Mountpoints - not taken from fstab !?

[Uwe Dippel]

I'm quite surprised to find this problem; if I remember well, I did this a
few times before with success:
 
On a quadruple-boot, I copied all partitions (copy&paste from 'mount')
 
/dev/hda12 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/hda11 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda13 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda16 on /home type ext3 (rw)
 
with knoppix to
 
/dev/hda6
/dev/hda3
/dev/hda7
/dev/hda8
 
Then I changed the fstab on hda6 to:
 
/dev/hda6   /   ext3errors=remount-ro   0   1
/dev/hda5   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda3   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda7   /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda8   /home   ext3defaults0   2
 
without problem.
 
But now, when I boot (grub),
 
GNU GRUB version 0.94

[...]

grub> root (hd0,2)
  filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1-686 ro root=/dev/hda6
  [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x1114cd]

grub> initrd /initrd.img-2.6.5-1-686
  [Linix-initrd @ 0x17aff000, 0x468000 bytes]

grub> boot

 
to my greatest surprise, it still boots and mounts the earlier partitions
(see above) !! with root=/dev/hda12 !!

I'm stumped !



What I've done so far:

$ dmesg | grep Kernel
Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda6 (so this looks good !)

$ mount
/dev/hda12 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) (this doesn't look okay)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[...]

# cd /mnt/
debian:/mnt# mount /dev/hda6 homeRH/
debian:/mnt# cat homeRH/etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
/dev/hda6   /   ext3errors=remount-ro   0   1
/dev/hda5   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0   0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hda3   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hda7   /usrext3defaults0   2
[...]

The kernel receives root=/dev/hda6; 
hda6 contains the mount point for '/' to be /dev/hda6 in its /etc/fstab.
But what it mounts to '/' is /dev/hda12 !!

So where does it get its mountpoints if not from /etc/fstab ??

I could only vaguely guess that initrd is the culprit here.
But is initrd supposed to overrule fstab ?
Should not the Kernel command line, as passed correctly by grub, point to
a respective fstab for the mount points ?

Okay, did another test: 

[...]

grub> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1-686 ro 
  [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x1114cd]

[...]

This works just as well ! (I left out the 'root' definition.)
In my opinion, it ought to panic; but no, it boots nicely and mounts hda12
as '/' and so on ... !


Any help will be appreciated !


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No access but root

[Pritpal Dhaliwal]

I recently installed Debian 3.0r2 on  586 system..

recently, I don't know why.. only root can login through ssh..

I am using proftpd, for ftp but that means i can't login as root with 
ftp.. or any other account..

I am also using webmin.. and created a user using webmin.. using 
virtualmin 1.4.0 to be exact...

I don't know why this is happening.. I have upgradated and upgraded the 
system.. using apt-get

I am also seeking some help on linuxforum, I explained my problem there 
also.. but people do not seem to be able to pinpoint to why this is 
happening.. (http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71259)

after logging in as root, I did this sample run to show other weird 
issues I am having ..
checkout this session...

---
mail:/usr/local/bin# whoami
root
mail:/usr/local/bin# su paul
bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permission denied
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ su test
Password:
bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permission denied
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ su paul
Password:
bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permission denied
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ su angel
Password:
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ su paul
Password:
bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permission denied
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ ls
resinctl sa-learn spamassassin spamc spamd
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin$ cd
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pwd
/home/paul
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls
mbox
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ whoami
whoami: cannot find username for UID 1000
I have no [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
TIA for your help,
Paul


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Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:03:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Adam Aube wrote:
> > Unfortunately, blacklisting is a much more realistic solution than
> > wholesale user education, so yes, blacklisting such providers is
> > probably the only workable solution. 
> 
> Unfortunately the reality is unless the blacklisted each other it 
> wouldn't work.  If we blacklist them and mail fails to get through what's 
> the reaction of their users?  "Fix your problem, our ISP is fine because 
> it's bigger."

Take a look at RIMA-TDE.  That's the Spanish telecom, a grossly
mismanaged national ISP.

As with Wanadoo (another massive and massivly mismanaged major EU ISP),
RIMA-TDE has developed a reputation for doing nothing (other than
bouncing) abuse requests.

It's now got the choice to make between cleaning up its own act or
having a large number of peering nets clean up its act for it.  By
dropping all traffic.

IDP has worked in the past.  It still works.


Peace.

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Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:52:31PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > It reports spam to the usual suspects.  Starting with postmaster/abuse
> > addresses, if known.  Then IP / domain WHOIS contacts, abuse.net
> > contacts, and the like.  You can create a list of undeliverable contacts
> > not to try (I post same to news.admin.net-abuse.email, aka NANAE).  It
> > posts a notice with information on the offending IP to
> > news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, which may be of use to various parties.
> >
> > http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Download/SpamTools.tar.gz
> 
> Do you intend to package?

Not before it does significantly better at handling edge conditions than
it currently does.

I developed this for my own personal use.  I'm interested in feedback
and/or fixes.  I'd consider this about 0.2 level software.  It mostly
works to do a basic task.  It needs babysitting.  It can be used
maliciously.  It makes my initial task easier.

I wouldn't consider packaging for broader distribution util it:

  - Runs without babysitting.

  - Intelligently avoids mailing list LARTs.

  - Has better back-end response datagathering capabilities (bounces).

  - Has some rudimentary abuse avoidance mitigation.
  
  - Has integrated logging (currently it's based on piping stdout to an
arbitrary file).

  - Is generalized for mailbox format (which probably requires rewriting
in A Real Language).

I'd also like it to have better tools for RFC-Ignorant submissions for
postmaster / abuse / whois / ipwhois categories.


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Getting apt-get to accept defaults automatically

[Bruce]

Generally speaking, if I do an apt-get upgrade, I want apt-get to just
accept the defaults for any prompts (the equivalent of just pressing
). I have mostly just hit  myselfmanually, but it seems
there must be a way to tell apt-get not to bother prompting me (because I
wouldn't know what to choose in most cases anyway), and just choose the
default.

I had a look at the man page, and it seems this is invoked using the -q=x
switch, described as follows:

"-q, --quietQuiet; produces output suitable for logging, omitting progress
indicators. More q's will produce more quiet up to a maximum of 2. You can
also use -q=# to set the quiet level, overriding the configuration file.
Note that quiet level 2 implies -y, you should never use -qq without a
no-action modifier such as -d, --print-uris or -s as APT may decided to do
something you did not expect. Configuration Item: quiet."

So, -q=2 will answer "y" to all questions, which is often not the
"default" answer when prompted (the default for the vast majority of
questions I am asked during an apt-get upgrade is, in fact, "N", i.e.,
when asked whether I want to replace the existing configuration file with
the package maintainers version, the default is "No".).

The man page doesn't say what happens if I use "-q=0" or "-q=1". The HOWTO
doesn't address the question at all.

Will either of these just accept the default response? Which? Is this in
the documentation somewhere and I just missed it? Or is this something
that can be set in a configuration file somewhere? If so, which?

Thanks, B


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Re: Formatting a partition for Windows XP

[John L Fjellstad]

Tom Kuiper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The question is how? "mkfs -t hpfs" or "mkfs -t smb"?
> If I use hpfs, will it format correctly?  Will samba be able to export it?
> Will it be writable by a Windows client connected to the samba server?

It really doesn't matter what filesystem you make on the Linux box. As
long as Linux can read it, samba will be able to export it, and
depending on the access permissions, Windows client will be able to
write to it.

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Re: HP all in one?

[Joost De Cock]

On Thursday 06 May 2004 16:11, Robert L. Harris shoved this in my mailbox:
> Anyone know if one of these will work decently as a printer or scanner
> for Linux?  (HP 1210 All in one)

Check out linuxprinting.org:
http://linuxprinting.org/
for this kind of information. They have a searchable database of models and 
how well they work under linux.  You'll also find the driver to use, user 
info etc. Good stuff!

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Re: HELP! - My linux server won't boot anymore

[Joost De Cock]

On Friday 07 May 2004 01:55, Daniel F Garcia shoved this in my mailbox:
[...]
> Things are not looking good.
>
> I ran up KNOPPIX
> I unlinked my vmlinuz and initrd.img files and re-linked then to the old
> kernel 2.4.25-1-686
>
> Rebooted
> Still get the same problem
>
> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
> kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)

You _did_ remember tot run lilo after you made those changes did you?
Just changing the configuration file doesn't do the trick. You need to run 
lilo to enforce the changes.
That's why you have to be in the chroot jail, to make sure your running the 
lilo on your disk, and not the lilo on your knoppix cd.

If you forgot to run lilo, just use knoppix again, check if all is ok in 
lilo.conf and punch in the 4 magic characters:

lilo

that should do it :)

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Re: Can't see Raid 1 Device

[mike]

> Hi,
> 
> I have a P4P800 Asus board with the Via onboard Raid controller.
> I have 2 IDE ATA100 (120 G)drives plugged in. Both are masters
> on seperate channels.
> I configured the RAID bios to a RAID 1 setup. (mirroring)
> The raid array is setup.
> 
> Now I'm kinda lost after this part.

To answer my own post, it looks like a via driver for
that particular IDE controller and RAID controller are not
quite ready in the linux world.
Here's an old thread from a via forum.

http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=41397

I guess I'll just slap my drives on the regular IDE channels and
use a Software Raid.

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Re: Limewire and Java runtime

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-05-05, Thomas G penned:
>
> Well I really miss having music since i have recently formatted my 180
> gig  HD ext3. Does anyone know a way go get the limewire package
> working without the java runtime packages that have been broken in
> unstable for some time now.

With the way RIAA has been playing hardball lately, that doesn't seem
like such a good idea.

Why don't you check out bt.etree.org and use bittorrent to download live
concerts performed by artists who encourage taping and trading?  Fewer
(possibly no) legal liabilities.

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Re: bootlog question

[Michael]

On Thursday 06 May 2004 07:31 pm, you wrote:
> On Thursday 06 May 2004 07:22 pm, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > On Thursday 06 May 2004 08:46 am, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > > > Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > > > debian testing with self-compiled kernel-2.6.5, would like to know
> > > > > how to resolve/eliminate some messages when booting.
> > > > > Will mention that the machine works fine; the eleven FATAL messages
> > > > > in a row began after updating hotplug;  also I specifically didn't
> > > > > enable pcmcia when I configured the kernel.
> > > > > Your help is appreciated.
> > > > > For example:
> > > >
> > > > <-- snip examples-->
> > > >
> > > > When you recompiled the kernel did you move the old
> > > > /lib/modules/2.6.5 direct to 2.6.5-old or whatever and make modules? 
> > > > If not, that may be causing your 'fatal errors'.
> > >
> > > Thank you Wayne!
> > > In order to keep my original post as brief as possible, I left out that
> > > previously I had been running a 2.6.3 kernel, so when I compiled the
> > > new 2.6.5, there was no need to mv /lib/modules/...
> > > I sure appreciate your response, I am still "digging" trying to figure
> > > this out, but have had zero luck thus far. I tried putting some things
> > > in /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail.
> > > Please feel free if you have any other ideas!
> > > Thanks again.
> >
> > OK, do you have any of those 'error' modules in /etc/modules?  Comment
> > them out if you do.
> >
> > I did a 2.6.5 kernel last week but didn't run into any fatal error
> > problems.  Had some usb issues but that was all.  Upgraded this AM
> > and see that the kernel source has been upgraded for 2.6.5.  Have not
> > had time to do anything with it, yet.  If I run into anything when I
> > get time to compile it, I'll let you know.
> >
> > Wayne
> > --
> > All computers wait at the same speed.
> > ___
>
> Thanks again... yes I found ide-detect & ide-cd in /etc/modules.
> I appreciate it!

Finally, some progress...
dpkg-reconfigure hotplug
was able to elimiate that list of eleven FATAL messages.
Only a few to go.
Thanks again.


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Re: xserver-xfree86 fiasco!

[Kevin Mark]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:54:53PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Kevin Mark wrote:
> 
> >Hi list,
> >after a recent dist-upgrade, there was some kind of installation error
> >which I tried to fix. After various attempts, I made things worse and
> >now I can not install xserver-xfree86.
> >This is the installation messages:
> >--
> >apt-get install xserver-xfree86
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> >Errors were encountered while processing:
> >/var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
> >E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> > 
> >
> 
> I believe I'd start by removing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86* 
> and then trying again, just in the event that that file is corrupt.
> 
Hi Kent,
done! no luck.
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Kev


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Re: kernel upgrading basically ok now

[Thomas Adam]

 --- jack kinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HI
> 1. The ttyS0 error is still around. The full error msg is:
>  
> Loading the saved-state of the serial devices...
> modprobe: FATAL: error running install command for serial /dev/ttyS0: no
> such device.

Ensure that you have 8250 serial support in your kernel:

CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CONSOLE=y

> 2. Msg in syslog:
> No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
> There are several questions in Yahoo search on this but no answers.

You probably don't have "Loadable kernel module support" selected under
"General Options" from 'make menucongig'.

HTH,

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Re: mozilla-firefox & extensions

[Alexander Nordström]

On Friday, 7 May 2004 03:16, Matt Price wrote:

> anyonee lse having trouble installing extensions with mozilla-firefox
> 0.8-8 on Sid?  I keep trying to install mozex and it doesn't seem to
> actually install.  I have two other extensions working (Bookmarks
> Synchronizer and Session Saver) but they also seemed to install rather
> reluctantly (lots of extra "x has been installed" popup windows).
> Does this behaviour sound familiar to anyone?

Yes. Probably mostly a case of mispackaged extensions assuming everyone uses 
operating systems where everyone is root by tradition. Incidentally, the 
extensions install fine if you are root (which lets all users use the 
extensions). It's a known issue with Mozilla, but not all extension 
developers seem to be aware. Where I have been affected, I have contacted the 
extension developers to let them know of the issue, and some have at least 
added instructions on what modifications you need to make. Just be aware of 
the following issues:

a) Some extensions packaged on Windows require the permissions of the 
installed files to be fixed, or Firefox will not work at all when those 
permissions are installed.

b) apt-get upgrading Firefox will botch root-installed extensions. See 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=206097 for details.

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kernel upgrading basically ok now

[jack kinnon]

HI
 
The X server  and the syslog problems are fixed by setting "Unix domain socket' in the config menu. This is found by searching Yahoo. The debian search is pretty useless, always 'no match'.
 
The sytem can boot and come up with kde. A couple of doubts to clear.
 
1. The ttyS0 error is still around. The full error msg is:
 
Loading the saved-state of the serial devices...
modprobe: FATAL: error running install command for serial /dev/ttyS0: no such device.
 
This msg appears only on the screen, not in syslog or kern.log
 
2. Msg in syslog:
No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
There are several questions in Yahoo search on this but no answers.
 
I am using module-init-tools-3.0.
 
 
Would appreciate some answers.
 
Cheers
 
 
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Re: Dual Boot Windows Permissions For User

[Greg Madden]

On Thursday 06 May 2004 10:22 am, D Hoyem wrote:
> Hi All,
>   I  have a dual boot system (Windows Millennium/Testing) on my HP
> laptop.  I would like the user (me) to have access to the Windows
> folder.  During setup I mounted it as /Win_c.  When I do a ls -l it
> shows the owner as root and the group as root.  I have adduser
>  to root and that didn't work. I have tried to do chgrp and
> the error message is "Changing group of /Win_c  Operation not
> permitted".  My /etc/fstab looks like this /dev/hda2   /Win_c
> vfat  defaults  0  2
> I have changed it to
> /dev/hda2   /Win_c vfat   rw,user  0  0
> And that didn't do anything.
snip

Its the vfat filesystem, it doesn't support what you are trying to do. 
You can use 'umask' in your ~/fstab file to let set access for Debian 
users. i.e.
/dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbvfatumask=000,user,noauto   0   0

The umask=000 is a not necessarily the best way,(full access for 
everyone) you can use uid & gid. I set the pass to 0 so there would be 
not attempt at checking the vfat file system.
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Can't see Raid 1 Device

[mike]

Hi,

I have a P4P800 Asus board with the Via onboard Raid controller.
I have 2 IDE ATA100 (120 G)drives plugged in. Both are masters
on seperate channels.
I configured the RAID bios to a RAID 1 setup. (mirroring)
The raid array is setup.

Now I'm kinda lost after this part.
I'm running a woody server and have used modconf
to add in raid1 and ataraid.

#cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
read_ahead not set
unused devices: 

How do I get my system to see the raid device?
I should have a 120 Gig drive somewhere that I can cfdisk and format
shouldn't I? 
My system is a scsi drive on /dev/sda and I have a regular IDE drive 
at /dev/hda but I don't see any other ide devices. 
In my regular BIOS setup, I see the hda IDE device but thats it.
but, in the RAID BIOS, I can see the 2 120 Gig drives, so I think they are 
jumpered and installed correctly.(I successfully created a Raid 1 array)

Any guidence from here is greatly appreciated. 
Thanks!!







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Re: xserver-xfree86 fiasco!

[Kent West]

Kevin Mark wrote:

Hi list,
after a recent dist-upgrade, there was some kind of installation error
which I tried to fix. After various attempts, I made things worse and
now I can not install xserver-xfree86.
This is the installation messages:
--
apt-get install xserver-xfree86
 



Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 

I believe I'd start by removing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86* 
and then trying again, just in the event that that file is corrupt.

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Re: bootlog question

[Michael]

On Thursday 06 May 2004 07:22 pm, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2004 08:46 am, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > > Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > > debian testing with self-compiled kernel-2.6.5, would like to know
> > > > how to resolve/eliminate some messages when booting.
> > > > Will mention that the machine works fine; the eleven FATAL messages
> > > > in a row began after updating hotplug;  also I specifically didn't
> > > > enable pcmcia when I configured the kernel.
> > > > Your help is appreciated.
> > > > For example:
> > >
> > > <-- snip examples-->
> > >
> > > When you recompiled the kernel did you move the old /lib/modules/2.6.5
> > > direct to 2.6.5-old or whatever and make modules?  If not, that may be
> > > causing your 'fatal errors'.
> >
> > Thank you Wayne!
> > In order to keep my original post as brief as possible, I left out that
> > previously I had been running a 2.6.3 kernel, so when I compiled the new
> > 2.6.5, there was no need to mv /lib/modules/...
> > I sure appreciate your response, I am still "digging" trying to figure
> > this out, but have had zero luck thus far. I tried putting some things in
> > /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail.
> > Please feel free if you have any other ideas!
> > Thanks again.
>
> OK, do you have any of those 'error' modules in /etc/modules?  Comment
> them out if you do.
>
> I did a 2.6.5 kernel last week but didn't run into any fatal error
> problems.  Had some usb issues but that was all.  Upgraded this AM
> and see that the kernel source has been upgraded for 2.6.5.  Have not
> had time to do anything with it, yet.  If I run into anything when I
> get time to compile it, I'll let you know.
>
> Wayne
> --
> All computers wait at the same speed.
> ___

Thanks again... yes I found ide-detect & ide-cd in /etc/modules.
I appreciate it!


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Re: bootlog question

[Wayne Topa]

Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Thursday 06 May 2004 08:46 am, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > debian testing with self-compiled kernel-2.6.5, would like to know how to
> > > resolve/eliminate some messages when booting.
> > > Will mention that the machine works fine; the eleven FATAL messages in a
> > > row began after updating hotplug;  also I specifically didn't enable
> > > pcmcia when I configured the kernel.
> > > Your help is appreciated.
> > > For example:
> >
> > <-- snip examples-->
> >
> > When you recompiled the kernel did you move the old /lib/modules/2.6.5
> > direct to 2.6.5-old or whatever and make modules?  If not, that may be
> > causing your 'fatal errors'.
> >
> 
> Thank you Wayne!
> In order to keep my original post as brief as possible, I left out that 
> previously I had been running a 2.6.3 kernel, so when I compiled the new 
> 2.6.5, there was no need to mv /lib/modules/...
> I sure appreciate your response, I am still "digging" trying to figure this 
> out, but have had zero luck thus far. I tried putting some things 
> in /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail.
> Please feel free if you have any other ideas!
> Thanks again.
> 

OK, do you have any of those 'error' modules in /etc/modules?  Comment
them out if you do.

I did a 2.6.5 kernel last week but didn't run into any fatal error
problems.  Had some usb issues but that was all.  Upgraded this AM
and see that the kernel source has been upgraded for 2.6.5.  Have not
had time to do anything with it, yet.  If I run into anything when I
get time to compile it, I'll let you know.

Wayne
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Re: traceroute Re: lynx and google.com

[William Ballard]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 06:17:35PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> you're probably trying to go thru a slow firewall or heavily loaded
> network

where simultaneous different browsers work?


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Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:56AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:18:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> Spammer...
> >
> > *plonk*
> 
> And once again you show the maturity of a spoiled six year old on an
> internationally distributed mailing list.  Hopefully potential future
> employers see what kind of pointless hissy-fits you're prone to.

On the evidence of this thread you really don't have anything to preach
about, I'm afraid.

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Re: Mutt's internal pager and accented characters

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:11:11PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 11:53:33AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I find it simplest by far to run mutt in a UTF-8 locale, at which point
> > it can deal with accented characters from a wide range of languages
> > without me having to intervene further. You'll need a terminal emulator
> > that can cope (I have personal experience of pterm and uxterm) and a
> > suitable font (your terminal emulator may or may not sort this out for
> > you; with pterm it's easiest to pick a font).
> 
> Regardless of whether I'm using pterm or Eterm switching to UTF-8  does
> not solve any problems. In fact it CREATES more problems! Setting mutt to:
>   set charset="utf-8"
> gives me a capital A with a ~ on top instead of correctly mapping as lower
> case a with an accent grave on top.

I don't use 'set charset'; I simply make sure that the terminal is
running in UTF-8 mode and that my locale is UTF-8. mutt seems to just
work at that point.

> > > according to /usr/share/doc/mutt/README.Debian
>   
> > > But I've tried setting the LC_CTYPE="[EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15" to no avail.
> > 
> > That's not a legal value for LC_CTYPE, incidentally;
> > LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.ISO-8859-15 would be better, or (if you take my approach)
> > LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 for Unicode.
> 
> Where would I get legal values for LC_CTYPE? The instructions said to read
> my /etc/locale.gen file and what I have is definitely listed there.
> fr_CA ISO-8859-1
> fr_CA.UTF-8 UTF-8
> fr_FR ISO-8859-1
> fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] UTF-8
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISO-8859-15

The format of that file is  . Entries in the left-hand
column should be legal LC_CTYPE values, although they're not the only
possible values.

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Re: Laptop strategy: RH7 -> Woody

[Clive Menzies]

On (06/05/04 10:19), Mark Gillingham wrote:
> I like the way my old RH7.3 disc is able to identify SUB and NIC on AST 
> Ascentia M Series laptops that I have in our dust bin. Of course I want 
> the ease of Debian's package management too. Is it a good strategy to 
> install a base system using my RH7.3 disc and then switch to Debian? 
> Should I do more than load apt-get? What problems will I encounter?
Suggest that you look at:

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

This is the beta testing (sarge) installer that provides H/W detection.

Installing Debian over a Red Hat base will keep you awake nights ;)  The
file structure is different for a start.

Regards

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Re: traceroute Re: lynx and google.com

[Clive Menzies]

On (06/05/04 18:17), Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya 
> 
> On Fri, 7 May 2004, Clive Menzies wrote:
> 
> > Nope, sid still gives "Bad Request".  
> > 
> > However, debian.org works fine .. curious because
> > http://www.google.com definitely won't work on my sid box.  One of
> > life's little mysteries ;)
> 
> what is the results of traceroute and its response times
>   traceroute  one.that.works.com
>   traceroute  one.that.fails.com
> 
> you're probably trying to go thru a slow firewall or heavily loaded
> network
Hi Alvin

On sid (one.that.fails.com) I get:

Tracing the path to www.google.com (216.239.59.99) on TCP port 80 (www),
30 hops max
 1  * * *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *
 12  216.239.59.99 (216.239.59.99) [open]  46.877 ms  48.029 ms
 50.755 ms
 
Whilst on woody (one.that.works.com) I get:

Tracing the path to www.google.com (216.239.59.99) on TCP port 80 (www),
30 hops max
 1  * * *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *
 12  www.google.com (216.239.59.99) [open]  48.763 ms  49.954 ms

 I don't know what this means ;)

 Regards

 Clive

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traceroute Re: lynx and google.com

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya 

On Fri, 7 May 2004, Clive Menzies wrote:

> Nope, sid still gives "Bad Request".  
> 
> However, debian.org works fine .. curious because
> http://www.google.com definitely won't work on my sid box.  One of
> life's little mysteries ;)

what is the results of traceroute and its response times
traceroute  one.that.works.com
traceroute  one.that.fails.com

you're probably trying to go thru a slow firewall or heavily loaded
network

c ya
alvin


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Re: bootlog question

[Michael]

On Thursday 06 May 2004 08:46 am, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Michael([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > debian testing with self-compiled kernel-2.6.5, would like to know how to
> > resolve/eliminate some messages when booting.
> > Will mention that the machine works fine; the eleven FATAL messages in a
> > row began after updating hotplug;  also I specifically didn't enable
> > pcmcia when I configured the kernel.
> > Your help is appreciated.
> > For example:
>
> <-- snip examples-->
>
> When you recompiled the kernel did you move the old /lib/modules/2.6.5
> direct to 2.6.5-old or whatever and make modules?  If not, that may be
> causing your 'fatal errors'.
>
> Wayne
> --
> Any program that runs right is obsolete.
> ___


Thank you Wayne!
In order to keep my original post as brief as possible, I left out that 
previously I had been running a 2.6.3 kernel, so when I compiled the new 
2.6.5, there was no need to mv /lib/modules/...
I sure appreciate your response, I am still "digging" trying to figure this 
out, but have had zero luck thus far. I tried putting some things 
in /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail.
Please feel free if you have any other ideas!
Thanks again.


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Re: [OT Why GB English is different] Re: Mozilla firefox en-gb

[Marty Landman]

At 07:02 PM 5/6/2004, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

Since I don't mind the thread, the purpose of this comment is very
simple: Please remember in the future, if some go OT, do not
bitch at them. Be courteous.
Antonio, isn't your comment o/t? :)   I ain't being discourteous, am I?

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Re: lynx and google.com

[William Ballard]

On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:10:14AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (06/05/04 11:14), William Ballard wrote:
> > It could also be explained by the fact that you are getting different 
> > servers from the two different boxes.  Try "www.google.com" from the 
> > broken box and see if that works -- it did for me, for a few days, with 
> > no change to Lynx in the intervening time.
> Nope, sid still gives "Bad Request".  

Under what conditions could lynx stay the same and the same site stop 
working?  That's definitely what happened to me.

And all you have proved is you got the same Bad server from the pool 
both times.

It could still be sid/lynx but it started breaking while lynx didn't 
change.


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Re: lynx and google.com

[Clive Menzies]

On (06/05/04 11:14), William Ballard wrote:
> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 06:57:52PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (06/05/04 09:23), William Ballard wrote:
> > > Has anybody tried 'lynx google.com' lately?
> > > 
> > > You get HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request.  It only started happening about 2 
> > > weeks ago.
> > I presume you're running sid - it works fine on woody but my sid system
> > produces the same result - I guess lynx is the problem.  Perhaps you
> > should file a bug report.
> 
> FWIW, I downloaded Stable lynx, extracted it to my home directory, and 
> ran it from there and it was broken too.  I know that doesn't mean it's 
> still not something sid-related, but the only things lynx depends on are 
> libc6, zlib1g, and mime-support.
> 
> It could also be explained by the fact that you are getting different 
> servers from the two different boxes.  Try "www.google.com" from the 
> broken box and see if that works -- it did for me, for a few days, with 
> no change to Lynx in the intervening time.
Nope, sid still gives "Bad Request".  

However, debian.org works fine .. curious because
http://www.google.com definitely won't work on my sid box.  One of
life's little mysteries ;)

Regards

Clive

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Re: Debian as a router.

[Mal Beaton]

No worries. I now will review it and update. I have been slack.

I will post the url tonight or tomorrow morning.



messmate wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:14:05 +1000
Mal Beaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have a good howto for this if you are interested. I can post it
here However Mine is for adsl I have never used cable modem I assume
it can be set up in bridged mode as well
H. S. wrote:

Apparently, _Cordazer Calvin Broadus_, on 05/05/04 19:10,typed:


Greetings,
  Instead of buying a router I thought that I would
hook up my PC that has two NICs as a router. Basically what I have
below is a rough illustration of
what this looks like.  I am trying to sift through the
networking howtos from www.tldp.org but that is slow
going.  Has somone set this up?  Any good
walkthroughs?
[ISP][Cable MODEM]-[My PC eth0]
  [My PC eth1]--[My iMac]
I am running:
[ISP]--[ADSL modem]-->[PC-R eth0][PC-R eth0]--Sw--->[PC Win98]
   |
   >[PC Sid]
(where Sw = switch, PC-R = router PC running Sarge)
Once you have the two NICs recognized in your router computer, you
are > ready to do NAT and masquarading.

It is vital that you have a firewall script set up on your router. 
Iptables is the way to go. There are numerous iptables how-tos on
the > internet. E.g.:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/networking/homegateway.html

http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway
.html> 

And to let the computers on your internal home network use internet
connection, you must turn masquarading on in your router, as
mentioned > in the above pages. (The only problme I see is if you do
not have > iptables modules compiled in your kernel, in which case
you need to > compile your kernel with netfilter and IPtables
support(Networking > options).)
Go through those pages and feel free to ask if you have any
questions. > Also, main files you will want to be aware about are:

/etc/network/interfaces/
/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/hosts
and your firewall script(s)
GL,
->HS


I'm interrested to and have a dsl conncetion.
If you can post it.
Thanks
mess-mate



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Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

[Adam Aube]

Steve Lamb wrote:

> Adam Aube wrote:
>> Unfortunately, blacklisting is a much more realistic solution than
>> wholesale user education, so yes, blacklisting such providers is probably
>> the only workable solution.
> 
> Unfortunately the reality is unless the blacklisted each other it
> wouldn't work.  If we blacklist them and mail fails to get through what's
> the reaction of their users?  "Fix your problem, our ISP is fine because
> it's bigger."

You snipped an important part of my message:

"If several large sites wholesale blacklisted major broadband providers"

Emphasis on "large" - it would take several sites approaching the size of
AOL or MSN to make a difference.

Adam


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Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:56AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:18:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Whilst generally I wouldn't resort to flamage, your statement above
> >> > is of such great ignorance that you have to be a fool to make it.
> >> 
> >> Spammer...
> >
> > *plonk*
> 
> And once again you show the maturity of a spoiled six year old on an
> internationally distributed mailing list.  Hopefully potential future
> employers see what kind of pointless hissy-fits you're prone to.

Why don't you demonstrate your vastly superior maturity by taking this
private?

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Re: sid or sarge where I am

[Kevin Mark]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 04:36:13PM +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> This is an elementary question and I am sorry I did not find it in the
> documentation:
> 
> I started with Knoppix 3.3 (woody) and made various time
> apt-get upgrade
> (including once apt-get -t unstable install xemacs)
> 
> But right now, I am not sure whether I am on unstable or testing.
> 
> BTW could I go back to woody
> like 
> apt-get -t woody or the like?
> 
> Is there any specific documentation about changing between distributions.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Uwe Brauer
Hi Uwe,
at current, Knoppix is a mix of testing and unstable. But you can edit
apt configs in /etc/apt/* to set your desired distro. You can also use
apt-get dist-upgrade to have all you stuff upgraded to one distro,
unstable. It is difficult to downgrade to stable and will in most
attempts lead to breakage. Most people will just reinstall if they want
to downgrade and just do a 'dpkg --get-selections' to get a list of what
they want to install.
-Kev
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Re: Mplayer reinstall????

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Hi,

Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
> I'm trying to reinstall mplayer but the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, input.conf 
> and menu.conf will not install? After I do reinstall with kpackage I look at 

did you remove them manually? removal of conffiles are preserved by
dpkg which _does_ make sense.

> Can someone help me with this?

dpkg -i --force-confmiss blah.deb

Grüße/Regards,

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Mplayer reinstall????

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Hi all,

I'm trying to reinstall mplayer but the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, input.conf 
and menu.conf will not install? After I do reinstall with kpackage I look at 
the "file list" and these three files have a red X in front of them? The 
files get skiped during the reinstall?? How do I get these files to install 
again?

Can someone help me with this?

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What's creating X-X-Sender header?

[Patrick Wiseman]

My emails from a 'testing' machine include the following header:

X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm 'pwiseman'; my machine's _local_ name is 'mycroft', but no-one in the
outside world needs to know that.  So what's telling them?  Exim?  How do
I stop it?

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RE: HELP! - My linux server won't boot anymore

[Daniel F Garcia]

>
>I had something similar once, (not really, since I screwed up my lilo
manually ;) ).
>
>Here's what I did, get Knoppix (knoppix.org) if you don't already have it.
>Boot from the knoppix disk, mount your root filesystem. Chroot into it.
Edit your lilo configuration. Get out of the chroot jail, 
>unmount the filesystem.
> Reboot and remove the knoppix disk.
> That's the short version, but you may want to look at this step-by-step
guide:
>
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/knoppix/knoppix_rescue.htm
>
>It's a breeze, and very good for your confidence ;)
>
>
>joost

Things are not looking good.

I ran up KNOPPIX
I unlinked my vmlinuz and initrd.img files and re-linked then to the old
kernel 2.4.25-1-686

Rebooted
Still get the same problem

RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)

I just  don't understand what is going on. 2.4.25 was working perfectly
before. Everything turned to shit when I installed 2.6.5.

Daniel.



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Re: HELP! - My linux server won't boot anymore

[Jerome R. Acks]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 04:28:54PM +1000, Daniel F Garcia wrote:
> Last night I did an apt-get upgrade apache2 and that upgraded a bunch of
> things including the kernel. Now when I try and boot up I get the error
> message:
>  
> kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)
>  
> I did a search on google and there werelots of messages suggesting I edit my
> lilo.conf, but how do I do that If I cannot boot up ?
>  
> I have a boot disk that I made from rescue.bin and I also have a disk made
> with root.bin. When I boot up off the floppy and type "rescue
> root=/dev/hda1" I get the same error.
>  
> Is there anyway I can boot off the old kernel ?

1) It has been a while since I used lilo, but I recall it used to set a
symlink to the prior kernel of "linuxOLD".

2) A grub boot floppy would allow you to boot the old kernel.

3) A single floppy disk version of linux like tomsrtbt should allow you
to boot from the floppy and repair your system. You can download
tomsrtbt at http://www.toms.net/rb/. The FAQ has some instructions on
how to run lilo on your hard disk to fix your problem.

>  
> Daniel F Garcia
> Project manager
> 
>    
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nfslock

[Sarah Trefethen]

Hopefully a quick question!

I'm still learning my way around debian, I have a process that's trying
to put a lock on a file shared over an nfs mount, and not having any luck.
since there isn't a majic scrip called nfslock in my init.d I don't know
what to do!

Any hints?

Thanks,
Sarah


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Re: OT: manpage fun facts, or how much documentation *is* there anyway?

[hugo vanwoerkom]

Karsten M. Self wrote:
Background:  so I'm explaining to dear old Mom, I mean, dear Mom, how
there's tons of documentation available on GNU/Linux systems, that it's
typeset for the user on the fly through the man system, and how in fact
one of the first uses of UNIX[tm] by AT&T was as a document
editing/processing system through roff/nroff, and kin.
I've also long been a fan of 'man -Tps  | mpage -2 >
/tmp/.ps; gv -seascape /tmp/.ps' as well.  Try that if
you don't already know it.
So I'm shilling GNU/Linux to other people and wanted to make a point of
how much documentation there is available for it.  But getting a hard
page count is, well, hard.   So how about we just stick to manpages.
   - They all live in /usr/share/man/man* and /usr/X11/man/man*

   - We can get a pagecount by using standard text output and running
 through 'pr', which paginates the output (per your current
 papersize).  Grep for '  Page [0-9][0-9]* *$', and pipe through
 'tail -1' to get the total count for that manual.
   - Burn some cycles doing this on your system.

For my desktop, with 1631 packages installed (of 14,000+ in Debian
unstable), there are a total of 6,233 manpages, totalling 27,160 pages
of output, or about 4.3574 pages each.  apt-file tells me (after
unduplicating for multiple listings of packages among Debian releases)
that there are 60,013 manpages in the distribution total.  

Assuming the average pagecount holds, that's 261,500 pages of output.
My typical O'Reilly book runs about 500 pages, and I can fit about 30 to
a shelf, and five shelves to a bookcase, so that's about 3.5 bookcases
full of manual pages.
If you took this to Kinko's to be printed 2-up at 7c per page, that's
$9,152 dollars in docs, printing costs alone.  $18k if you've got lazy
eyes.
...and we're not counting info pages, READMEs, HOWTOs, RFCs, GNU/Linux
Gazette, and the other documentation available on the system.  Which I
may total up later on.
From my own set of 6k+ manpages, the ten longest are:

  Rank  Pages
    -
 1  1118   ethereal-filter(4)
 2  335
 3  214perltoc
 4  160
 5  151smb.conf
 6  148arm-palmos-gcc
 7  131
 8  118
 9  101
10  81 bash
Note:  Because of the way I computed totals, I have to go back manually
and find the manpage in question, and haven't done so for all of the
above.  Several of the unnamed pages are various gcc versions' manuals.
Disclaimers:  this is text-formatted output, 80 column line, US 'letter'
format.  Postscript and text manpage output differs (PS is about 75% of
the pagecount of text), and other local variances may occur.


There's been some grousing in GNU/Linux circles about the quality of
documentation, particularly for a few high profile projects.  But darned
if we ain't got that quantity thing down.
Peace.



Not bad Karsten. But Mom says it's my head, not the docs...

H.

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Re: [OT Why GB English is different] Re: Mozilla firefox en-gb

[Tom Furie]

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 06:38:46PM -0400, David P James wrote:

> But that's not a replacement for won't - it's a replacement of "am not", 
> as in "I am not going to do that". I can't think of a case where ain't 
> can replace won't/will not/shan't/shall not.
Which was my point since "I'm not going to do that" and "I won't do
that" mean the same thing, though I certainly didn't put it across
clearly. I probably still haven't.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: [OT Why GB English is different] Re: Mozilla firefox en-gb

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David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu 6 May 2004 15:41, William Ballard wrote:
>> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:20:21PM +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote:
>> >
>> > One way to avoid the confusion is by using the ISO format:
>> > /mm/dd. Also makes it very easy to sort by date.
>>
>> In America, one should not date checks that way, unless one wishes to
>> eventually to get checks returned by the bank.
>
> Are you serious? You'd think banks would prefer that format since it is 
> absolutely unambiguous and avoids confusion. If it's towards the end of 
> the month of May, how is the bank supposed to know if 05/06/04 is 
> referring to 6 May or 5 June (a post-dated cheque)?

Checks will bounce unless dated like 5/6/2004, 6 MAY 2004 or May 6, 2004.

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