfree86 package appears not to be defoma- or at least x-ttcidfont-conf-aware. So I have to do a trick or two with my favorite editor after reconfiguring xserver-xfree86. (Actually the editor part is just cat font_path.txt >> XF86Config-4) Should this be filed as a wishlist bug? No, it will be handled by a different system. See bug #202096. Second is that I have a program that for some reason doesn't recognize symlinks. Which symlinks? In /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType? X or your fontserver looks in there, no user X program needs ever touch them, they get all their font data from the X server. Real world case: scribus (probably the best GPL'ed or better DTP app). Not to deviate too much - but still under this topic: Reading the information on font servers, it would appear that my preferred setup would be to install all my fonts on a single server, setup XFT on that machine, and then point all my X workstations at that XFT server. But doing this does not appear to give me all my fonts in different programs. Am I better off with sharing that server's font directory and not using XFT at all? I primarily utilize TrueType fonts - and I'm still supporting Windoze applications with Wine. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card
On Tuesday October 28 at 01:04pm "Larry W. Irwin Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running > Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get > Woody's xserver to work with this fossil? The card will work, however it is sometimes paired with Sun workstation monitors, which use sync-on-green. This combination caused many headaches for me. The best I got for X was snow. I ended up installing Windows NT and giving it to my mother. Why she still uses Juno is beyond me, but it only runs on Windows. At least it's better than 95/98, as far as networking goes. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Misfits - Some Kinda Hate : Legacy of Brutality Today is Boomtime, the 10th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netiquette: CCing on lists
On Wednesday October 29 at 12:36pm Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:10:57 +0800 > "David Palmer." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Sylpheed has 'reply to > all > > sender > > mailing list' > > > > option that works for me. > > > But setting >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > as you seem to have done, prevents the reply to list option from > working properly. > But setting the per-folder 'Default To' fixes that. I don't know if that is only available in sylpheed-claws though. -- -johann koenig My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Videoconferencing software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:04:38PM -0800, John Patrick Dough wrote: > Is there a multi-platform videoconferencing > software out there that also works in Linux? I > currently use Eyeball video-chatting program in > Windows, but thy don't have a Linux version. I will be > totally M$ free if I can find such a software for > Linux. Any suggestions will be appreciated. gnomemeeting? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oFcNUzgNqloQMwcRApp/AKDUCRzIWlo9JRkqqjaThWCuyEQ0AQCgtaqe Q0/H0GMmcSL1Kz+81kmttHA= =FpAW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acronyms (was Re: reiserfs)
On Tuesday October 28 at 04:54pm Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > * Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031028 14:48]: > > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:51, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > Speaking for myself only. I have to make do with whatever is > > > provided. I am trying to learn to speak debian but it is tough > > > when words have meanings that arnt in the dic. see there is one I > > > know its dictionary but to save time or whatever we all slip up > > > now and again. BTW I assume it means by the way, but I have seen > > > it used where that didnt make any sense and when that is carried > > > over into a technical subject katy bar the door and keep the kooks > > > in. Hoyt (Sorry I'm flustered) > > > > If I understood this correctly the short stuff came from chat rooms > > and not debian specific. The ones I remember now, assuming I didn't > > get them wrong myself ;-) > > > > IIRC - if I recall correctly > > AFAIK - as far as I know > > BTW - by the way > > There's no need to guess > > sudo apt-get install dictd dict dict-jargon dict-vera > Even better, install 'bsdgames' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ auto-apt check /usr/games/wtf games/bsdgames [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wtf Usage: wtf [is] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wtf iirc IIRC: if I recall correctly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wtf smlsfb SMLSFB: so many losers, so few bullets [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- -johann koenig Now Playing: AFI - He Who Laughs Last... : Very Proud Of Ya Today is Boomtime, the 10th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3169 My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? > I'm getting one every 2 or 3 hrs. Down from ~5/hr three days ago. Theory: If you don't post to this list for many days, the infected machines which have your email address in their lists of targets gradually get disinfected, and your incoming swen gradually goes to zero. But, if you post, you run the risk of a new wave of swen. Just a theory. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failing to upgrade sysvinit from Knoppix version
Simon Tod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Knowing what exactly the version is might be helpful. If the >> Knoppix people have added an epoch to their version number, APT >> would be entirely correct in concluding that 1:2.84-mumble is newer >> than 2.85-7. You might also check that your APT sources.list is >> correct, and that you haven't set up funny APT pinning rules. >> > > There's nothing wrong with my sources.list, it points > to sid only. I'm not using any apt pinning rules. > > The problem is, as you guessed, the epoch number. > Version 2:2.84-161. > > So, any ideas? How do I "downgrade" to the more up to > date version in sid? I'm not sure that I can think of a better way than downloading the packages by hand and installing them directly using dpkg. :-/ Can you readily identify the packages that are different versions than what's in unstable? You can directly download the packages from your favorite Debian mirror; this is easier if there are a small number of them, of course. You also might be able to set up your APT preferences file; apt_preferences(5) says that priorities over 1000 will causes packages to be downgraded. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Newbie Question on Network Config
- Original Message - From: "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Alberto Tobias'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:36 PM Subject: RE: Debian Newbie Question on Network Config > /etc/network/interfaces > > or, alternatively you can install etherconf. > > 'apt-get install etherconf' > > this will lead you through a prompted setup. > > > Matt Thanks for the tip! However, it does noet appear to solve my issue. After reboot I still need to manually bring up the eth0 interface and configure it. An "ifconfig -a" only shows the loopback interface. After I do a "modprobe tulip" the eth0 interface appears as well and I only neede to assign it its IP address and gateway and everything works again. What can I do to make this automatic at boot time? Where can I find the error messages (if any) the system geenrates while booting when it fails to bring up the interface? I cannot see anything in /var/log/dmesg Thanks in advance, Alberto -- > > -Original Message- > From: Alberto Tobias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Debian Newbie Question on Network Config > > > Hi, > > I relatively new to LInux. The last couple of months I have been dabbling > with some distributions, but right now I am staying with Debian. > > I have however one question. I have troubles with my network card. I can get > it up and running ok, using the tulip drivers from scyld.org. I can > configure it, add the default routes etc etc. But I have to do this > everytime I boot the system, because I don't know where to add the > configuration so it is set up right when it boots. > > Where do I do this? Which startup scripts do I need to change? > > Thanks in advance, > Alberto > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple little basic config questions
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 at 21:53 GMT, Haines Brown penned: >> > I think this may be is a debian question because user can start the >> > FileRunner file manager, but not root. When root tries, it gets the >> > error: >> > >> > Application can't initialize because it lacks display name and no >> > $DISPLAY environment variable. >> >> You're probably using 'su -' to get to root, right? > > Yes, you are quite right. > >> explicitly set your display to whatever it's normally set to for your >> users in root's .bashrc or .profile. > > I tried: "set DISPLAY teufel:0.0; export DISPLAY" /root/.profile, but > it. My sytax probably wrong. Can I substitute "localhost" here for > "teufel"? > > Haines > If you're logged in as a normal user, what does env | grep DISPLAY show you? -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. This > is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? No, but perhaps Hotmail took heed of suggestions to reject viruses at SMTP time. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oENHUzgNqloQMwcRAoZkAKDdoLgAwZIF2oJFaDm2+dXXP7UBWQCbBF89 p+KvtJtW29muhPxWSbEookk= =QKBS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] can't set hdparm -d1 and correct kernel config
- Original Message - From: "Jerome BENOIT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Re: can't set hdparm -d1 and correct kernel config > Finally, did it work ? > > Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Hi, > > i have 2 matrox hd disks and whenever i want to set the dma to 1 i > get this error: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted > The first is a 40 Gb Matrox IDE and the second a 120 GB Matrox IDE. > They are recent disks (< 1 year). My motherboard is abit b6, intel > 440bx chipset PIIX4 IDE. lspci reports that it's a intel 440bx > chipset (82443 BX/ 82371 EB) > > A while ago i recompiled the kernel for LVM support and i think i > might have excluded something that the kernel needs to set the dma. > What kernel options do i need to have set in order to allow dma=1? > > Thanks. > Benedict > >>> > >Use this command to see what kernel options there are and what is > >selected in your kernel config file located in /boot. > >'cat /boot/config- |grep DMA' > >- -- > >Greg Madden > > >>>I did this and the only options that were set are > >>>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y > >>>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y > >>>All the others are specified as "is not set" > >>>So it seems as if dma is allowed here. > >> > >>Try also to grep for BLK_DEV. I think, in your case, it would be > >>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX. > > > > > > Ha! that might be it! cat /boot/config |grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX > > returns # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX is not set > > > > I will try to recompile a new kernel with this option set. > > > > Thanks > > Benedict I just recompiled a new kernel with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX set. Now the DMA works like a charm. Tripled my speed. Thanks to Ron Johnson for the suggestions! Regards, Benedict Verheyen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Has SWEN finally died?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:23:51 -0500, "Marc Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list. > This is my fourth post in 2 days. So far, no spam, including no SWEN. > Could we > finally be seein the end of this mess? ..nah, I still see around 5/h, its been at that level the last 3 weeks. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libsdl-gfx1.2 upgrade from 2.0.8-1 to 2.0.9-1
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:28:38 +0100, Gabriele Persia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello all, > > I've noticed that upgrading libsdl-gxf has a bad "side-effect": > Frozen-Bubble stop working! ;-( ..I the 2 time 100 level tour vet, chews: Excellent!!! What a _fucking_ waste of time. Good thing it has been ported to Wintendo! ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cursor dust
Hi ! I restarted the X-window, of course. I tried to write Option "HWCursor" "off" into the XF86Config-4 file also, because this was in the documentation. And I reboot the PC several times after that. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]